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Saturday, August 09, 2008


Barack Obama Has Dual Citizenship: America And Kenya

Here’s something I didn’t know about Barack Obama from a Rocky Mountain News article full of things you may, or may not, know about Barry O.

Holds both American and Kenyan (since 1963) citizenship.

Significance?  I don’t know. 

Obama, if elected, wouldn’t be the first President who wasn’t exclusively an American.  Presidents George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, and Andrew Jackson were all born before America won its independence from Great Britain and were citizens of the British Empire.  Martin Van Buren, actually, was the first President to be born after independence.

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How much in taxes does Barry pay to Kenya?


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Kevin on August 9, 2008 at 09:00 pm
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Barack Hussein Obama was “selected” by the DNC and biased media.  Hillary helped him get his Senate seat and he stabbed her in the back. 

Jeremiah Wright said Obama is a typical politician who will say and do anything to get what he wants. 

Is he all he “pretends” to be?  He has based his entire campaign on lies.  He has lost all credibility.  I do not trust him.

I’m voting for McCain in 2008.

EAST COAST on August 9, 2008 at 09:13 pm

Enough already!!!!!!!!!

ollie-B on August 9, 2008 at 09:13 pm

omg
first, a politician lying, thats unheard of. 
Second, what is he lying about, why do you not trust him?
Third, i didn’t realize this but McCain doesn’t lie, ever, it turns out he is an angel sent from heaven to rid America of its sins, but at the same time will leave us in Iraq until we win a civil war between Shiites and Sunnis (thats not possible).  So while you are voting for McCain just remember that the economy will continue to deteriorate and you will end up in Iraq. 
fourth, Barack stabbing Hillary in the back, technically America voted for him so technically America stabbed Hilary in the back.

soup91 on August 9, 2008 at 11:47 pm
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soup91 said: “and you will end up in Iraq”

Sorry to break it to you, but we’re already there.

Anonymous on August 10, 2008 at 04:09 am
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If I had a dollar for every time that the media was wrong about a basic fact, I’d be a gazzillionaire. The Rocky Mountain News Service is clearly WRONG on this. Expect a correction soon.

First, Obama is NOT a dual citizen. There are some wing nuts out there trying to spread this rumor but that dog wont hunt. He’s never been qualified to be a citizen of Kenya.

As Section 90 of the Constitution of Kenya states that:-

A Person born outside Kenya AFTER (emphasis added) 11th December, 1963 shall become a citizen of Kenya at the date of his/her birth if at that date his/her father was a citizen of Kenya.

Do the math, Obama was born in 1961, making him unqualified for citizenship under this law. See for yourself:

http://www.kenyahighcommission.net/passports.html

For anyone who wants to further belabor the point:

The Kenya Constitution Section 97 (1) (6) (a) states that:

Any person who, upon the attainment of the age of twenty-one years, is a citizen of Kenya and also a citizen of another country other than Kenya shall cease to be a citizen of Kenya upon the specified date (6)(a) that is: twenty-three (23) years.

Even if at some point Obama’s father applied for citizenship for him (which has never been suggested or shown to be true), he would have lost it at age 23, since he was born in the U.S.

Let the wing nuts play their rumor games, but McCain is not going to make it in 2008, and will crash just like “Mr. Viagra” Bob Dole crashed in 1996. I should know, I was on McCain’s delegate list in 2000.

Bud on August 10, 2008 at 05:07 am

He may be a Kenya resident, but Barack Hussein Obama has never submitted proof he is an American citizen. A fraudulent birth certificate has been posted on his Fight the Smears website. It is not certified by the state of Hawaii with the state’s official seal and registrar’s signature. So I seriously doubt he is a U.S. citizen or legally qualified to run for President. Obama’s campaign will not respond to multiple requests for him to submit an official birth certificate. If he had one, I would think he would put this to rest once and for all.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71763


‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

JazzyKat on August 10, 2008 at 06:18 am

Significance?  I don’t know.

