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Bill Clinton Hints At McCain Being An Emotionally Unstable Ex-POW

Does Bill base this on his experience living with Hillary?

Trolls. It’s what’s for breakfast!
And then I eat their lunch.

Most dishonest headline in SayAnything history? It’s certainly in the running.

I think the headline is accurate.  In fact, it says “hints”, and Clinton was doing more than that.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Todd,

You obviously haven’t read many of “blackwater"boob or w[h]atashi[t]wa[d]’s “contributions.”

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Most dishonest headline in SayAnything history? It’s certainly in the running.

Dishonesty is apparently in the eye of the beholder.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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I think the headline was honest. Bill Clinton seems to be hurting the Dems more than he’s helping.

Dishonesty is apparently in the eye of the beholder.

On this site, I couldn’t agree more. Geez does the term liar sure get thrown around the comment sections a lot. I actually think you’re one of the most honest bloggers, right or left, that I’ve come across. You take a lot of shit around here and definitely proved you have thick skin. If I’m ever being an ass or a pedant towards you, I apologize ahead of time. And feel free to call me out on it. But thanks for living up to the blog’s namesake. A lot of other places become echo chambers from all the dissenters being banned. Alright, I’m done brown nosing.

Thanks Ken.  I’ll be honest in saying that I haven’t read a lot of your comments, but you haven’t struck me as much of a jerk.

And the term “liar” does get thrown around too much.  R108 is the worst offender, I think, but the liberals who insist that Bush “lied” about the war - instead of just relying on faulty intelligence - are just as bad.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

I’ll be honest in saying that I haven’t read a lot of your comments, but you haven’t struck me as much of a jerk.

I’ve actually been reading your blog since 2004, but only recently have decided to start commenting. Next step is setting up a reader blog. I’m usually not a jerk until someone deserves it, and even then I’m quite forgiving. That doesn’t mean I don’t ever have bad days and sometimes say some dick things that aren’t deserved.

If I point out a mistake you made, I’ll do it in a polite manner without the knee-jerk-flying-off-the-cuff reaction that some have. I understand that you’re extremely busy with outside responsibilities so its only natural for you to have an honest mistake every now and then.

And the term “liar” does get thrown around too much.  R108 is the worst offender, I think, but the liberals who insist that Bush “lied” about the war - instead of just relying on faulty intelligence - are just as bad.

I agree with you 100%. Just goes to show that both sides have their share of assholes.

If I’m ever being an ass or a pedant towards you, I apologize ahead of time. And feel free to call me out on it.

Where’s my apology?  You pull that crap on me all the time.  I guess it’s purely personal with you, then.

Rob: I use the term “liar” for those who continually lie, and who, when called on their errors, lie to deny it.  Since there is so much lying from a certain element here, I’m kept pretty busy.  If the liars would clean up their act, I wouldn’t have to identify them so much.  It’s a cause and effect thing.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Just goes to show that both sides have their share of assholes.

Especially the ones who tell lying smear stories, and who post lying smear photos, and then claim it was “a joke”.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Where’s my apology?  You pull that crap on me all the time.  I guess it’s purely personal with you, then.

You’re not the owner of this blog. When I’m in someone else’s house, I always try to respect them, even if they aren’t respectful of me (not that I’m saying Rob is disrespectful or anything). If I’m being an ass toward Rob, he can ban me from this site. But he wouldn’t do that, so as courtesy to him, I won’t take advantage of that fact.

Especially the ones who tell lying smear stories, and who post lying smear photos, and then claim it was “a joke”.

Boo hoo! Can’t take a joke, not my problem. To everyone on that the thread what I posted was quite clearly a joke. There is no way that anyone would believe that those pictures were actually of you. Especially given the fact that the one of the officer with the baton was a cartoon drawing. There’s a reason why even those on this site who agree with your ideas think you’re a huge dick.

Rob: I use the term “liar” for those who continually lie, and who, when called on their errors, lie to deny it.  Since there is so much lying from a certain element here, I’m kept pretty busy.  If the liars would clean up their act, I wouldn’t have to identify them so much.  It’s a cause and effect thing.

You’ve called pretty much everyone here a liar at one point or another. You’re a hell of a debater, and I’d give you a 90-95% accuracy rating (probably the highest of anyone here), but you tend to impugn the motives of pretty much anyone who disagrees with you at any given point. Even if it’s completely innocent...or if it’s an opinion based thing.

Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

robert108,

If the liars would clean up their act, I wouldn’t have to identify them so much.  It’s a cause and effect thing.

A quote, that seems Al wrote just for you.

“Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.” ~Albert Einstein

robert108,

Especially the ones who tell lying smear stories, and who post lying smear photos, and then claim it was “a joke”.

Bawhahaha. You are such a tight ass. Lighten up old man.

robert108,

Where’s my apology?  You pull that crap on me all the time.

