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Thursday, December 21, 2006

Barack Obama: There’s No ‘There’ There

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Barack Obama

Barack Obama is the perfect politician for those who hate politics. Obama studiously avoids substance, thereby avoiding all that nasty give-and-take that far too many people believe actually hurts democracy. He is a perfect darling for moderates who have arrived at their mushy middle position more out of political ignorance than pondering the issues deeply. Obama does not threaten their lazy equilibrium. Above all, Obama is not 'divisive', as if divisiveness in a democracy is somehow the gravest possible sin.

As for Obama's fresh-faced Mr. Smith Goes To Washington image, there is a natural wariness among the chattering classes, believing that something too good to be true probably is.

Stanley Crouch states that yes Obama is black, but not really 'black' - "other than color, Obama did not - does not - share a heritage with the majority of black Americans, who are descendants of plantation slaves." Someone - I thought it was also Crouch, but I haven't been able to find the link again - opined that Obama does not seem to get much traction with African-Americans. Perhaps many blacks feel that if white people like him so much, there must be something wrong with him. There is no easier way to lose street cred than being a non-threatening black, I suppose.

Mickey Kaus - "this isn't a question of 'where's the beef', it's a question of 'where's the bun' - there's nothing there." Kaus also insightfully states that character is properly expressed by grappling with the issues, not by grappling with your own character.

Peggy Noonan - "He is uncompromised by a past, it is true. He is also unburdened by a record, unworn by achievement, unwearied by long labors."

Noonan has seen his type before, he is a 'destiny boy' who thinks he is qualified to rule based on little more than his overweening confidence in his own charisma. I would add that he suffers from the Clintonian conceit that attainment of celebrity is far more important than any achievment of substance - and that this is all that is necessary to carry the day, and all that history will remember. This is precisely what made Bill Clinton a C+ president at best.

Or . . . perhaps he is like a certain one-term Senator whose push forward into the White House was fuelled much more by charisma and literary achievment than by any legislative successes. That would of course be JFK, who upon arriving in the White House proved that he was no vacuous lightweight. So, perhaps there is hope after all.

These moderates might change their opinion of his non-divisiveness if they, you know, actually investigated his record, as compiled by Teri O'Brien over at The American Thinker:

  • Sponsored a pointless and burdensome unfunded mandate requiring local police departments to racially profile every traffic stop (because of course categorizing citizens by race is the most important problem local law enforcement must address. One wonders: if Sen. Obama gets stopped, which box do the police check for him? Is it just me or should he, given his mixed race parentage be the last person suggesting such a stupid law?)
  • Voted No on Constitutional amendment banning so-called "same-sex" marriage
  • Supported including "sexual orientation" in Illinois anti-discrimination laws
  • Opposes gun rights (NRA rating-F; Illinois Citizens for Handgun Control Rating-A)
  • Voted Against prohibiting early release for criminal sexual abusers
  • Voted "present" on a law prohibiting pornographic bookstores and strip clubs to be fewer than 1000 feet of schools and churches
  • Supported legislation making health care a "constitutional right," promoted by left-wing Physicians for National Health care, whose goal is socialized medicine for America, a goal Obama apparently shares
  • Opposed the state version of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which would require medical attention be given to babies fortunate enough to survive a botched abortion
  • Favors allowing partial birth abortion, which his wife called a "legitimate" medical procedure in a fund-raising letter
  • Voted "present" on a law requiring parental notification before a minor's abortion

In Obama's defense, he did vote for the Secure Fence Act, and has incredibly advocated military strikes against Iran.

What to make of all this? He is perfectly poised to take out Hillary Clinton. Hillary is a policy wonk with a nasty personality, an opportunist agenda, and poor political instincts. Obama is the anti-Hillary: naturally affable, leftist bona fides intact, unencumbered by embarrasing votes that anyone has bothered to notice, and with a great political nose. Or ears, if you prefer.

Crossposted from WILLisms.com

Comments

Avatar for Chad

I’d vote for him. However, just like Hillary, I don’t think he’s electable. I highly doubt the conservatives in this country are ready to vote for either a woman or a blackman to take this country’s top office.

Chad on December 21, 2006 at 10:14 am

Well, I don’t think that voting for a woman or a black just because they are a woman or a black is any better than voting against them for those reasons. That is just feelgood pandering of the worst kind.

You are wrong, however, about conservatives not being ready to vote for a woman or a black. Colin Powell would have won the Republican nomination had he chosen to run. If there were an American Margaret Thatcher, she would have easily found her way to the top of the ticket.

