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Wednesday, January 07, 2009


Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi Scheme Pails In Comparison To Social Security, Medicare

John Stossel points out that the self-righteous indignation displayed by our political leaders at the news of Bernie Madoff’s schemes and scams are a little hypocritical given what they do with our tax dollars:

Bernard Madoff, who stands accused of bilking sophisticated investors out of $50 billion, is reported to have told two of his executives that his business was “a giant Ponzi scheme.”

Perpetrators of Ponzi schemes lead clients to believe their money is invested and that their profits are the fruits of the money manager’s savvy. But in fact, the “profits” are merely revenue provided by the next group of dupes. Eventually, when no more new dupes can be found, the scheme crashes.

Political leaders say Madoff’s alleged crimes show what’s wrong with the country. President-elect Obama said the “massive fraud that was made possible in part because the regulators who were assigned to oversee Wall Street dropped the ball.” Senator Majority Leader Harry Reid added, “[R]egulators have been asleep at the wheel.”

Politicians go on and on about Wall Street “greed” and “irresponsibility.”

But Madoff’s scam was small compared to Ponzi schemes the government itself runs: Social Security and Medicare.

Good point.

At some point, we’re going to have to admit that Social Security and Medicare are unsustainable as spending programs and do something different.  But admitting as much would require honesty, and there seems to be little of that in Washington DC these days.

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Comments

Avatar for mtpockets

It is time social security and medicaid reverts back They keep talking about it going broke but no one addresses that fact that funds are being diverted to programs it was never meant to support. I’d be curious to know how much actually goes to retired people versus welfare programs.

mtpockets on January 7, 2009 at 08:45 am
Avatar for Carlene Gauler

They call it a Ponsi scheme, well what about the Ponsi scheme being applied to Social Security! It is the same thing our government is doing with SS.

Carlene Gauler on January 7, 2009 at 11:14 am

I opted out of SS and Medicare over 12 years ago and never looked back!4h4bqs.jpg


No Free Lunch
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Kevin on January 7, 2009 at 11:22 am

But.  The Social Democrats started taxing social security.  Was it Jimmy or Bill?  I believe Al Gore cast the tie-breaking vote.  Soon I/we will be paying 85% of our Social Security Insurance payments as income.  This is the only case of insurance being taxed.

All they have to do is raise the age of retirement again, and then tax at 100% or 200% or whatever they choose.  This is called reneging on a promise.  Another definition could be a lie.


Communism is evil

Chief RZ on January 7, 2009 at 11:47 am
Avatar for Dino

Selfish conservatives have been predicting the death of SS and Medicare since the day they were signed into law.

Funny though, how they always use them, even going so far as to commit fraud to get the cash from other programs like Medicaid.

I think it needs to d be said that, for the most part, conservatives are savages not fit for living among other humans.

Dino on January 7, 2009 at 03:38 pm

Many would be looking at their
Lehman Bros statements
and wailing
had the country bought into
the Bush/R privatize SS scheme.

WOOF on January 7, 2009 at 07:28 pm
Avatar for Tim

I think you need to read your history Chief. The taxing of social security occurred in 1983. You can verify it on the Social Security website.

Do you know who the president was then, or do I have to supply you a link to that as well?

Tim on January 7, 2009 at 08:30 pm
Avatar for jessica

Congratulations on a very well thought about social security.This is the right time to make awareness on this to prevent the antisocial elements and safe guard the nation.
http://www.attorneysnc.com

jessica on January 7, 2009 at 08:31 pm

Many would be looking at their
Lehman Bros statements
and wailing
had the country bought into
the Bush/R privatize SS scheme.

well, unless they actually invested the money…. a quick google search pops up a proposal in 1996. im guessing it was talked about LONG before that, but dont want to look it up. so, if they invested it then we’d have;

1996 dow 4000 dow today 9000
1996 NAS 750 NAS today 1500

TWICE as much money in the algore ‘lock box’ right now if you invested in an index fund. that does not include the MOST important thing… MASSIVE dollars into the market that would have launched it even higher and provide more stability. and imagine the money the old timers would have had when the NAS was 6000!!!!!!!!!!

now, lets talk about that little texas town that opted out…..

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5554/is_200504/ai_n21853434?tag=content;col1


A coward is much more exposed to quarrels than a man of spirit.
Thomas Jefferson

Mine is better than ours.
Benjamin Franklin

jimmypop on January 7, 2009 at 08:43 pm
Avatar for Billy

Sure sounds like the making of a necktie party for congress is is warranted.

Billy on January 8, 2009 at 11:12 am
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