Yawn. then throw that factoid into a meaty post.


For truth is named after the daughter of time, not of authority.

-Francis Bacon

Sparkie Arbuckle on August 10, 2008 at 06:21 am

My position is that everyone in the world should have dual citizenships, of even three.


For truth is named after the daughter of time, not of authority.

-Francis Bacon

Sparkie Arbuckle on August 10, 2008 at 06:41 am

That FACTOID is anywhere on the web where intelligent people seek the truth and don’t just follow the pack of mindless droids who bow at the feet of “The One” ingesting the crumbs of his meaningless rhetoric of “Change.”


‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

JazzyKat on August 10, 2008 at 06:54 am

JazzyKat
Nice vitriol! Are you a playwright? Shakespearean dramatist?

The melodrama is too much.


For truth is named after the daughter of time, not of authority.

-Francis Bacon

Sparkie Arbuckle on August 10, 2008 at 06:57 am

Well you’re good with one-liners…but no substance Sparkie.

“Grant me the serenity to ignore the trolls,
the courage to debate with honest opponents,
and the wisdom to know the difference.”


‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

JazzyKat on August 10, 2008 at 07:04 am

Sorry to break it to you, but we’re already there./quote]

i meant you personally

soup91 on August 10, 2008 at 08:15 am

JazzyKat
You are calling me a troll? Not wholly…
I have a dual citizenship.


For truth is named after the daughter of time, not of authority.

-Francis Bacon

Sparkie Arbuckle on August 10, 2008 at 08:20 am

JazzyKat

...but no substance Sparkie

You are rooting for one wrestler, believing him to be the personification of the good, and claiming the other is a farce… when they are both just wrestlers.

Carry on, ‘mark’.


For truth is named after the daughter of time, not of authority.

-Francis Bacon

Sparkie Arbuckle on August 10, 2008 at 08:40 am

A man with dual allegiance running for President of this country?  Why would anyone think that is a good idea?  What about the Oath of Office?


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 10, 2008 at 09:32 am

With any luck, Obama won’t be taking the oath.


“Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other vews.

William F. Buckley Jr.

pparets on August 10, 2008 at 09:38 am

How much in taxes does Barry pay to Kenya?

Kevin on August 9, 2008 at 09:00 pm

Who knows? Why don’t you ask him, and then report back to us.

ellinas on August 10, 2008 at 09:48 am

Sorry to break it to you, but we’re already there.


Anonymous on August 10, 2008 at 04:09 am

We? Who is this we shit? Are you there? Are any of the bloggers here on SAB “already there”?

ellinas on August 10, 2008 at 09:52 am

With any luck, Obama won’t be taking the oath.

Let’s hope McCain doesn’t leave it up to luck; he needs to run a strong campaign on real American principles, and to give the American people a real choice, rather than “I’m not as bad as Obama”.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 10, 2008 at 09:53 am

He may be a Kenya resident, but Barack Hussein Obama has never submitted proof he is an American citizen. A fraudulent birth ..............If he had one, I would think he would put this to rest once and for all.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71763
JazzyKat on August 10, 2008 at 06:18 am

JazzyKat you are a crazy cat. If you feel so strongly about the issue why don’t you and others with similar ideas take BHO to court?

ellinas on August 10, 2008 at 09:59 am

More leftie squealing about exposing Obama’s bullshit!

Great stuff!


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 10, 2008 at 10:07 am

Golly Wally, I sure hope I don’t have to put a bone in my nose.

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I read that Obama will make us all wear those colorful Kenyan hats once he is elected.


Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele


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realitybasedbob on August 10, 2008 at 02:10 pm
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I heard McCain was born in Canada.  Weeeeeee…this is fun.

Hannitized on August 10, 2008 at 02:38 pm

I heard McCain was born in Canada. Weeeeeee…this is fun.

