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Monday, October 06, 2008

Biden Lies, Claims Obama Never Said He’d Talk With Iran

What makes this a particularly egregious lie is that Biden himself criticized Obama for wanting to sit down with Ahmadinejad back when the two were rivals in the Democrat primaries.

In the popular media wisdom, Sarah Palin is the neophyte who knows nothing about foreign policy while Joe Biden is the savvy diplomatic pro. Then what are we to make of Mr. Biden’s fantastic debate voyage last week when he made factual claims that would have got Mrs. Palin mocked from New York to Los Angeles?

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...there’s the Senator’s astonishing claim that Mr. Obama “did not say he’d sit down with Ahmadinejad” without preconditions. Yet Mr. Biden himself criticized Mr. Obama on this point in 2007 at the National Press Club: “Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was elected President? Absolutely, positively no.”

So which version of Joe Biden are we to believe?  The one that’s flaking for the guy at the top of his ticket now?  Or the guy who was running against the guy now at the top of his ticket in 2007?

Which is the same sort of quandary we face with Obama.  Is Obama the guy we see now on the campaign trail?  The well-spoken, good-looking, articulate populist?  Or the guy who sat in church every Sunday and listen to Rev. Wright damn America?  Or the guy who opposed a law making it illegal to leave babies to die after they survived an abortion?  Or the guy who palled around and worked with unrepentant left-wing bomb-setter William Ayers back in Chicago?

Why can’t these two just be genuine?

Read the whole article as it chronicles Biden’s recent “fantastic voyage” of deceptions.

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Why can’t these two just be genuine?

They are Democrats running for office!  ‘Nuf said.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on October 6, 2008 at 01:05 pm

Bat One,

Indeed.  And look at the friends they keep.  Here’s Bernadine Dohrn (aka Mrs William Ayers) :

For those of you unfamiliar with Dohrn and her special love of violence in the name of radicalism, one need look no further than her December 1969 rant celebrating the brutal Tate-LaBianca murders with the exhortation, “Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies. Wild!” According to Discover the Networks, Dohrn had even less sympathy for those who were on the receiving end of the Weathermen’s violence:

A Chicago district attorney named Richard Elrod was seriously injured in the Weatherman riot that erupted during the Chicago “Days of Rage” in October 1969, and he was paralyzed for life as a result. Dohrn later led a celebration of Elrod’s paralysis by leading her comrades in a parody of a Bob Dylan song — “Lay, Elrod, Lay.”

Dohrn was a principal signatory of a Declaration of War against “AmeriKKKa” — now a standard spelling among far-left radicals — and co-authored Prairie Fire: The Politics of Anti-Imperialism. Dohrn participated in multiple bombings and was accused of planting a bomb at a San Francisco police station that killed an officer and maimed others, according to an FBI informant.

Once her days as an active terrorist were over, Bernardine Dohrn was employed by prestigious law firm Sidley & Austin from 1984 to 1988. Dohrn had been hired by Howard Trienens, the head of the firm and an associate of Thomas G. Ayers, Bill Ayers’ father. It is unclear whether Obama knew the former fugitive Dohrn through Sidley & Austin but there is no doubt that, by the time Obama joined Sidley & Austin as a summer associate, Obama had known Bill Ayers for two years through their involvement in Alliance for Better Chicago Schools.

Ayers and Dohrn infamously played host and hostess to Barack Obama’s political “coming out” with a meeting at their home, where outgoing State Senator Alice Palmer tapped Barack Obama to be her handpicked successor.

Other direct connections between the Obamas and the Ayers are much harder to discern and have never been thoroughly investigated.

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Barack Obama’s ties to the Weathermen aren’t ties that were 40 years removed from a child’s experiences, but the conscious decision of a young radical to establish a relationship to an infamous terrorist because of shared ideology and interests.

Barack Obama never set any bombs. But he’s never had problems with associating with those who did.


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Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Rodney Graves on October 6, 2008 at 01:49 pm
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When Biden said that Obama “did not say he’d sit down with Ahmadinejad”, I think his point was that Ahmadinejad would not be the correct person to sit down with.  Both Obama and Biden argued that Ahmadinejad was not the most powerful figure in Iran; it was the supreme leader Ayatollah.  After being told that in two debates, you guys still didn’t understand.

chris on October 6, 2008 at 04:43 pm
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Obama said he’d meet w/ the leaders.  It’s a weird & persistent retardation among conservatives that they continue to think Ahmedenijad, rather than the mullahs, holds the reins to power.

jpe on October 6, 2008 at 05:20 pm

Obama said he’d meet w/ the leaders.  It’s a weird & persistent retardation among conservatives that they continue to think Ahmedenijad, rather than the mullahs, holds the reins to power.

It was clear by the context he meant Iamabadhandjob!


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on October 6, 2008 at 05:27 pm

Denial is strong with the lefties.


Save America; boycott the MSM.

robert108 on October 6, 2008 at 05:32 pm

Isn’t funny how the MSM won’t report any of this stuff?
If the media actually did it’s job NOBAMA wouldn’t even be in the lead he would have never made it through the primary.


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goon on October 6, 2008 at 06:59 pm
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Blowing my horn again, I know people are getting sick of hearing from me on this issue, but Obama has bigger worries named Raines, Gorelick, and Johnson, the fat lady will sing soon!

tothestars2 on October 6, 2008 at 07:13 pm
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All I have to say is thank god for you tube.  You can find him saying that he would sit down with Iran, North Korea and any other two bit terrorist sponsoring socialist country to get Ideas, er, talking so he can work his charm. 

I even showed this and the Barney Frank stuff to my die hard liberal in-laws who will now not vote for him because of this and all his lies and shady characters he hangs around.

Remember, be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it in spades, as the old saying goes!

James on October 6, 2008 at 07:54 pm

Blowing my horn again, I know people are getting sick of hearing from me on this issue, but Obama has bigger worries named Raines, Gorelick, and Johnson, the fat lady will sing soon!

Isn’t ever going to happen. The MSM will not report it, there will be no investigations so NOBAMA is in the clear…


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goon on October 6, 2008 at 08:19 pm
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When Biden said that Obama “did not say he’d sit down with Ahmadinejad”, I think his point was that Ahmadinejad would not be the correct person to sit down with.  Both Obama and Biden argued that Ahmadinejad was not the most powerful figure in Iran; it was the supreme leader Ayatollah.  After being told that in two debates, you guys still didn’t understand.

Obama said he’d meet w/ the leaders.  It’s a weird & persistent retardation among conservatives that they continue to think Ahmedenijad, rather than the mullahs, holds the reins to power.

What is about Leftists that will make them lie repeatedly about the same thing.  Obama DID SAY IT. Anyone who denies that is lying. That includes the two Leftards above AND CNN.

Bullwinkle on October 6, 2008 at 09:48 pm

Biden lies....."words, only words”.

B.O.

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