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Barack Obama Doesn’t Like White People

From the lips of the messiah himself:

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He is a racist.  His membership in a racist church that preached separtism for 20 years should be enough.  This man has a major chip on his shoulder.  He needs help.


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Chief RZ on June 9, 2008 at 07:16 am
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Don’t too far ahead of yourself Chief. 

Rob’s pet video is selecting certain clips where Obama is quoting others, not himself.  It’s also taken out of context in that the book is about how he grew to understand racism and why it doesn’t fit within his reality.

There is not one real racist quote in this clip.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 08:18 am

He is a racist.

Chief,

While I don’t disagree with you, there are plenty of policy based reasons to oppose Barack Obama and the Democrats as essentially bad for America.  Those of us on/in The Right who DO have principles (as opposed to those on the Left who don’t) need to leave the personal insults to those lefties who essentially have nothing else to offer.

For example, increasing taxes on “big oil” companies will only raise the retail price of gasoline that much higher (and home heating oil come winter!), while raising taxes on Americans in general and the companies large and small that employ us will only diminish our nation’s economic growth.  Raising taxes on capital (dividends and cap gains) reduces capital investment for both new corporations and more mature ones, while diminishing the wealth potential of all of us who own equities via IRAs, 401-Ks, SEPs, 529s, HSAs, and other investment vehicles, and Obama’s plan to “fix” the pending unfunded liability catastrophe in Social Security won’t do any such thing.

We don’t need to sink to the level of those on the Left who have nothing to offer but insults and invective.  Again, I don’t disagree with your conclusion, but Wright’s “God Damn America!” speech says it all far more eloquently.


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Bat One on June 9, 2008 at 08:47 am

No reasonable, intelligent voter can doubt that Barak has a negative view of whites and will be a racist; that is a pro-black POTUS: but, (1) These were brief quotes, not comments offered in context and thus many can easily be explained away. (2) I could easily defend some of these statements based on the past racism in White America, as it is easy to understand how some of these opinions could be formed. (3) No black person or white liberal will ever change their views about messiah Obama based on these quotations, as they all believe them all to be essentially true.

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Neiman on June 9, 2008 at 10:21 am

There is not one real racist quote in this clip.

True; they’re all racist.  Every time he says “white people” or “white folks”, he’s being racist. Those are his words, btw.  He’s quoting his own book, in many instances.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 10:31 am
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Have you actually read his book?

Probably not, it’s easier just to take passages from the book out of context if you don’t bother to read it.

Totally irresponsoble.

Hawk on June 9, 2008 at 10:52 am
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White people think Obama is a racist.  Is that racist too?

Now, take this example:

Wright said that whites are racist against blacks.

Now clip it.

..whites are racist against blacks.

There! 

That is all this video is.  Just timely editing to make things appear differently then they actually are.  But why would you guys admit to your lies?  You never have, never will.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 10:57 am

Have you actually read his book?

Why would I want to read a book from a racist whiner who blames “white people” for all his problems?
Every time he says “white folks” or “white people”, he’s being racist.  When he calls his grandmother “a typical white person”, he’s not only being an ungrateful little snot, he’s being a racist.
His own words convict him.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 11:07 am
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Robert,

You said “White Folks” (4) times in that sentence you complete schmuck!!!

You are doing the exact same thing Obama did in his book.  Talk about others using words.  All examples that were cited in this video are experts where Obama was quoting others....as you are.

Twit!

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 11:12 am
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Why would I want to read a book from a racist whiner who blames “white people” for all his problems?

So you could comment intelligently on it.  But why would you want to do that?  It’s never stopped you from commenting before.

Hawk on June 9, 2008 at 11:13 am

Hawk, angry teen: No factual or logical counter-arguments, I see…

Obama was reading from his own book; are you trying to claim that he’s not responsible for what’s in his own book?  Amazing.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 11:23 am
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Hawk,

Notice he said “White People” twice, “White person” and “White folks” for a total sum of (4) “racist” terms, according to his feeble mind.

Can you believe the irony of that?

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 11:25 am

You are doing the exact same thing Obama did in his book.