The Canal Zone; not even close.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 10, 2008 at 02:50 pm

So, sanni, you are telling us that Barack Hussein Obama is a liar?


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2Hotel9 on August 10, 2008 at 02:51 pm
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Shoot anyone today 2Hotel?

Hannitized on August 10, 2008 at 04:23 pm

Still waiting for you to prove that Time did not print"An Antichrist Obama in McCain Ad?”. Well? Hello? McFly?!? Anyone home?


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2Hotel9 on August 10, 2008 at 06:18 pm

Still waiting for you to prove that Time did not print"An Antichrist Obama in McCain Ad?”. Well? Hello? McFly?!? Anyone home?

And let’s not forget prove that we’re liars. Since there’s money in it for him and all.

He doesn’t wanna take the challenge.


It’s all political bullshit. Liberals (and Robert108) lie and spin and twist and obscure and distract and cheat to protect their guys and hurt the opposing team. It’s like wrestling. They distract the ref while their team mate hits you with a chair. There’s no rule they won’t break, no law they won’t skirt, no crime they won’t forgive as long as they can win.

Kenny on August 10, 2008 at 08:44 pm
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You guys are idiots.  The title is a question, you even admit it, but then you claim that your physic powers tell you it is a statement.

How can you have an intelligent conversation with people who deny reality?

Hannitized on August 10, 2008 at 09:13 pm
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Ecuse me, I meant accusation.

Hannitized on August 10, 2008 at 09:16 pm

And you still have not proven that they did not say it.


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2Hotel9 on August 11, 2008 at 02:29 am
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2Hotel, you still haven’t proven that they did not ask it.

Hannitized on August 11, 2008 at 10:25 am

Tick toc, the clock is running, cabbie.


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2Hotel9 on August 11, 2008 at 04:36 pm

Oh, and you calling your Jesus a liar is quite comical.


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2Hotel9 on August 11, 2008 at 04:37 pm
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Did anyone bother to check their facts?

McCain was born in Panama and he also has never submitted proof that he is a US citizen either.

It is so sad to see the level of racism that still exsists in this country. No one minds that Arnold Schwarzenegger was born and raised in another country. Is that because he is a Republican, White or it was a “western country”?  That makes him ok to run an entire state, because he is so “American”.  I guess the definition of being American is basically, white and republican.

andrea on August 12, 2008 at 09:29 pm

Put a sock in it, Andrea!!!  McCain was born on a US military base in the US-held Panama Canal zone, and not, legally in Panama as you’ve stated.  He is thus, by law, considered a native-born American.

As for that “racism” charge, I don’t believe you’ll find a whole lot of folks who really care much about that tripe any more.  Like Aesop’s boy who cried “Wolf”, the Left’s habit of screaming “racism” whenever confronted with criticism you cannot deflect or obfuscate has become a parody of frustration and self-induced tremulous angst.

Find another adjective.  That one has lost its pertinence, its urgency and with it, much of its audience as well.


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on August 12, 2008 at 09:54 pm
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Did anyone bother to check their facts? It has been proven false.

McCain was born in Panama and he also has never submitted proof that he is a US citizen either.  Atleast Obama was born in the US.

It is so sad to see the level of racism that still exsists in this country. No one minds that Arnold Schwarzenegger was born and raised in another country. Is that because he is a Republican, White or it was a “western country”?  That makes him ok to run an entire state, because he is so “American”.  I guess the definition of being American is basically, white and republican.  Why to double standard?

andrea on August 12, 2008 at 09:55 pm

Arnie can’t be President, because he is not a natural-born citizen of this country, but he can hold any other public office.  It has nothing to do with race.

To repeat, McCain was born to American parents in the Panama Canal Zone, which was US territory at that time, since Carter hadn’t given it to the Chinese yet.

No double standard at all.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 12, 2008 at 09:58 pm
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Bat one?

