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Saturday, March 29, 2008


Barack Obama: I Don’t Want My Daughters “Punished” With A Baby

The “punished with a baby” part is noxious enough, but get a load of him putting pregnancy on par with an STD:

“Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old,” he said. “I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby. I don’t want them punished with an STD at age 16, so it doesn’t make sense to not give them information.”

A child isn’t a punishment.  In the case of an unwanted pregnancy it may be a consequence, but the term “punish” implies some third party sending the baby along in response to bad behavior.  But that’s now how it actually works.  An unwanted pregnancy can’t be a punishment because a child is the result of the actions of the parents.

Though I can see where a liberal like Obama would want to make it seem like those challenged with unwanted pregnancy are victims as that’s pretty much the liberal way.  Nobody is ever responsible for their own actions.  People don’t act, they are acted upon.

That’s the liberal way.

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It sheds a new light on the leftie slogan “for the children”.  You can see how much they really care about children by how quickly they want to kill them to escape the “punishment” of having one.  Total hypocrisy.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on March 29, 2008 at 09:51 pm

I feel bad that Obama was punished not only once, but twice.  What a raw deal for a Democrat.  I bet having sex with his wife showed him, lol jk.



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dougee on March 29, 2008 at 11:07 pm
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That makes me sick.  I consider all children (especially mine) a blessing.  “Punishment?”  No wonder Obamessiah was/is against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act and the ban on partial birth abortion.  This “punishment” crap is right in line with his anti-life politics.

Beth on March 30, 2008 at 12:10 am

Rob,

Obama goes to church, he believes in God. Maybe God is the third party that punishes his children for being irresponsible.

Just a thought.


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Hairy Polemic on March 30, 2008 at 06:08 am
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Obama could have this thing wrapped up now…all he has to do is get the super delegates to back him, which they can do at any time..but he hasn’t. He’s already given the supers more than three times as much money as Clinton has…

If ending the race is so important to the party, why haven’t the supers just decided to end it? What are they waiting for?

...it’s what we’re all waiting for….the unknowns about Obama.

Lezident on March 30, 2008 at 06:10 am

This assumes that Obama thinks his daughters are going to be tramps.


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The Whistler on March 30, 2008 at 06:29 am

Hypothetically…


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Maybe God is the third party that punishes his children for being irresponsible.

That could be another indication of the dereliction of duty on Rev. Wright’s part if he were to teach anything even approaching this! God doesn’t “punish” girls with pregnancy. He doesn’t punish people with venereal diseases: Those are the consequences of their actions.

“Punishment” is not synonymous with “consequence”.


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Kevin on March 30, 2008 at 08:45 am

What do you expect from a lawyer?

An invoice…


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Hairy Polemic on March 30, 2008 at 09:04 am

And it wasn’t even a “mistake” either.  A baby is what happens when you do it right!


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Marty on March 30, 2008 at 11:03 am

Maybe God is the third party that punishes his children for being irresponsible.

God does not need to punish anyone. He gave us free will and we are more than capable of making our own hell and punishing ourselves and our neighbors without any help from Him. He actually waits for us to call on Him so that He can love us and rescue us from our own folly!

And it wasn’t even a “mistake” either.  A baby is what happens when you do it right!

If a liberal gives birth to another liberal it is not a mistake, it is a crime against humanity!


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Neiman on March 30, 2008 at 11:21 am

I don’t want them punished with an STD at age 16

Since most condoms offer little protection againt STDs caused by the many variations on the HPV virus, I’m wondering what information can be given to young people to allow them to safely act irresponsibly.

Wing Chun Geologist on March 30, 2008 at 01:26 pm

Obama has something in common with Margaret Sanger who believed that black babies were punishment upon society.

Liberal “pro-choice” = millions upon millions of dead black babies. The “grim milestones” appear each and every day in abortion mills throughout America.

likwidshoe on March 30, 2008 at 01:26 pm

How would this sound?

“Look, I have sons 10 and 13 years old. I’m going to teach them about motorcycle safety. But if they make a mistake and ride recklessly, I don’t want them punished with a ticket. I don’t want them punished with a serious injury at age 16. So it doesn’t make sense not to give them information.”

Wing Chun Geologist on March 30, 2008 at 02:16 pm
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From here forward, instead of expecting “a little bundle of joy,” will a mother-to-be expect “a little bundle of punishment?”

andrew young on March 30, 2008 at 05:04 pm

I don’t want to punish my children and grandchildren with ignorance, so I will homeschool, independent school, church school, private school or foreign school children so they will not be punished by the dumbed down, no discipline, no values, immoral public schools.


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Chief RZ on March 30, 2008 at 05:38 pm
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Is this a high school blog? In reading these comments that is what it appears to be. Was that the right choice of words for Obama? No. But you all know as well as I do that he did not mean children are punishments. He meant unexpected pregnancies could be a type of punishment for those who do not take action to protect themselves prior to sexual intercourse. Of course none of you have ever said something and then thought about it later thinking “I should of used different words because there are idiots out there that may misconstrued what I say”. Grow up people and stop hanging on every word as if you’re looking for something to bitch about.

Vansmack on March 31, 2008 at 02:29 pm

Vansmack, we are going by what he said.  And I might add that this is not the first statement where he said controversial things about children.  How about when he said that kindergarden should teach sex ed?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zQryISazAc

I like that you bitch us out about bitching.  Get off your liberal high horse and grow up.