Republicans just aren’t going to vote for Hillary or Obama because they are leftists, not because of what they are.

Ken McCracken on December 21, 2006 at 10:20 am
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Chad,

You’re stereotyping.  A woman like Margaret Thatcher would have my vote.  A man like Steele would too.  Liberty and national security will get my and many, if not most, conservative votes no matter the gender or race personifying them.

HG on December 21, 2006 at 10:22 am

Bryant Gumble.  I swear. 

It is funny, but the Democrats seem to be the only ones that think race and gender matter when nominating people and when holding office.  The NAACP must be headed by a black man.  Women need x% of public offices and y% need to be reserved for blacks.  z% of law school admissions need to be minorities.  Guess what, Condi Rice is a black woman, yet blacks call her Aunt Jemima.  Colin Powell is a black man, yet blacks and Democrats do not cut him any slack.

In order to be black to Democrats, you must support reparations and believe that any time a black person does not get what they want, it is racism.  The Dems keep their token black militants around and let them run their mouths so that the can pander to the African American vote, but does anyone think that the Dems would support Jesse or Al Sharpton for President?  No way, they simply tolerate them and their lunacy for political purposes.  Dems believe blacks need to be cared for and protected because they are unable to take care of themselves.  Obama is the whitest black man holding public office and I honestly don’t believe the dems will nominate him for that very reason.  He is not militant enough to be a black Democrat.  Only Cynthia McKinney is.  He is too squishy to be taken seriously.  But he will be the token black man in the room during the Democratic nomination process, just like Al Sharpton was last election.

Justin B. on December 21, 2006 at 11:24 am

For those who care about a candidates religious beleifs, I have two things to offer:

1. From the Obama website:

Obama and his wife, Michelle, married in 1992 and live on Chicago ’s South Side where they attend Trinity United Church of Christ.

2.  From the Trinity United Church of Christ website:

Kwanzaa with Trinity United Church of Christ!
Join us on Wednesday December 27th at 11:30 a.m. or 7:14 p.m. for our Kwanzaa services

No mention of any Christmas services on Sunday the 24th. 

Happy Kwanza, Obamas!


[Feet make good soup!]

Marty on December 21, 2006 at 02:13 pm

Marty,

I can think of several other websites on which this information ought to be prominently posted.  If you don’t mind, I’d like to do so… with attribution, of course.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on December 21, 2006 at 02:29 pm

Chad said, I highly doubt the conservatives in this country are ready to vote for either a woman or a blackman to take this country’s top office.

You’re projecting Chad. You’re also not paying attention. If you were, you would have noticed that many conservatives were highly impressed with Condoleezza Rice before she got all state department on us.

You know who Condoleezza Rice is, right? Apparently not. Here you go. Since race and gender are so important to you (those factors tend to be important to small minds), take a look at her pic and notice what you see.

likwidshoe on December 21, 2006 at 02:49 pm

Bat one, please share it far and wide.  No need to give me any credit, unless you just want to.

Thanks for caring. A church that claims to be Christian yet celebrates the socialist-invented secular holiday of Kwanzaa over the birth of Christ is not Christian at all, but a wolf in sheep’s clothing.


[Feet make good soup!]

Marty on December 21, 2006 at 03:01 pm

Marty,

I will do so gladly… with attribution.

Incidentally, while I certainly would not wish to do anything to diminish the true spirit of the upcoming Christmas holiday, I can’t resist asking if perhaps you meant that last sentence in your comment to read instead, “a WOOF in sheep’s clothing”?

Just a thought.  Now I feel better.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on December 21, 2006 at 03:10 pm

Obama is the perfect Bill Clinton.  “Know nothing smile, know nothing, actions.”


Communism is evil

Chief RZ on December 21, 2006 at 04:27 pm
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From the Trinity United Church of Christ website:
Kwanzaa with Trinity United Church of Christ!
Join us on Wednesday December 27th at 11:30 a.m. or 7:14 p.m. for our Kwanzaa services
No mention of any Christmas services on Sunday the 24th.
Happy Kwanza, Obamas!
Marty on December 21, 2006 at 07:13 pm

Marty, with all due respect to your Christianity and knowlege of Christmas, I would like to point out that Christmas is on Monday December 25th. Therefore Christmas services are held on Monday December 25th 2006, and not Sunday the 24th of December.

ellinas on December 21, 2006 at 05:37 pm

Ellinas, there is no mention of Monday services on their website either. So what exactly is your point?