It is alway so refreshing to hear someone who is not a minority comment on the validity of racism.  Yes racism is still alive and well in this country.  So come down from your high white tower and ask a few darker colored people if racism, how did you put it “has become a parody of frustration and self-induced tremulous angst.”

My opinion, no matter how old, is my opinion and that makes it as valid as yours—-so you put a sock in it!

I see you avoided entirely the issue of false facts and Americans being ok electing Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Run out of words in your thesaurus?  Or did you not have anyone to plagorize on that topic?

andrea on August 12, 2008 at 10:12 pm
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except according to the State Department Kenya doesn’t offer dual citizenship

Jesus Christ the right is dumb

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1151.html

You Idiot! on August 12, 2008 at 10:21 pm

Yes racism is still alive and well in this country.

Wrong.  America is the least racist country in the world, except for the institutional racism in the Dems/lefties.  They play racism on every issue.
Nobody has any trouble with Arnie, because his foreign birth isn’t a problem with any elective office except for President.  You should educate yourself.
Just because you see everything in terms of skin color, doesn’t mean everybody else does; you’re projecting.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 12, 2008 at 10:32 pm

My opinion, no matter how old, is my opinion and that makes it as valid as
yours—-so you put a sock in it!

Another confused leftie; this is a matter of fact, not opinion, and you have the facts wrong.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 12, 2008 at 10:33 pm
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It is amazing all this Bull about Obama being a dual citizen.  We went to war on the policies of Fieth, Wolfowitz and likes who are all dual citizens (Israelis) and what about McLieberman?  And how can we forget that Panamanian born dude?  So dumb u right wing numb nuts.

Clement on August 12, 2008 at 10:37 pm
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ok robert108, i was commenting on his comment that racism is an old topic, that is an opinion! unless you have some factual data to back it up.

oh btw read this http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/12/racism.poll/index.html—bat one and tell me if my opinion is valid or tired.

and yes my opinion is as valid as any one else’s on this topic.

connect the dots and learn how to read some ones comments so you do not embarrass yourself again!

you misinformed arrogant closed minded idiot!

andrea on August 12, 2008 at 10:57 pm

and yes my opinion is as valid as any one else’s on this topic.

Heh, that’s debatable.

Ken McCracken on August 12, 2008 at 11:00 pm

andrea proves, yet again, that racism is alive and well in the Democrat Party.

And idiot, Kenya has changed governments 4 times since Barri was born.

Clement, thanks for once again tossing a heaping helping of your personal racism and Joohate. So common of racist, antisemitic Democrats. Show us some more, leftards.


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2Hotel9 on August 13, 2008 at 04:46 am

It is alway so refreshing to hear someone who is not a minority comment on the validity of racism.  Yes racism is still alive and well in this country.  So come down from your high white tower and ask a few darker colored people if racism, how did you put it “has become a parody of frustration and self-induced tremulous angst.”

Ahhh yes.  The ‘All animals are equal, but SOME animals are more equal than others’ argument.  - As if you have to be a ‘more equal’ animal to comment on a subject.

How wonderfully Orwellian of you.

Sluggo on August 13, 2008 at 05:23 am

My opinion, no matter how old, is my opinion and that makes it as valid as yours—-so you put a sock in it!

...and yes my opinion is as valid as any one else’s on this topic.

andrea,

Apparently there is a substantial disparity in reading comprehension in this country.  No doubt that too is the result of racism?

Please rest assured, you are “entitled” to whatever opinion suits your fancy… however silly it may be.  What you are NOT entitled to is an accepting audience for that silly opinion.

There is little doubt that racism, at least as most people would define the term, does exist in this country.  But to say that questions of Barack Obama are racist, and to do so comparing the circumstances of his birth to those of either McCain or Arnold Schwarzenegger is just plain stupid, and totally unworthy of any credence whatsoever.