No, I’m not; are you really that stupid?  It’s not racist to point out the racism of someone else.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 11:25 am
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No, I’m not; are you really that stupid? It’s not racist to point out the racism of someone else.

What do you think Obama’s book was doing? 

In each of those examples Obama was talking about what other people were saying, or how they thought and his responses and reactions to them, and how he learned NOT to be a racist.  Jeezus!

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 11:27 am
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Why don’t we just elect Bill Cosby?

Besides his humor, I like the way he thinks.  From what I understand, he wants everyone to take responsibility for themselves and their own actions (and ultimately, what they do with their lives).  There is no talk of racism or discrimination or victimization.  A leader like Bill Cosby could really unify split cultures--not drive the wedge in deeper.

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Here is the complete context of the first clip (lie).

“”At least on the basketball court I could find a community of sorts, with an inner life all its own. It was there that I would make my closest white friends, on turf where blackness couldn’t be a disadvantage. And it was there that I would meet Ray and the other blacks close to my age who had begun to trickle into the islands, teenagers whose confusion and anger would help shape my own.

“That’s just how white folks will do you,” one of them might say when we were alone. Everybody would chuckle, and my mind would run down a ledger of slights: the first boy, in seventh grade, who called me a coon; his tears of surprise (“Why’dya do that?”) when I gave him a bloody nose. The tennis pro who told me that I shouldn’t touch the schedule of matches pinned to the bulletin board because my colour might rub off; his thin-lipped, red-faced smile – “Can’t you take a joke?” – when I threatened to report him.

That’s just how white folks will do you. It wasn’t merely the cruelty involved; I was learning that black people could be mean and then some. It was a particular brand of arrogance, an obtuseness in otherwise sane people that brought forth our bitter laughter. It was as if whites didn’t know that they were being cruel in the first place. Or at least thought you deserving of their scorn. White folks. The term itself was uncomfortable in my mouth at first; I felt like a nonnative speaker tripping over a difficult phrase. Sometimes I would find myself talking to Ray about white folks this or white folks that, and I would suddenly remember my mother’s smile and the words that I spoke would seem awkward and false. Or I would be helping Gramps dry the dishes after dinner and Toot [his grandmother] would come in to say that she was going to sleep, and those same words – white folks – would flash in my head like a bright neon sign, and I would suddenly grow quiet, as if I had secrets to keep.

Later, when I was alone, I would try to untangle these difficult thoughts. It was obvious that certain whites could be exempted from the general category of our distrust: Ray was always telling me how cool my grandparents were. The term white was simply a shorthand for him, I decided, a tag for what my mother would call a bigot. And although I recognised the risks in his terminology – Ray assured me that we would never talk about whites as whites in front of whites without knowing exactly what we were doing. Without knowing that there might be a price to pay. But was that right? Was there still a price to pay? That was the complicated part, the thing that Ray and I never could seem to agree on.”

If that is racism, then I am a hippopotamus.

This book is about how he grew up and learned how NOT to be a racist.

You guys are lying fools.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 11:41 am

Hannitized.  I am not debating you.  Here are your words.

There is not one real racist quote in this clip.

This is like my saying that there are not real tortures in the 3rd world.  The real tortures are done in communist countries.
All.  I am not name calling, but making the point.  An observation that many others have also made, including Dr. Thomas Sowell. 

This is from the linked here:  “Sen. Obama, why have you been following an anti-white, American-hating pastor for the last 20 years?”

Now, I have previously posted why I would not vote for BHO, and it also includes his communist ideas and association with the domestic terrorists who bombed US buildings including the pentagon.


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Chief RZ on June 9, 2008 at 11:42 am

If that is racism, then I am a hippopotamus.

Whatever you say; I always thought you were an angry teenager, and now it turns out you’re a hippopotamus; who knew?

His entire context is to evaluate himself and others in terms of their skin color.  He is the epitome of a racist.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 11:51 am

In each of those examples Obama was talking about what other people were saying, or how they thought and his responses and reactions to them, and
how he learned NOT to be a racist. Jeezus!

Another lie from you; he called his grandmother “a typical white person”.  Spin that.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 12:03 pm
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His entire context is to evaluate himself and others in terms of their skin color.  He is the epitome of a racist.