Personally, I don’t know of many churches that hold a special service on Christmas morning—unless it falls on a sunday.  However sunday morning will be a very special time at my Baptist church, as will the candle-light evening service.  As will the Midnight Masses held across this country.

Still, TUCC celebrates and invites the public to celebrate Kwanzaa, a “holiday” invented to celebrate African descent and socialist politics, with no religious meaning whatsoever, while apparently nothing special going on to celebrate the birth of the Savior that is their denominations namesake.

You don’t find that peculiar?


[Feet make good soup!]

Marty on December 21, 2006 at 06:32 pm

In 1966 Ron Karenga created Kwanzaa while in California[2], as the leader of the black nationalist United Slaves Organization (also known as the “US Organization"), in order to give African Americans an alternative holiday to Christmas.

In 1967, a year after Karenga proposed this new holiday, he publicly espoused the view that ”Jesus was psychotic” and that Christianity was a white religion that blacks should shun.[5] However, as Kwanzaa gained mainstream adherents, Karenga altered his position so as not to alienate practicing Christians, then stating in the 1997 Kwanzaa: A Celebration of Family, Community, and Culture, “Kwanzaa was not created to give people an alternative to their own religion or religious holiday.”


[Feet make good soup!]

Marty on December 21, 2006 at 07:04 pm

Boy, this Karenga guy (or is it Everett, or is it ‘Maulana’wink is something else. 

An interesting person to celebrate this season as an “alternative” to the birth of Jesus Christ…


[Feet make good soup!]

Marty on December 21, 2006 at 07:12 pm
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"Personally, I don’t know of many churches that hold a special service on Christmas morning—unless it falls on a sunday”
Marty on December 21, 2006 at 11:32 pm
All Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic, Assyrian,etc Christian churches celebrate Christmas on
Christmas day, which is December 25th.

Be advised that on year 2007 AD Christmas is Tuesday Dcember 2007, on year 2008 Christmas falls on Wednesday December 2008, on 2009 it is on Thursday December 2009 and so on. So will your “Baptist church” continue to celebrate Christmas on Sundays?

Marty I personaly don’t give a fuck about kwanzaa or this this Karenga guy.
Merry Christmas.
Ps. Check with your Pastor and let me know when will your church celebrate Christmas on 2007, 2008, 2009, etc, etc....

ellinas on December 21, 2006 at 07:45 pm

ellinas,

Whatever kind of specious argument are you trying to offer here?  And what does the day of the week have to with a supposedly Christian Church which takes the trouble to advertise and promote its Kwanza celebration on its website, but fails to mention any sort of Christmas service, either on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day?  Are you drunk?

Many Protestant denominations will hold celebratory service on both Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.  Others, such as most Baptist churches, hold their services on Christmas Eve, preferring that their members, pastor(s) and staff get to spend Christmas Day with their families.

Perhaps if you limited yourself to those topics of which you can demonstrate some knowledge?  The calender doesn’t count!


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on December 21, 2006 at 08:26 pm
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Whatever kind of specious argument are you trying to offer here? And what does the day of the week have to with a supposedly Christian Church which takes the trouble to advertise and promote its Kwanza celebration on its website, but fails to mention any sort of Christmas service, either on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day?  Are you drunk?

Many Protestant denominations will hold celebratory service on both Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.  Others, such as most Baptist churches, hold their services on Christmas Eve, preferring that their members, pastor(s) and staff get to spend Christmas Day with their families.

Perhaps if you limited yourself to those topics of which you can demonstrate some knowledge?  The calender doesn’t count!
Bat One on December 22, 2006 at 01:26 am

Perhaps if you took the time to read the whole thread while sober you would understand.
Your vocubulary does not impress me a bit.Your above statements are devoid of substance and common sence.
My statements stand as writen, because Marty said:"Personally, I don’t know of many churches that hold a special service on Christmas morning—unless it falls on a sunday” Marty on December 21, 2006 at 11:32 pm
Once again. I don’t give a fuck about kwanza, Karenga, or Churches that promote afrocentric and or waspy agendas.
Get sober adopt an everyday vocabulary so you can understand what the commoners are talking about and we will debate your and Marty’s hypocritical references to this and any other storefront church.

ellinas on December 22, 2006 at 12:40 am

For someone who doesn’t give a “f*ck”, you sure seem to be uptight about something.