Robert runs over to his mother with tears freely falling from his face, “Mommy! Mommy! Tell Ken to apologize to me! He’s being a meanie.” His mother’s frustration bubbles to the surface exposing the past times when Robert has forgot his backbone at home. “Robert!” she says in a harsh tone, “YOU LIE! I am not your mother. My children are men, not crying boys.”

You call people liers just for disagreing with you.
Everybody left and right see the problem but you.
You view yourself as a keeper of the truth, or a caped crusader in defence of what you perceive as truth. I have told you before. A lot of people interpret things in a different way based on their life expieriences or political views. Or maybe it is their opinion. Does not mean they are out there to deceive you and others.

Robert runs over to his mother with tears freely falling from his face, “Mommy! Mommy! Tell Ken to apologize to me! He’s being a meanie.” His mother’s frustration bubbles to the surface exposing the past times when Robert has forgot his backbone at home. “Robert!” she says in a harsh tone, “YOU LIE! I am not your mother. My children are men, not crying boys.”

Careful, Nunez! R108 doesn’t understand the terms metaphor or abstraction. You’re setting yourself up for a tantrum. “You LIAR! That story never happened! You lying leftie troll liars always resort to lying personal attack and lying smears in the absence of a logical and rational argument! I’m sure if you had an argument, you would have presented it by now. Did I mention you’re a liar?!?

Careful, Nunez! R108 doesn’t understand the terms metaphor or abstraction.

You lie again, Ken; I understand them quite well, which is why I know none of your lying smears fit either qualification, nor have they been “jokes”.  Both of you attack trolls got busted, and now you are escalating your lies to try to cover your lying asses.
Won’t work.

BTW, asshole, my mother is dead.  Thanks for providing another example of your lack of integrity.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

You call people liers just for disagreing with you.

Another lie(and misspelling) from you.  When you lie, I call it a lie; when you constantantly lie, I call you a liar; when you are merely ignorant or mistaken, I call you ignorant or mistaken.

If you stop lying, I’ll stop calling you on it.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Nunez: I got it; your lying fantasies are projections of what is inside you; they have nothing whatsoever to do with me.  You’re making it up out of your own database.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

You’ve called pretty much everyone here a liar at one point or another.

Only if they lied; and your “pretty much everyone here” is false.

You’re a hell of a debater, and I’d give you a 90-95% accuracy rating (probably the highest of anyone here), but you tend to impugn the motives of pretty much anyone who disagrees with you at any given point.

Again, only when they lie.  If you really consider that my accuracy “rating” is 90-95%, that conflicts with your other statements, doesn’t it?  Think about it.
I repeat: The first falsehood could simply be ignorance or misinformation, but after being given the right information, further falsehoods are evidence of an intent to deceive, especially when it is done to protect the wounded ego of the ignorant one.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

You’re not the owner of this blog.

What does that have to do with the truth?  So, with you it’s all personal and political, I guess.  You smear another commenter, and that’s OK, but you are apologetic for smearing the blog owner.  That’s hypocrisy.
Your subsequent lying smears directed at me should remove any doubt about your bullshit about “joking”.
You meant to make a false and vicious attack.  Your words and pictures convict you.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

God have mercy on you robert108.

robert108,

Nunez: I got it; your lying fantasies are projections of what is inside you; they have nothing whatsoever to do with me. 

I’ve noticed since you’ve posted in the readers section about argumentation which I observed a ‘stench of projection bias,’ you have begun to use ‘projection’ in refutation now. Who says you can’t learn? Their a bunch of liars!

Nunez: I learned about projection before you got out of training pants, so don’t puff yourself up so much. It doesn’t change the fact that your sick fantasies are your own creation, pulled from your own database.  I’m really sorry that Ashley rejected you and your mom called you on your sniveling, but life can be tough for someone like you.

e: God would bless you, if you didn’t violate the Ninth Commandment so often.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

What does that have to do with the truth?

Absolutely nothing, but that’s irrelevant and a nonsensical question. You asked why I would be apologetic for being an ass to Rob but not you and I gave you that answer.

So, with you it’s all personal and political, I guess.

Not at all. But that could be said about you.

You smear another commenter, and that’s OK, but you are apologetic for smearing the blog owner. 

I never said anything about smearing Rob. I simply said I apologized if I were to be an ass toward him in the future. Being an ass doesn’t imply that I would smear him. Again you lie and mischaracterize what I said!

Your subsequent lying smears directed at me should remove any doubt about your bullshit about “joking”.
You meant to make a false and vicious attack.  Your words and pictures convict you.

IMO I didn’t smear you so I have no reason to apologize. You may feel otherwise, but that has no effect on my opinion. I may have been an ass toward you, but that was in response to your asshat-ery.

But that could be said about you.

It could be, but it would be a false statement.

Being an ass doesn’t imply that I would smear him.

Does it say that you wouldn’t smear him?  How does admitting to be an ass rule out your smearing him, or anyone else?  That was my point, btw.  I notice that you again resort to parsing and nitpicking to distract from the truth here.

