Biden: Jesus Would Want Higher Taxes

• September 23, 2008

Joe Biden isn’t backing down from his startling claim last week that raising taxes on the rich is the “patriotic” thing to do. On Thursday he upped the ante, thundering that he also has Jesus in his corner. “Catholic social doctrine as I was taught it is, you take care of people who need the help the most,” Mr. Biden preached to a group of union supporters on Thursday.

If Sarah Palin said something like that the left would be calling her a theocrat, and MSNBC would be holding panel discussions questioning whether or not Palin would talk McCain into establishing a national religion.
But Joe Biden? Meh.
As for wealth redistribution being Christian, the Wall Street Journal notes:

We won’t get into a theological debate with Mr. Biden, except to say that Biblical tax rates tended to run around 10%, not the 39.6%-plus that Barack Obama’s tax plan calls for.

I’m no Christian myself, and I’m not really interested in theological discussions either, but I’m pretty sure that Jesus wanted to help people who wanted to help themselves. Which is different than punishing the most successful members of society with exorbitant tax rates in order to fund government services used to buy votes from everyone else.

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http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

The one thing the selection of Joe Biden as the Democrats’ VP candidate brings to the discussion is a serious question about the judgment of the guy who chose him, Barack Obama. This is no small thing, as Obama has repeatedly told us that his campaign is based on judgment, not experience (since, obviously, Obama has no experience!)

The Left thinks Biden is sooooo smart. The man is a gaffe factory.
http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

Biden, you are filthy rich. Why don’t you give till it hurts.

Biden made 300,000 – 400,000 and gave a very small amount to charity somewhere in the 360 dollar range but wants to spend other peoples money.
http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

“Catholic social doctrine as I was taught it is, you take care of people who need the help the most,”

Someone should alert this fool as to what “Catholic social doctrine” says about abortion.

So called “liberals” have no shame. First they call everybody who even mentions Christianity or God “theocrats”, then they turn around and pervert the meaning of the Christian teachings to their own selfish and deadly ends.

This is what Barack Obama and Joseph Biden support:

Every three days, more African-Americans are killed by abortion than
have been killed by the Ku Klux Klan in its entire history.

Barack Obama: more successful in killing blacks than the KKK.

Now what was it that Biden was saying about “Catholic social doctrine” again?

“Liberal” jackasses. All of them.
Jerry

Jesus H,…. you know the rest..

Joe Biden: God’s gift to Republicans.

“Bet he’s sorry, now..” Sarah Palin
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

If Joe Biden was president, the State of the Union message would last right on through Valentines Day.

Which year?
Hungry Bear

There’s a huge difference between compassion and taxes.

Compassion is when someone sees a need and gives of themselves to fix it.

Taxes create and staff programs. Most of the money collected actually benifits the government employees hired to solve the problem.
Hawk

but I’m pretty sure that Jesus wanted to help people who wanted to help themselves.

You should really stay away from theological discussions. And the WSJ guy is an idiot. Jesus did not limit anything to 10%. Give unto your need.
Hawk

Third, giving is totally unrelated to taxes. The silliness of the analogy is both ignorant and ironic. Ignorant because confiscation and giving are so far from each other.

I am not the one who was making the analogy. It was the ignorant moron in the WSJ. There was not a Roman income tax of 10%, he was talking about tithing.

Believers are encouraged to give whatever amount they desire as long as they have it to give.

And Jesus did not say to give anything you desire as long as you could afford it, he said give everything you could afford.
Harry

Biden, you are filthy rich. Why don’t you give till it hurts.
Bat One

The one thing the selection of Joe Biden as the Democrats’ VP candidate brings to the discussion is a serious question about the judgment of the guy who chose him, Barack Obama. This is no small thing, as Obama has repeatedly told us that his campaign is based on judgment, not experience (since, obviously, Obama has no experience!)

Joe Biden is apparently an affably witless blowhard, who makes even John Edwards look thoughtfully intelligent by comparison.

For most of us, patriotism is about respect and honor and sacrifice that comes from within us as individuals… not what government forces us to surrender in the name of group victimology and class warfare.

If Biden is the best choice Obama could come up with for VP, I shudder to think what sort of idiots he’s staff a government with, or allow into his inner circle of advisors… or appoint to the Supreme Court and the federal bench.

