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Wednesday, April 23, 2008

Barack Obama’s Friend Bernadine Dohrn Was Committing Crimes Well Into The 1980’s

Barack Obama has often tried to shrug off his connections to Weather Underground bomb-setters William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn by saying that their crimes were committed when he was a small child, and that they’re changed people.  Something he thinks makes it acceptable for him to campaign with them (he launched his campaign for the Illinois state senate from the married Ayers and Dohrn home) and fund raise with them (he served on the board of the Woods Foundation with Dohrn).

But the truth is that as late as September 11th, 2001 William Ayers was saying that he never regretted setting bombs in his radical past and wished he’d set more.  And now we learn that Bernadine Dohrn was assisting in armed robberies, identity theft and murder as late as the 1980’s.

According to a 1982 New York Times report, Broadway Baby was implicated in an investigation of a series of violent armed robberies in New York—netting more than $2 million over a two-year span—committed by former Black Panthers and Weather Underground members in the early ’80s.

Their aim? Global revolution, naturally. They needed cash, but the rich white parents weren’t in a giving mood. So their privileged offspring grabbed guns, pointed them at the faces of the working man and, sometimes, they pulled the trigger.

At Broadway Baby, customers often paid by check and used driver’s licenses for identification. On Dec. 28, 1979, information from two customer files was used to apply for two driver’s licenses at the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles. The fraudulent licenses were used to rent getaway cars for the gang.

Investigators tracked the identities on two licenses for the getaway cars. The names belonged to women who had shopped at Broadway Baby in December 1979. But they weren’t robbers.

And who was the manager of Broadway Baby during that period of the customer ID theft?

Dohrn, the future wife of Ayers, identified by investigators as taking customer information from one, and possibly both, of the women shoppers. Dohrn was never charged in that case.

Later Dohrn refused to cooperate with a grand jury investigation into the crimes committed by this gang she assisted and spent 7 months in jail on contempt charges.

Allah at Hot Air adds:

Only 14 years after these murders, Barack Obama went to the house of the apparent accomplice in these robberies and murders and asked for her support in his first political campaign. He sat on panels with Ayers in Chicago discussing politics and worked with him on the Woods Foundation board. This isn’t just some neighbor with whom he accidentally crossed paths; the Obamas sought out Ayers and Dohrn and maintained political ties with them at least through 2002.

Do we want to hear another verse of how Ayers and Dohrn somehow equate to Tom Coburn?

Again and again the Obama faithful in the media try to give Barack a pass for these associations, but as far as I’m concerned if you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas.

Throughout Obama’s political career he’s sought out the criminals Ayers and Dohrn for support and camaraderie and only broke ties with them in 2002 when it was time to start manufacturing his middle-of-the-road, “hope and change” persona for his national elections.  Which begs the question: Who is the real Obama?  The man who hangs out with the likes of Ayers and Dohrn or the man who is now on the political stump trying to tell us that his past with those people doesn’t matter?

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Also, one of Obama’s other neighbors, who he met and talked with has a wife who knew of people who committed crimes.

Can you believe this guy?

Hannitized on April 23, 2008 at 10:21 am

Hannitized:

Obama’s associations clearly show that he isn’t just at the far left of America, but at the far left of the Democratic party as well.

Do you really think that someone who can be so clearly linked to individuals who hate America, hate Jews, hate capitalism, is a good national representative for your party in a general election.

I used to think that this election was in the Democrats pocket, and if Hillary wins it might still be. As liberal as Hillary is, she isn’t as demonstrably far left as Obama. But if the junior senator form Ill. is on the ticket, it’s McCain’s to loose.

Wing Chun Geologist on April 23, 2008 at 01:59 pm
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Obama’s associations clearly show that he isn’t just at the far left of America, but at the far left of the Democratic party as well.

He was introduced to them by the person he replaced.  How was he supposed to know who they were?

Do you really think that someone who can be so clearly linked to individuals who hate America, hate Jews, hate capitalism, is a good national representative for your party in a general election.

Linked?  I am not sure what your definition of “linked” is but I think it’s safe to say it is a flimsy relationship at best.

It’s not helpful, but I believe smart voters see past this association the Republicans are exaggerating.