IMO I didn’t smear you so I have no reason to apologize.

Of course you did, and you aren’t man enough to admit it; furthermore, you tried to cover your cowardly ass by smearing me twice more.  Your bullshit justification is noted.  If I operated at your level, I would use your smears to justify smearing you by telling lies about you and by posting pictures that I claim represent you.  Of course, I’m not dishonest, so I won’t do anything like that at all.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

robert108,

Nunez: I learned about projection before you got out of training pants,

This must be why you miss used the term following my first use of it on your argumentation post.

Starting with pp’s projection of what “moderate” means, like referring to govt-imposed rationing of energy as a “moderate policy”.

Projection is when one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others. Not a person’s definition of ‘moderate.’ Ohh, you’re a liar.

IMO I didn’t smear you so I have no reason to apologize. You may feel otherwise, but that has no effect on my opinion.

You smeared me by first, stating that I was a cop who beat “hippies” at Woodstock(which is untrue), which included a picture which you said was of me doing that.
Then, you flip-flopped and stated I was a drug dealer, and showed a picture of someone who you claimed was me, selling drugs, which is also untrue.
Finally, you described me as working for “a music company"(which is also untrue), with a picture of someone who wasn’t me, and doesn’t even resemble me.

The second two came after I informed you that the first thing you said about me was entirely false, so you escalated your lying smear, instead of apologizing for your initial smear.
Of course, you won’t change your “opinion”, because you lack the integrity.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Main Entry:
pro·jec·tion Listen to the pronunciation of projection
Pronunciation:
\prə-ˈjek-shən\
Function:
noun
Date:
1557

1 a: a systematic presentation of intersecting coordinate lines on a flat surface upon which features from a curved surface (as of the earth or the celestial sphere) may be mapped
b: the process or technique of reproducing a spatial object upon a plane or curved surface or a line by projecting its points; also : a graph or figure so formed
2: a transforming change
3: the act of throwing or thrusting forward
4: the forming of a plan : scheming
5 a (1): a jutting out (2): a part that juts out b: a view of a building or architectural element
6 a: the act of perceiving a mental object as spatially and sensibly objective; also : something so perceived b: the attribution of one’s own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people or to objects; especially : the externalization of blame, guilt, or responsibility as a defense against anxiety
7: the display of motion pictures by projecting an image from them upon a screen
8 a: the act of projecting especially to an audience b: control of the volume, clarity, and distinctness of a voice to gain greater audibility
9: an estimate of future possibilities based on a current trend

Nunez: As you can see, the term “projection” has many meanings, but I’m sorry if I confused you by using one that you didn’t know about.  I was referring to pp’s projection of his own definition on something that was anything but moderate, and I explained it in detail, but you only cherry-picked the part you could use to try to smear me.

Just to put you on notice: when you attack me, I know I was right.  If you had an effective counter-argument, I’m sure you would use it.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

You smeared me by first, stating that I was a cop who beat “hippies” at Woodstock......
robert108 on July 6, 2008 at 05:51 pm

Oh get off it uncle Robert. It was explained to you many times. Your innability to grasp the notion that no one here can view you as a hippie is beyond pale.
Also your conservative victim mentality is getting a bit borring.

It was explained to you many times.

No; you and Ken lied many times, none of which was any sort of “explanation”.  You lie again, because I never said I was a “hippie”, either.  You just can’t seem to get anything right, can you?
I know you would make a good argument if you could, but your use of personal attack is proof that I’m right.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

Many hippies in woodstock no?
You said you were there. You did not say why. Therefore you being a stale and crusty person, we could not visualize you being there for free love,lots of acid, Mary Jane and peace.
Now get off it.

...anyways… back to Rob’s post… Clinton’s little hint is just a sample of the long-knives to come as summer rolls into fall - ala Gen. Clark

Just in case you forgot, remember the vile NAACP pick-up-truck-drags-a-black-man-because-Bush-was-a-racist-and-let-it-happen campaign ad?

The lefties will drag Senator mcCain through the dirtiest mud imaginable!

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

“Glory is not a conceit. It is not a decoration for valor. Glory belongs to the act of being constant to something greater than yourself, to a cause, to your principles, to the people on whom you rely, and who rely on you in return.”
Senator John McCain, Faith of Our fathers

The context for the POW comment was a parable Clinton told about Mandela - how Mandela said that when he was released from prison he realized he had to let go his hatred or he’d remain a prisoner. The remark was meant to highlight Mandela’s exceptionality, though I admit the reference to POWs does seem a little loaded (Mandela was not a POW). Nonetheless, this is a story that Clinton has told repeatedly over the years to exhort various groups and individuals (Kosovars, African Americans, Columbine students) to get past their anger at injustice or violence. Multiple cited instances at
http://xpostfactoid.blogspot.com/2008/07/clinton-on-mandela-old-story.html

You did not say why.

Yes, I did.  You missed it again.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.