Biden has certain amusement value to be sure. Its not often we see someone who can speak so tirelessly with a foot in his mouth. But as Obama’s running mate, Joe Biden is a clear and present reminder that the candidate with no pertinent experience is more than a little short in the judgment department as well.
sayanything-2407

but religion can enter the sphere to justify tax increases.

And to pander to certain groups; to try and show you have some sort of moral compass when getting caught doing something you shouldn’t, you grab a bible and go to church; ect
http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

Give unto your need

Waiting for you worthless liberals to step up to the plate.

Jesus did not limit anything to 10%

They call it tithes.

And as far as the liberal’s welfare plans. Wasn’t the road to hell paved with good intentions? The fact that these welfare plans have led to untold destruction in families and lives is a mark against those that have failed to learn from reality.
http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

the State of the Union message would last right on through Valentines Day.

Who’s stuff will he be reading?
Texan Across the Pond

WWJD? I think he’d redo the whipping the moneychangers thing and whip the heck out of Senators who vote for infanticide (Obama) and Senators who use His name to justify theft (Biden).
http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

Who does Joe Biden think he is; Tim Mathern?
Bat One

If Joe Biden was president, the State of the Union message would last right on through Valentines Day.
Neiman

Jesus taught personal charity, voluntary giving to help those in the Church in need; He did not advocate forced charitable giving through onerous government taxation. He never taught us to put our hands in anyone elses pocket so that we could give to others.

It is understandable that Christians, in this case liberal Christians, feeling compassion for others would force into Scripture a social Gospel that does not exist there in reality. But, I am always amused these people never volunteer to give a greater percentage of their income in taxes, despite the current rates.
Bat One

You should really stay away from theological discussions. And the WSJ guy is an idiot. Jesus did not limit anything to 10%. Give unto your need.

Hawk,

So, after advising against “theological discussions” you proceed to continue the “theological discussion”??? That’s a pretty convoluted thought sequence… even for an attorney!
Bat One

Who’s stuff will he be reading?

It doesn’t really matter much. Biden has already demonstrated a casual disregard for other people’s material. And if it really was Biden giving a State of the Union Speech, the only ones paying any attention would be the sound engineers and the cameramen.

Actually, the only problem would be getting Barack Obama to give up a couple teleprompters.
robert108

Taxes are confiscated by force; tithing is given voluntarily.
Big difference. Biden steps in it again.
http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

I’m pretty sure that Jesus was talking that a person should sacrifice themselves to help the poor. I don’t recall at all his command that you’ll get to heaven by stealing from someone else to give to the poor.
Hungry Bear

Let me get this striaght, religion needs to be kept out of the public sphere when it comes to abortion, profanity, sex education, same sex marraige, and pornography; but religion can enter the sphere to justify tax increases.
HG

And Jesus did not say to give anything you desire as long as you could afford it, he said give everything you could afford.

Wrong again H.

Again what the hell does personal charity have to do with taxes? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
Biden made the connection and your comments imply the same.

Personal charity is a virtue Christ taught. Government is no charitable organization nor is tax revenues charitable contributions. The difference is clear when you consider the teaching of Christ on taxes.
HG

You should really stay away from theological discussions. And the WSJ guy is an idiot. Jesus did not limit anything to 10%. Give unto your need.

Hawk,

Wow! You couldn’t be more wrong.
First, the tax rates in the OT were 10%. It was a flat tax that all paid.

Second, giving in the NT (to the church for operating costs) is not set at any rate. Believers are encouraged to give whatever amount they desire as long as they have it to give.

Third, giving is totally unrelated to taxes. The silliness of the analogy is both ignorant and ironic. Ignorant because confiscation and giving are so far from each other. To suggest that biblical giving is the standard for tax policy is so absurd as to be laughable. And ironic because democrats are willing to ignore the separation of church and state by making the analogy in the first place.
Hungry Bear

Biden is the deadliest arrow in the Republican quiver.
MMA Grappler

Giving everything you can afford to help others is noble.

Giving everything you can afford to the government is like flushing it down the toilet.
http://sayanythingblog.com robport

Jesus did not limit anything to 10%.

He was talking about biblical-era tax rates, moron. The kind levied by the Romans, etc.

Seriously. Try to follow along.

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