Governor Schwarzenegger is a former Austrian citizen who came to this country as a legal immigrant, became a US citizen and made a huge success of himself.  Neither the US Constitution nor the California state constitution contains an restriction on such an individual serving as that state’s Governor.  So using him as a focal point of your specious comparison is bogus, and again, unworthy of any serious consideration by anyone.

As for the young Mr. Obama, the “birth certificate” copy posted on the internet is apparently not genuine, although to be fair that document was not released by either Obama or his campaign staff.  On the other hand, he has not released a real birth certificate either (of course, John Kerry never released all his military records as he promised on numerous occasions!).

Those of you on the Left are going to have to get beyond the notion that everything that you find disagreeable, offensive, inconvenient or unfair is the result of White, conservative racism.  In case you haven’t been paying attention, your boy candidate has spent the past year and a half trumpeting the “fact” that he is a “post-racial”, “post-partisan” candidate.  Yet his campaign and his supporters behave as though these assertions are really just so much leftist bullshit.  Meanwhile, his poll numbers continue their steady decline.

If you want to blame all the country’s ills (as you perceive them) on White racism, go right ahead… have yourself a racial pity party.  Just don’t you dare expect the rest of us to fall in line line like so many good little guilty soldiers.  That ain’t happenin’.

And while you’re at it, you might want to bear in mind just what happened to the little boy in that Aesop fable I mentioned.  He was ultimately consumed by the very danger he so cavalierly spouted off about.  Have a nice day!


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on August 13, 2008 at 07:05 am
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It is sad how much time is wasted on trivial matters.  We should be discussing poverty, education, the economy, Iraq, the environment, alternate energy and health care.

Bat one I never intended to dispute the legality of
Arnie running for governor, my issue was with the fact that no one ever questioned is ability to represent Americans given the location of his birth and upbringing. Why is that? Is it because he is rich, a repug or white—-or that his political views were similar to yours? 

I understand that the Obama campaign feels that if it focuses on race they will be attacked just as I have, that is called “a good plan”.  But that does not mean it is not still an issue. 

I know that this issue will never be fixed, there will always be people who can only feel good about themselves by making others feel unimportant and insignificant (you seem to fit this category).

and again MY OPINION DOES MATTER. JUST AS MUCH AS YOURS. I NEVER ATTACKED YOU OR YOUR OPINION, JUST STATED MY OPINION. YOU WERE THE JECK WHO DECIDED TO TELL ME TO PUT A SOCK IN IT WHICH I WILL NOT SO BITE ME YOU CLOSED MINDED FOOL!

AND YOUR HAVE A NICE DAY ALSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! btw I really do not mean that.

andrea on August 13, 2008 at 07:55 am

and yes my opinion is as valid as any one else’s on this topic.

Wrong again!  With opinions, validity is not an issue; like assholes, everybody has at least one opinion.  What matters about opinions in a discussion is whether they agree with the facts or not.  Little children have opinions on everything as well, but they aren’t all that valuable because, like your childlike ramblings, they are based on a very narrow and uninformed worldview.
You are a racist, because you evaluate everything in your own narrow-minded racial terms.
The conservatives on this blog, as well as conservatives in general, are far less racist then you and your leftie comrades.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 13, 2008 at 08:08 am

AND YOUR HAVE A NICE DAY ALSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! btw I really do not mean
that.

Of course you don’t; you’re a leftie liar.  BTW, what’s a “jeck”?
What’s your level of education?


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 13, 2008 at 08:10 am

Andrea,

Okay.  Its a slow morning for me anyhow.

First, you post a comment decrying racism, or at least your perception of racism.  And then you come back with this bit of ethnocentric nonsense,

...my issue was with the fact that no one ever questioned (h)is ability to represent Americans given the location of his birth and upbringing. Why is that?

It appear to me that the only “wolf” in the room is the one which you have become.

Still, to answer your question, the only opinions that matter regarding Mr. Schwartzenegger are those of the voters of California.  And given his margins of electoral victory I’d say any questions about his “ability to represent Americans,” at least those in California, have been settled by those whose opinions actually matter.