Yes, because the white kids belittled him for his skin color.  As you said, it is not racist to recognize racism.  At some point you need to recognize how skin color is the factor that helps you realize that you are black and white people treat you like shit.

Helloooo.....McFly??

he called his grandmother “a typical white person”.  Spin that.

Even Chris Wallace thinks the issue is being distorted.  Only a pud would be offended by that remark.

http://showhype.com/video/chris_wallace_takes_fox_friends_to_task_over_obama/

All the stationary world looks off when you are twirling yourself in circles.  How am I supposed to explain colors to a blind person?

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 12:14 pm
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Not debating you on this Chief, but let me rephrase my remark.

Barack Obama did not make one racist remark on that clip, where he was not quoting someone else, for the sake of being racist.  He quoted others in an effort to show how he did not end up being a racist or a person who is on the wrong side of handling issues that relate to skin color.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 12:21 pm

Even Chris Wallace thinks the issue is being distorted.  Only a pud would be offended by that remark.

Non-responsive; Obama used a racial stereotype in referring to his grandmother. Nice avoidance, though.

His entire thinking is based on evaluation by skin color.  That is the epitome of racism.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 12:27 pm

Angry teen: Maybe Obama was criticized for being an asshole, or for not being able to speak effectively without a teleprompter, or because he moves like a little girl; in any case, he made it about race, probably to avoid dealing with the real criticism, which was about the way he conducts himself.
He’s a racist, through and through, and his campaign and background is all about racism.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 12:29 pm
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Hawk, angry teen: No factual or logical counter-arguments, I see…
Obama was reading from his own book; are you trying to claim that he’s not responsible for what’s in his own book?  Amazing.

My counter argument is that this was taken out of context.  I am sure neither you and presumably Rob has read the book, so you can’t discuss this intelligently.  You can just take small clips out of context for the purposes of smearing Obama.

It is dishonest and irresponsible.  But I expect nothing more from you.

Hawk on June 9, 2008 at 12:33 pm

Notice the drumbeat continues. Race. That is all Democrats have, take race out of the mix and and they fall silent. Color of skin is all they worry about. Look at sanni and chickenhawk. All they do is screech about how racist white people are, all the while ignoring Obamoid’s repeated racist comments and positions. Ignoring Michelle’s repeated racist comments and positions. And both become absolutely hysterical when anyone points out the repeated racist comments and positions of Michelle and Barry.

Race is the linchpin of the political left. It is used to keep people separated. Democrats have nothing to gain from eliminating the racial divide, and everything to lose. The more people who embrace the dream of Martin Luther King Jr’s dream of a colorblind society, the harder Democrats and their fellow travelers on the political left AND right worker to inflame racial division.


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2Hotel9 on June 9, 2008 at 12:51 pm

It is dishonest and irresponsible. But I expect nothing more from you.

Once again, a feeble attempt to distract from the fact that Obama’s entire context is to evaluate things and people on the basis of skin color.  Nothing he says or writes is outside of the context of his racism.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 12:53 pm
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Chief RZ,

He is a racist.

Yeah, half of himself hates the other half.

His membership in a racist church that preached separtism for 20 years should be enough.

Well since you know everything they preached for 20 years, you must be a member.

robert108,

Every time he says “white folks” or “white people”, he’s being racist.

Then by that logic, when people say ‘black people’, their racist. As you have done on this blog and Rob has done a number of times. Are both of you racists then?

The talk about Obama being a racist is simply a ruse.

Nunez on June 9, 2008 at 12:56 pm
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Nothing he says or writes is outside of the context of his racism.

How would you know about anything he writes?  You admit you haven’t read what he writes.

That is all Democrats have, take race out of the mix and and they fall silent.

Neither Hannitized or I created this thread attacking Obama as a racist.  How are you taking race out of the mix?  By taking Obama out of context as he explains how he experienced racism and strives to overcome it. 

And where is Rob to explain his reading of the book?

Hawk on June 9, 2008 at 01:04 pm

It is a ruse, used by Democrats to keep people from uniting against their socialist agenda.


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2Hotel9 on June 9, 2008 at 01:04 pm

Obamoid does not overcome racism, he uses it as a tool to divide people, so they can not unite against the Democrat Party and it’s socialist agenda. Do try to keep up, stupid ass.