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dougee on March 31, 2008 at 02:45 pm

Grow up people and stop hanging on every word as if you’re looking for something to bitch about.

Translation

“please please don’t listen to what my candidate is saying.”


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...looking for something to bitch about.

I think Vansmack just dissed Hillary!


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We should apply this to everything.  Get arrested for DUI.  Kill a baby.  Cheat on your wife.  Kill a baby.  Lie on your tax return.  Kill a baby.  We couldn’t be held accountable for anything.  We’ll just blame all our actions all on those pesky little babies- and kill them.

Jerry on April 1, 2008 at 03:46 pm

Just use the Hillary Clinton excuse;

I made a mistake. I have a different memory. That happens. I’m human.


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Kevin on April 1, 2008 at 03:54 pm
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“Is this a high school blog? In reading these comments that is what it appears to be. Was that the right choice of words for Obama? No. But you all know as well as I do that he did not mean children are punishments. He meant unexpected pregnancies could be a type of punishment for those who do not take action to protect themselves prior to sexual intercourse. Of course none of you have ever said something and then thought about it later thinking “I should of used different words because there are idiots out there that may misconstrued what I say”. Grow up people and stop hanging on every word as if you’re looking for something to bitch about.”
Well, if Obama didn’t mean what he said, then it’s obvious to me that both of you went to the same public school to learn language skills!
    I should HAVE used words
    may MISCONSTRUE what I say
If both of you had been homeschooled or private schooled, you would more than likely be able to say what you mean and use proper grammar.

Kelli Stellmon on April 4, 2008 at 02:24 pm

Kelli: 

I should of used

Looks like your homeschooling didn’t quite bring your grammar up to public school quality.

I should have used…  smile


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pparets on April 4, 2008 at 02:34 pm

Kelli.  Obama’s words have meaning to use his own words.  The very idea that a baby is a punishment instead of a joy shows the contrast between liberals and conservatives.  Yes, as you stated, there are numerous ways to prevent an unwanted pregnancy before it happens including not having sexual intercourse until after marriage.  By the way, I would call this a college level board.  Your degrees?


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Chief RZ on April 4, 2008 at 02:48 pm

Was that the right choice of words for Obama? We have to assume he said what he meant. No. But you all know as well as I do that he did not mean children are punishments.  I know, as well as you should, that’s exactly what he said: “...punished with a child.”


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on April 4, 2008 at 03:39 pm
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Hardly the words I would choose for a speach. The guy is immature

organic nappies on June 1, 2008 at 09:35 pm
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A punishment is an undesired consequence of a poor decision. An unwanted baby is burden for the unprepared parent. So, in that respect, it is a punishment of sorts. Best word choice? No. Ruthless baby-hater? No.

Joan on June 18, 2008 at 10:14 pm

Joan: You don’t get it; it’s the baby who is being punished, with death by dismemberment.  The mother is being relieved of her responsibility.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on June 18, 2008 at 11:11 pm
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“Kelli: 

I should of used

Looks like your homeschooling didn’t quite bring your grammar up to public school quality.

I should have used… “

pparets, Did you happen to notice the quotation marks? That would mean I was quoting the person that used the poor grammar.

Kelli Stellmon on August 7, 2008 at 04:15 am

Kelli.  Obama’s words have meaning to use his own words.  The very idea that a baby is a punishment instead of a joy shows the contrast between liberals and conservatives.  Yes, as you stated, there are numerous ways to prevent an unwanted pregnancy before it happens including not having sexual intercourse until after marriage.  By the way, I would call this a college level board.  Your degrees?

I am a Registered Nurse. Where in my comments, do I make a reference to anything that is in disagreement with you? Pay attention to quotation marks! I happen to agree with you.

Kelli on August 7, 2008 at 04:27 am
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If I understand this correctly, all Obama was saying was that ignorance can lead to consequences that can break our hearts. Certainly it would be reasonable to call that “being punished for..”. Have you ever known someone who chose adoption for a baby they had as a teen? Have you ever seen them sob with unresolved grief ten and twenty years later? Have you ever known birth mothers who are sick in bed with grief every year on the birthdays of the child they relinquished in adoption, even though they knew they made the best possible choice? Or have you known people who had to choose a different route in their life because they chose to parent the child they had as a teenager?  If you have, you understand that a child is absolutely a blessing from God and not a punishment - but nonetheless an unplanned teenage pregnancy brings great heartache - often lifelong heartache when adoption is necessary - and is not something one would want for their children.

I believe children are a blessing from God I also would hope my daughter would never suffer the lifelong painful consequences of an unplanned teenage pregnancy (could we call this “being punished for someone’s choice to withhold knowledge?”). A baby is not a punishment. Pregnancy is not a punishment. Children are a blessing. But having to have your heart broken by adoption, or having your opportunities suddenly limited by choosing to parent, or worse than any, being tempted into killing the unborn child - that certainly is a painful consequence of the teenage pregnancy. And if someone suffers a terrible consequence of someone else’s choice (in this case someone’s choice to withhold certain information) that could also be called “being punished” for someone else’s choice. Step back and look at what Obama was saying, and I think you’ll see he was not talking about children or pregnancy as punishments in themselves.

K Grames on October 21, 2008 at 06:27 pm
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God does not need to punish anyone. He gave us free will and we are more than capable of making our own hell and punishing ourselves and our neighbors without any help from Him. He actually waits for us to call on Him so that He can love us and rescue us from our own folly!

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