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Wednesday, June 20, 2007

Biodiesel Get’s a $1 Gallon Subsidy!

Call me surprised:

While biodiesel producers are presently receiving a $1 a gallon federal tax subsidy, they think that even more aid would help them compete more effectively.

In testimony before Congress, John Hoffman, first vice president of the American Soybean Association (ASA-www.soygrowers.com), called for extension of the biodiesel tax incentive which has spurred growth in the US biodiesel industry and authorization of a Biodiesel Incentive Program under which US biodiesel producers would receive a commodity reimbursement from the Commodity Credit Corporation equal to subsidies paid to foreign biodiesel exporters.

He recalled that, “biodiesel provides a key new market for US soybean oil, which has historically been in surplus, resulting in lower soybean prices. Efforts to establish biodiesel as a viable renewable fuel received a major boost when Congress enacted the biodiesel tax incentive.”

For its part the National Biodiesel Board joined the ASA in seeking an additional federal subsidy of 43 cents per gallon in the 2007 farm bill. Some states are taking action, as well.

Two years ago the biodiesel industry was starting to take off.  You’d think with the retail price of diesel being $1/gallon more than it was then that they’d be making a strong profit without a subsidy.

Or maybe the subsidy’s about the government creating winners and losers not about getting a fledgling industry off of the ground.

The fact of the matter is if biodiesel was needed the market would supply it without a subsidy.  Government interference in the market makes some people winners while the rest of us pay more in taxes or in the products we buy. 

Comments

Whats actually going on is palm oil from Malaysia is imported to the US, has 1% fossil diesel added to make it biodiesel, getting the subsidy then imported duty free into the EU , undercutting anything they can produce.

WOOF on June 20, 2007 at 01:11 pm

Free marketers Hooey.

HAMBURG, May 22 (Reuters) - German biodiesel producer
Campa-Biodiesel said on Tuesday it was stopping production at
its 150,000 tonne a year plant, saying exports of subsidised
U.S. biodiesel to Europe was the reason.
“Exporters can offer their subsidised biodiesel at such a
significant price advantage over German producers that German
biodiesel refiners are no longer competitive,” said Campa CEO
Moritz Gaede.

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WOOF on June 20, 2007 at 01:15 pm

Glad we can export our subsidies.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on June 20, 2007 at 02:05 pm
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Even worse, we’re more or less taxing ourselves to pay for Malaysian farmers to clear-cut tropical rain forests and burn millenia-old peat bogs, producing the very carbon emissions that biodiesel is supposed to prevent.  Adding insult to injury, we’re shipping the fuel tens of thousands of miles with ships powered by real diesel fuel.

Robert Perry on June 20, 2007 at 02:32 pm

prob because those companies dont get the tax breaks big oil gets.


rasberry

Sparkie Arbuckle on June 21, 2007 at 03:31 pm

The whole meme about “tax breaks” is wrong.  We don’t owe the govt any particular amount in taxes, so a low tax rate isn’t a “break”, it’s just the right thing to do.  Duh.


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robert108 on June 21, 2007 at 03:33 pm

Besides, the whole “tax break” thing is a Big Lie.  It is actually a tax rate reduction, which results in increased revenues to the govt.  It’s a smaller chunk of a much larger number.  Have you checked out the amount of taxes the oil companies pay to the govt, Sparkie?  For the govt, the profit margin on taxes is 100%.  You should be so lucky.


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robert108 on June 21, 2007 at 03:36 pm

r108

The whole meme about “tax breaks” is wrong.

No, actually its not. This is why: Griping about subsidies on ethanol relies on a couple things. One, its bad because it artificially manipulates the market… leading to an unfair advantage that is not ‘efficient’ and cheap as possible. Two, the subsidy is tax money and the ethanol companies are private.
Now look at big oil. They pay about 7% less taxes than other companies do. It is selective, and essentially an artificial market advantage… leading to less efficiency and proper competition (in comparison to bio-diesel companies). Furthermore, this selective taxation is troubling. Big oil makes a lot of money, so cuts for them put burdens on the other companies. Its the same as wasting the money propping up bio-diesel companies. Different mechanisms; but same result, effect, reason to gripe.


rasberry

Sparkie Arbuckle on June 21, 2007 at 04:25 pm

They pay about 7% less taxes than other companies do. It is selective, and essentially an artificial market advantage…

They pay a lot more in total taxes, so, I repeat, the “tax cut” meme is a big lie.  The govt lowers the rate(which is arbitrary, as I have already said), in order to collect even more money, at 100% profit.  Taxes distort the market; the question is: How much?
The reason for this subsidy(which is a govt handout to a favored group) is to sustain a business that would otherwise go under.  Duh.  The oil industry won’t go under, because we want what they are selling.  Once again, elementary economics.  In the world of supply and demand, where is the demand for ethanol?  It’s a govt creation, and we are being made to pay for something we don’t want.  How “fair” is that?


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robert108 on June 21, 2007 at 04:33 pm

r108
sorry you don’t get it.


rasberry

Sparkie Arbuckle on June 21, 2007 at 07:28 pm
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Sparkie, unfortunately it’s you who doesn’t get it.  Those big tax “breaks” for oil companies are simply differing depreciation schedules tailored to the realities of oil exploration.  They are therefore related to the effort that companies put into finding and delivering petroleum products to us--entirely justifiable.

Now these subsidies for biodiesel have no such direct correlation--and are actually linked to supporting foreign sources of oil that cause huge environmental impacts in Malaysia and Indonesia, and possibly (if global warming theory holds, which I doubt) worldwide.  If you can’t see a difference, you must think that the “walk” signal is green and that the instruction of the White House Counsel is to be interpreted as law.

Robert Perry on June 22, 2007 at 07:24 am
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