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2Hotel9 on June 9, 2008 at 01:07 pm

How would you know about anything he writes? You admit you haven’t read what he writes.

Wrong.  I haven’t read his entire book, and have no interest in reading it, because of its racist content. I have read his source material, black liberation theology, and especially Cone.  I don’t need any more of that racist crap to know how wrong it is.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 01:11 pm
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Obama used a racial stereotype in referring to his grandmother. Nice avoidance, though.

Saying a typical white person is not derogatory anymore than saying a typical American.  The word typical is synonymous with normal, average and usual.

Your hysterical reaction requires neither an explanation nor a reasoned response.  I do it for the sake of those who you intend to confuse with your lies.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 01:37 pm

Then by that logic, when people say ‘black people’, their racist.

You’re half right, in that racism works in all directions, not just the PC one.  On the other hand, you are wrong, unless the skin color distinction is meant to evaluate the people in question.  That’s what Obama, and all his racist buddies in the black liberation theology movement, do as a matter of course.  It’s the premise of their belief system that people should be divided along racial lines.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 01:43 pm

Saying a typical white person is not derogatory anymore than saying a typical American.

Wrong.  Americans come in all skin colors.  There is no such thing as a “typical white person”, unless your context is dividing people by skin color.  It’s racism, no matter how you try to spin it.  The little snot made a racist remark against his grandmother, who supported him, while his mother and father were elsewhere.
He’s not only racist, but ungrateful, as well.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 01:46 pm

The only lies here come from Obamoid, Michelle, chickenhawk, and you.


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2Hotel9 on June 9, 2008 at 01:48 pm
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Angry teen: Maybe Obama was criticized for being an asshole, or for not being able to speak effectively without a teleprompter, or because he moves like a little girl;

I think the more accurate reality is that he is being criticized by assholes, who are upset about McCains inability to give a compelling speech about anything and because their candidate uses actual racial slurs, such as Gook.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 01:50 pm
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Wrong.  Americans come in all skin colors. 

I said derogatory, look it up.  You obviously don’t know what racism is.  He used it as differentiator, nothing more.  Racism involves a lot more than you seem to be able to comprehend.

There is no such thing as a “typical white person”, unless your context is dividing people by skin color. 

That doesn’t even make any sense.  Think it through.

It’s racism, no matter how you try to spin it.  The little snot made a racist remark against his grandmother, who supported him, while his mother and father were elsewhere.

His mother and father passed away. 

He’s not only racist, but ungrateful, as well.

His grandmother is a lot smarter than you as well, as there is nothing to be offended by.  I think the problem is you are not sophisticated enough to understand the words you use and how people in this world think.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 02:09 pm

His mother and father passed away.

Nice lie, but before his parents died, his mother was off being an anthropologist elsewhere, and his dad was off screwing other women.  Even so, it’s no excuse for him to make racist remarks about his grandmother, who, I repeat, supported him.  He’s not only a racist, but an ungrateful snot, as well.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 02:41 pm

BTW, angry teen, I will once again give you the definition of racism, which is judging and evaluating people on the basis of their perceived race.  It is also assigning stereotypes to groups of people based on their perceived race: “a typical white person” is a good example of racism, as would “a typical black person”, “a typical asian person”, etc.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 02:45 pm
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… “a typical white person” is a good example of racism, as would “a typical black person”, “a typical asian person”, etc.

You only say that because you attribute it to behavior, or negative attribute.  What words would you use to describe a normal or average white person, if you needed to make a distinction?

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 03:07 pm

What words would you use to describe a normal or average white person, if you needed to make a distinction?

Both “normal” and “average” have objective definitions; “typical” indicates judgment, and has no objective definition.  Once again, there is no such thing as “a typical white person”; you can see that quite readily by removing the skin color qualifier, which gives you “a typical person”, which has no meaning whatsoever, and simply demonstrates ignorance.
BTW, since Obama’s racist stereotype of his grandmother was based on her not wanting to be aggressively panhandled while she was waiting for a bus(according to his own book), and his evaluation was that she was afraid due to the panhandler’s skin color(not his aggressiveness), do you think that a member of the Dem terrorist group, the KKK, is “a typical white person”?  Those terrorists weren’t afraid of black people at all, in fact it was just the opposite: black and white Southern Republicans were afraid of them.  Do you think Obama’s racist statement is accurate?
I don’t think there is any such thing as a typical (fill in your racial stereotype) person at all.  It’s just bullshit to regard people that way.  Shame on you!