Hannitized on April 23, 2008 at 02:29 pm

What he can be blamed for is not acknowledging that his neighbor has a political agenda that, if successful, would make it impossible to lift academic achievement for disadvantaged children. As I have shown elsewhere in City Journal, Ayers’s politics have hardly changed since his Weatherman days. He still boasts about working full-time to bring down American capitalism and imperialism. This time, however, he does it from his tenured perch as Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, Chicago. Instead of planting bombs in public buildings, Ayers now works to indoctrinate America’s future teachers in the revolutionary cause, urging them to pass on the lessons to their public school students.

The next time Obama—the candidate who purports to be our next “education president”—discusses education on the campaign trail, it would be nice to hear what he thinks of his Hyde Park neighbor’s vision for turning the nation’s schools into left-wing indoctrination centers. Indeed, it’s an appropriate question for all the presidential candidates.

--- Sol Stern

http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0423ss.html

Wing Chun Geologist on April 23, 2008 at 03:41 pm
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Linked?  I am not sure what your definition of “linked” is but I think it’s safe to say it is a flimsy relationship at best.

Yeah! Them 20 year “flimsy” relationships are but a gossamer!
Face it, Hannie! You’re not sure what a LOT of definitions are!


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Proof on April 23, 2008 at 03:46 pm

If McCain

- Attendeded meeting hosted by David Duke

- Shared a board with Tom Metzgar and went to his house

-allowed the board he belonged to to give money to groups that espoused anti-black sentiment

We would assume that he was a racist. Well Obama spent 20 ears going to church services given the hateful Rev. Wright. He served on a board with America-hater William Ayers. And the Woods foundation has given money to organizations that are anti-American and anti-Jew.

But all that is circumstantial I suppose

Wing Chun Geologist on April 23, 2008 at 04:01 pm
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Well Obama spent 20 ears going to church services given the hateful Rev. Wright. He served on a board with America-hater William Ayers.

What does the board do?  Why does serving on a board matter?  It doesnt.  Unless the board was some kind of terrorist establishment, youve got nothing.

Even Colin Powell thinks Write did good things and praised Obama for not disowning him.  Go figure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auco5TU8Y9g

Hannitized on April 23, 2008 at 04:12 pm
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Them 20 year “flimsy” relationships are but a gossamer!

Obama knew Dohrn/Aires for 20 years?  Or are you trying to change the subject?

Hannitized on April 23, 2008 at 04:14 pm

Wing Chung.  Exactly.  We are seeing more of these people’s true philosophies exposed for all to see.  Now.  If the USA votes for them, they are voting for communism and not for the USA that our forefathers fought and died for--freedom.


Communism is evil

Chief RZ on April 23, 2008 at 04:26 pm
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Obama knew Dohrn/Aires for 20 years?  Or are you trying to change the subject?

Okay, bonehead, since your ADD is kicking in early. YOU quoted (less than two hours ago):

Do you really think that someone who can be so clearly linked to individuals who hate America, hate Jews, hate capitalism, is a good national representative for your party in a general election.

Individuals (plural)"who hate America, hate Jews, hate capitalism"… as in Farrakhan and Wright, doofus! (I don’t think anyone has ever accused Dohrn/Aires of “hating Jews”.) To that particular statement which you yourself quoted, ADD-BOY, YOU responded:

Linked?  I am not sure what your definition of “linked” is but I think it’s safe to say it is a flimsy relationship at best.

I made reference to the “Jew hating” part of the statement, which would be Obama’s pastor Wright and his good buddy Calypso Louis Farrakhan.
Do you understand now? (I doubt it!) But try!


Excuse me, you were saying?

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Proof on April 23, 2008 at 04:28 pm
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Individuals (plural)"who hate America, hate Jews, hate capitalism"… as in Farrakhan and Wright, doofus! (I don’t think anyone has ever accused Dohrn/Aires of “hating Jews”.) To that particular statement which you yourself quoted, ADD-BOY, YOU responded:

Well sure, that is what WING said, but MY response was specific to Aires and Dohrn. 

I made reference to the “Jew hating” part of the statement, which would be Obama’s pastor Wright and his good buddy Calypso Louis Farrakhan.
Do you understand now? (I doubt it!) But try!