...there will always be people who can only feel good about themselves by making others feel unimportant and insignificant (you seem to fit this category).

This is an interesting accusation.  Wrong, but interesting.  My purpose here has nothing to do with feelings, yours or my own.  I’m not interested in making you, or anyone else, feel “unimportant and insignificant” or for that matter, important and significant.  What I write is based, for the most part, on what I think, not my feelings, not yours.

I think that accusations of racism have been vastly overused, and overrated, by those on the Left, intending to guilt-trip the rest of us into overlooking their own intellectual dishonesty.  Kinda like a pre-pubescent demi-teen whining to her mother that all the other girls in school get to wear lipstick and makeup.

There are plenty of issue-based reasons to oppose Barack Obama’s candidacy, as well as legitimate question about his character, his past associations, and his murky, virtually non-existent resume.  Yet it is his supporters who conveniently bring up charges of racism whenever they are faced with difficult or inconvenient questions… as you did here.

Finally, your tantrum is telling, though hardly of any consequence.  I can’t imagine that I will sleep any less well this evening for having been called a “JERK” or a “CLOSED MINDED FOOL.”  Particularly considering the source.

But if it will make you feel any better, I’ll be glad to put in a good word for you with your Mom about the lipstick.


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on August 13, 2008 at 08:38 am

It never ceases to amaze me that people can choose to be so blind. The race card is always dealt from the bottom of the deck to cloud the legitimate issues raised against Obama. I don’t care what color he is, he’s a phony politician using his race to set himself apart and above the rest of the pack. Being black, red, green or white doesn’t qualify you to serve in the highest office of the land. You better have some experience under your belt to be Commander in Chief.

He’s not black, (he’s a white & black mixture of Kenya descent without a one speck of proof he’s an American citizen) but above that, he is as green as they come. The only experience he has under his belt is playing footsies with domestic terrorists like Ayres and sitting in the pew of an Anti-American racist preacher for 20 years. Smooth rhetoric, yes…experience, NO! He’s sat in congress for under one term and thinks he can run this country. What a hoot! He’ll run it alright…right into the ground!

Andrea - You want FACTS?...you can’t handle the FACTS!...Nor will you investigate the FACTS! You’re too busy being blinded by a smooth lying politician. Anyone who votes for this man is a naive fool!

Barack Hussein Obama is a Marxist, Facists and Racist politician. He cut his teeth on Marxist/Communist propaganda and spent his adult years in a Racist church. He will destroy the very fabric of America’s freedom if he’s elected President.

http://theobamafile.com/

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12956.htm


‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

JazzyKat on August 13, 2008 at 10:28 am

Nutters crack me up.


Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

robert108 on May 18, 2009 at 03:23 pm

“You have absolutely no reason, none, to trust our word or our actions at this point.”

Titular gop Head Mr. Steele


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realitybasedbob on August 13, 2008 at 10:31 am

You keep saying this, and yet you are the only nutter in this thread.


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2Hotel9 on August 13, 2008 at 05:14 pm
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Bat one—-aka rat zero and robert 108 (is that your IQ? 90 - 109 - Normal or average intelligence)

So you decided to not touch the issues that I opened with in my last post and went right for attacking me——really big of you and so insightful.

I personally have no problem with the nationality of who runs our country——any one who is not a repug would be fine with me. So save your comments about me being ethnocentric—-your the zenophobe.  Foreigners do not bother me, since I lived in 5 countries and visited dozens more.  Again, (read this slowly so you can understand it)my point was that no one freaked out about Arnie’s ability to serve and represent his fellow Americans based on his place of birth and up bringing, but the same feelings are not held for Obama’s up bringing, even though he was born in the US. 

And do not be worry, it would be impossible for me to be racist since both of my parents are white and I am not.

I consider myself socialist so actually Obama is very tame and mild for me.