Whether TUCC holds a special Christmas service on Christmas day, Christmas eve, or the nearest Sunday before, is of no concern.

What IS of particular concern, to me at least (and should be interesting to all who call themselves Christians) is that they don’t seem to be holding a special service AT ALL—Except for the Kwanzaa one.


[Feet make good soup!]

Marty on December 22, 2006 at 05:47 am

Back to the Obama electability ssue…

I’ve writtenon ths blog before that he’s an empty shell. He’s the empty conch shell the left has found on the beach. They blow in it and it makes a pretty noise but it is essentially meaningless.


The future ain’t what it used to be.....

Pilgrim on December 22, 2006 at 05:52 am

ellinas,

Believe me, please.  If I were actually trying to impress someone with either my vocabulary or my diction, it wouldn’t be you.  I have no more interest in impressing you in that manner than you have trying to impress me with the convoluted nature of your thought processes.

Had YOU managed to get through the entire thread, you might have noticed that the whole point was that a “United Church of Christ” thought it important to advertise their celebration of what is basically a racially-motivated, make believe, secular holiday (pandering), but could not be bothered to offer any notice of a Christmas celebration, a fact which would lead many folks to question the very “christianity” of the church.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on December 22, 2006 at 05:56 am

If US Senator and potential national candidate Barack Obama wants everyone to know that he is a Christian, as apparently he does, then it is only natural to notice his church’s emphasis on Kwanza and lack of any sort of mention of Christmas.

It is, to say the least, a rather peculiar brand of Christianity.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on December 22, 2006 at 06:02 am
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Marty and Bat One, This is what I said:I don’t give a fuck about kwanza, Karenga, or Churches that promote afrocentric and or waspy agendas

Bat One you said:If US Senator and potential national candidate Barack Obama wants everyone to know that he is a Christian, as apparently he does, then it is only natural to notice his church’s emphasis on Kwanza and lack of any sort of mention of Christmas.
It is, to say the least, a rather peculiar brand of Christianity.

Bat One. Notice it only took three rows of text for me and 6.5 rows for you to say, what you parroted from me.

I also found it strange that someone (Marty) would critisize a ”storefront church” and not know that Christmas is a holiday that even though is celebrated on December 25th, did not realize that Christmas is not on Sunday.

Then you Bat One say: “If US Senator and potential national candidate Barack Obama wants everyone to know that he is a Christian, as apparently he does, then it is only natural to notice his church’s emphasis on Kwanza and lack of any sort of mention of Christmas.
It is, to say the least, a rather peculiar brand of Christianity.”

Again lots of words to describe what I called a “storefront church” and “afrocentric”.

ellinas on December 22, 2006 at 08:11 pm

Heh, i still don’t get it, but thanks for the clarification ellinas.  Such as it is.

Have a merry kwanzaa, and a happily afrocentric Christmas.  Oh, and a storefront new year.


[Feet make good soup!]

Marty on December 23, 2006 at 05:30 am
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Heh, i still don’t get it, but thanks for the clarification ellinas.
Marty on December 23, 2006 at 10:30 am

Well Marty a “storefront church” is a non church following no accepted doctrines, or if I may, a non mainstream church, otherwords a made up church like a cult (think Branch Davidians).

And Marty Happy Hanukah, Merry Christmas, and Happy Kwanza (hope I did not forget anything”.

Merry Christmas my friend.

ellinas on December 23, 2006 at 07:07 am

ellinas,

Your definition of a “storefront” church is a bit more snarky and restrictive than it ought to be.  I have been involved in the “from scratch” establishment of two churches in my life, both affiliated with mainline Protestant denominations.  The first met in the basement of an old hardware store for the first 2 years of its existence.  The second in a school cafeteria.  Both are now very successful “pillars of the community” thanks to much hard work, prayer, and the faith of those involved.

There are undoubtedly many “storefront” churches which fit your limited definition.  But there are also many successful one that do not.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on December 23, 2006 at 07:31 am
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Bat One merry Christmas To you and your family.
You are a worthy debating opponent, and for that you have my respect.

ellinas on December 23, 2006 at 09:23 am

ellinas,

A very special “Merry Christmas” to you and yours as well.

We have two batches of Paula Dean’s gooey cake brownies in the oven right now, but home-made baclava, especially given all the work involved to do it right, is awfully, awfully tempting.  Perhaps we can all trade diet secrets after the holidays!?


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on December 23, 2006 at 09:36 am
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You got it....

ellinas on December 23, 2006 at 09:50 am
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