I said “IT” is a flimsy relationship at best.  Is the word “it” plural or singular?

And yes, I get what you are saying, in defense of you trying to change the subject from Aires/Dohrn to Wright.

Hannitized on April 23, 2008 at 04:41 pm
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Well sure, that is what WING said,

And I referenced that in my response to you. If you can’t keep up, just admit it and sit by the sidelines in the Kiddie Pool while the adults converse.

How am I changing the subject if I comment on what you’re quoting?

BTW, Wing was making a broader reference to all the baggage that Obama brings with him.
Dohrn/Aires is a part of a larger whole. Do try to keep up!


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Proof on April 23, 2008 at 04:58 pm
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How am I changing the subject if I comment on what you’re quoting?

Because it’s not my quote, it’s not what I responded to and it is not part of anything I have discussed at any point during this thread.

Its not that big of a deal anyway.  Its not that you need to be embarrassed for changing the subject..its just a distraction.  I am just not taking the bait.

BTW, Wing was making a broader reference to all the baggage that Obama brings with him.

Yup, I am just focusing on the topic at hand.  Because it is sort of a stretch to make this flimsy relationship something more than that.

Hannitized on April 23, 2008 at 08:04 pm

Hannitized…

I think your being a little disingenuous with your line of reasoning. My point is that Obama has a pattern of association with people who have a strong dislike for America. And many of the people he has associated with dislike Jews.

His pastor clearly has a strong dislike for the United States of America, a dislike for capitalism, and a dislike for Jews. Obama he attended this man’s sermons for 20 years but claimed never to have heard any of the hatred.

Obama also developed a friendship with Jew-hater Rashid Khalidi, a Pallistinian activist and the man who invited Iran’s bat-shit-crazy leader to Columbia. Khalidi held a fundraiser for Obama. And the Woods fund gave funds to organizations affiliated with Khalidi while Obama and Ayers were on the board. That same organization also has ties with terrorist groups that have killed innocent Israelis. How did Obama vote on that particular distribution of funds? How did Ayers vote? Nobody’s talking.

And the fact remains that Obama has been more than a little dishonest with the American people when minimizes his relationship with Ayers. While Ayers only gave Obama $200, he did hold a fundraiser, and did so at a time when he was familiar with Obama’s general beliefs. Are we to assume that it says absolutely nothing about Obama’s beliefs when is political debut is at the house of a man publicly works for the abolishment of capitalism and private property? Are we to assume that it when your political coming out party is at the home of someone who deeply hates America that it says nothing about your attitude about America?

Think about these questions:

Would Ayers have hosted a fundraiser for Obama if he weren’t confident that Obama would in some way help shephard America in a direction compatible with Ayers own beliefs?

What kind or people do you think Ayers would invite to a fundraiser? Do you think these would be people who share values with most Americans? Or would they simply reflect the narrow set of far left views of Hyde Park’s radical elite?

The fact is that Ayers is still 100% committed to Marxist revolution, and hosted a fundraiser for Obama, and introduced and recommended Obama to people who respected Ayer’s own political convictions.

Wing Chun Geologist on April 23, 2008 at 08:44 pm

Hannitized,

I think your being a little disingenuous with your line of reasoning.

Now there’s a novelty!


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on April 23, 2008 at 09:12 pm
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I AM SMART! Flimsy Link!  They are all FLIMSY!  It’s “safe to say” that I’ll discount anything negative for Obama and trumpet anything negative for you stupid conservatives!  FLIMSY!  I’m brilliant!  Bring on more bad news for Obama that I can deny!

Olbermanized on April 24, 2008 at 05:26 am
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My point is that Obama has a pattern of association with people who have a strong dislike for America.

You mean dislike the things that have occurred in this country.

Do you like the fact that slavery happened, or do you hate America?

Seriously dude........give me a break with that.

The rest of your tripe is that weak argument stretched out into 600 words.

Until you can understand the sillyness of your conclusion, there is no point having a debate with you.

Rob doesnt like the health department enforcing laws.  Does he hate America?

This is just insanity.

Hannitized on April 25, 2008 at 12:39 am
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there is no point having a debate with you.

Promises! Promises! The troll keeps saying this and yet won’t ever shut up!


Excuse me, you were saying?

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