Again, my opinion does count and you can keep saying otherwise, did you notice that not once have I said that your opinion does not count, but everyone is so afraid and freaked out when a black/white/native american woman has the nerve to call some of “us” whites racist—-“quick get a rope and find the nearest tree”

Respect others opinions——it is our right and I will use my right until I die and I will respect your opinion no matter how wrong I think they are. SMILE

And if you need help talking your mom into letting you use her lipstick and wear her high heels, tell her to call me.

Argueing politics on the internet is like participating in the special olympics, you may win, but your still a retard.

andrea on August 13, 2008 at 07:00 pm

So you decided to not touch the issues that I opened with in my last post and went right for attacking me——really big of you and so insightful.

We refuted your “issues”; thoroughly.

You’re obviously just another leftie race card player.
Never said your opinion doesn’t count; you’re the only one who has said that; we just proved your opinions are wrong.  You don’t have the facts right.  I don’t respect opinions that are ill-founded or just outright wrong.  If you want respect for your opinions, be sure they have meaning, and have facts to back them up.

If you’re a retard, I feel sorry for you.

You are a racist if you judge people on the basis of their race.  Being non-white is no protection against being a racist; the vast majority of racists on this Earth are not white.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 13, 2008 at 07:20 pm

the same feelings are not held for Obama’s up bringing, even though he was born in the US

There is no proof of that.


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Kevin on August 13, 2008 at 07:24 pm

Barack Obama Has Dual Citizenship: America And Kenya

Bat one—-aka rat zero and robert 108 (is that your IQ? 90 - 109 - Normal or average intelligence)

I personally have no problem with the nationality of who runs our country——

any one who is not a repug would be fine with me.

any one who is not a repug

would be fine with me.

Shallow cunt, aren’t you babe?


At least when George Bush was reading My Pet Goat, he genuinely had no idea Manhattan was being terrorized. And it wasn’t by his own plane.

Spartacus on August 13, 2008 at 07:26 pm

Geez Proof,

Looks like Andrea has given you lots of fodder.  And that’s just spelling and grammar.

My favorite is the self-proclamation as a Socialist.

That speaks volumes to me.  Either she doesn’t know the depth of depravity and evil that Socialism represents, or worse yet, knows and doesn’t care.


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At least when George Bush was reading My Pet Goat, he genuinely had no idea Manhattan was being terrorized. And it wasn’t by his own plane.

Spartacus on August 13, 2008 at 07:32 pm

He will destroy the very fabric of America’s freedom if he’s elected President.

JazzyKat on August 13, 2008 at 10:28 am

I bet you $1,000 he will not destroy the very fabric of America’s freedom if he’s elected President.

ellinas on August 13, 2008 at 08:31 pm

“Argueing politics on the internet is like participating in the special olympics, you may win, but your still a retard.”
. .
. What a nice statement….from a chick, no less!
/Who lit the fuse on her tampon?!


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RebTex on August 13, 2008 at 09:24 pm

Andrea,

Dear Lord, where to begin with you?

Okay, first, I have not attacked you as you claim.  Certainly not to the extent of calling you a “JERK” or a “CLOSED MINDED FOOL” or “RETARD” or any other such names as you have done.  Or had you forgotten about that?  Here’s a suggestion.  Dial back on the ad hominem... that’s name calling.  There are times when it is sparingly appropriate, but like alcohol or pot, it can easily become a crutch, and loses its effectiveness with overuse.  Learn to be a little bit creative with your insults.  Someone who has lived in 5 countries and visited “dozens more” should be far more literate than what you’ve demonstrated here… especially with so broad a range of experiences to draw on.  Simplistic name-calling is so pedestrian.

Nor have I said that your opinions don’t matter.  They’re pretty much wrong, its true, but that doesn’t mean they don’t matter.  To you, obviously, they matter.  But understand that if you are going to express those opinions publicly in a forum such as this, it would be foolish not to expect them to be challenged.  You have every right to hold and express your opinions, as do we all.  But there is no right to an audience, and certainly not an agreeable one.  If that doesn’t suit you, perhaps the DailyKos would be more your speed.  They would certainly be more ideologically agreeable (they don’t seem to care much that socialism is a proven failure), nor are they concerned if your comments aren’t especially literate or well thought out.

The only issue you’ve brought up was the question of Mr. Schwartzenegger and his qualification to “represent the American people” due to his foreign birth and upbringing.  Of course, he is constitutionally banned from representing the American people, as the Presidency is reserved for natural born citizens, but as I pointed out he seems to have done well with the people of California, so your “issue” is really a non-issue, or if you prefer, moot.

Finally, again, racism.  The easy answer is that I really don’t care.  Most such accusations and discussions are without any serious foundation and consequently boring.  But beside that, Obama has declared himself a “post-racial candidate.”  Now, like quite nearly everything else he’s stated, that is unadulterated, weapons-grade bullshit, but in this one instance I prefer to risk taking him at his word.


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Bat One on August 13, 2008 at 09:45 pm

“I consider myself socialist so actually Obama is very tame and mild for me.”

Once you declare yourself a socialist your opinion no longer matters. End of story.

And yes, you are one of the most racist commentors to toddle through here in quite some time. You may leave now, we are done with you.


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2Hotel9 on August 14, 2008 at 03:33 am

And as for Barri being born in the US, how was he raised from birth to age 7 in Indonesia, then brought to Hawaii. Was he not born until age 7?


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...it would be impossible for me to be racist since both of my parents are white and I am not.

Racists come in all colors. It is a state of mind disassociated from one’s race. It is therefore, NOT impossible for you to be a racist based on what color or race either you or your parents were. Highly unlikely, perhaps, but not impossible.


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Proof on August 14, 2008 at 05:09 am

andrea, just a little facts would help you out.  I collected stamps as a youngster.  I still have some from the Panama Canal Zone.  Yes, it was given away by Jimmy. 

Racism, in my opinion is still alive and well in Jeremia Wright’s Church and in the “community”  I taught school and saw every person and their “parents”  Most have gotten past this stuff, but many hold on to it like JJ and Al.  Too bad they continue to spread their disease to every one else, but some are more intelligent and reject their emotional sthick.


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Chief RZ on August 14, 2008 at 06:19 am

Now, here is a question someone mentioned to me this week.  Any answers?
Is BHO a chain smoker of cigarettes?  I have not seen one picture or video of this.  If true, it would remind us of the newspapers not showing FDR in his wheelchair.


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Chief RZ on August 14, 2008 at 06:38 am

...it would be impossible for me to be racist since both of my parents are white and I am not.

In fact, that is a racist statement; it expresses superiority due only to skin color and racial identity.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 14, 2008 at 08:58 am

RZ:  Obama does smoke.  Whether he is a chain-smoker is up for grabs.

Like many politicians, he tries to keep photos of his personal habits out of view.


“Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other vews.

William F. Buckley Jr.

pparets on August 14, 2008 at 09:06 am

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“Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other vews.

William F. Buckley Jr.

pparets on August 14, 2008 at 09:09 am

Early in his campaign, he claimed that he had quit smoking.  I think the MSM is covering for him.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 14, 2008 at 09:21 am
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Kenya does NOT ALLOW DUAL CITIZENSHIP after age 21. If you do not renounce your other citizenship at age 21, you automatically cease to be a citizen of Kenya. Obama never renounced his US citizenship, and therefore automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship at age 21. Here is a link to the Constitution of Kenya - specifically addressing dual citizenship:

http://kenya.rcbowen.com/constitution/chap6.html#97

James Michaels on August 21, 2008 at 09:53 pm

omg
he smokes

pssst. i heard he wears ladies underwear.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on August 21, 2008 at 10:05 pm
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