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

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Proof on June 9, 2008 at 03:17 pm

Nunez.  Let me try with you.  No, I did not attend that church for 20 years.  I am a member of a Presbyterian Church.  Not one time in the 28 years I have been a member have I heard any preacher or guest preacher use the terms “white person” “black person” or anything along those lines.  I have seen parts of DVDs sold openly from this Chicago racist church.  I heard enough after about 10-15 minutes of recordings.

I feel sorry for these people who have been sold a bill of goods.  The Al Shraptons who have lied—Tawna Brawley and stirred up racism where it does not exist; the Nyphongs and the gang of 88 and the Duke students who virtually lynched innocent students, some of whom were not even present during the alleged event.  Should I go on?


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Chief RZ on June 9, 2008 at 03:28 pm

Neither Hannitized or I created this thread attacking Obama as a racist.  How are you taking race out of the mix?  By taking Obama out of context as he explains how he experienced racism and strives to overcome it. 

This lame argument came up everytime some of Wright’s anti-American and anti-Israel sermons came out. “It’s taken out of context. Then when we heard the context...it usually made it worse. I doubt Obama’s book is like that, but many comments he’s made, have made it clear he’s not some racially unifying candidate.


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Kenny on June 9, 2008 at 03:53 pm
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Both “normal” and “average” have objective definitions; “typical” indicates judgment, and has no objective definition.

They are SYNONYMS!!  Look it up before you respond.  Oh, never mind.  You are hopeless.

Oh, and how about this?  “Average American”!!  How does that sound Mr. PC???

Once again, there is no such thing as “a typical white person”; you can see that quite readily by removing the skin color qualifier, which gives you “a typical person”, which has no meaning whatsoever, and simply demonstrates ignorance.

But there is “A average white person”, “A normal white person”?  You are high.  Only in your mind do you attribute negativity out of political correctness.

BTW, since Obama’s racist stereotype of his grandmother was based on her not wanting to be aggressively panhandled while she was waiting for a bus(according to his own book), and his evaluation was that she was afraid due to the panhandler’s skin color(not his aggressiveness),

I don’t think he was talking about that particular case as his example in his speech?  How did you arrive at that conclusion?

do you think that a member of the Dem terrorist group, the KKK, is “a typical white person”?  Those terrorists weren’t afraid of black people at all, in fact it was just the opposite: black and white Southern Republicans were afraid of them.  Do you think Obama’s racist statement is accurate?

????????

I don’t think there is any such thing as a typical (fill in your racial stereotype) person at all.  It’s just bullshit to regard people that way.  Shame on you!

It was a poor choice of words, but there is nothing racist about it.  It was a descriptor, not a negative connotation.  Even Chris Wallace understands, as does that one Fox and Friends dude.  They both have intellectual honesty in that case.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 06:37 pm

But there is “A average white person”, “A normal white person”?

Mathematically, an “average white person” can be defined as the aveage of all characteristics of those who you define as “white”.  “Normal” is something like the people who fall within the 85th percentile.  In any case, it is stupid to the extreme to try to make any sort of meaningful statement about all the millions of “white” people in the world, and Obama illustrates his thinking by making such a statement about his grandmother.  It shows the way he thinks: in stereotypes he has learned from his black liberation theology mentors.  No matter how you try to twist and spin to explain away his obvious racism.  Now, as a regular person, it’s no big deal, but when this person is trying to be the leader my country, it’s a very big deal.  His prejudice has no place in the Oval Office.  We had another bum in there in the Nineties, and we should never make that mistake again.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 06:54 pm
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Mathematically, an “average white person” can be defined as the aveage of all characteristics of those who you define as “white”.

Hmmm?

Average:adjective, verb, - 2. a typical amount, rate, degree, etc.; norm.

Go on!!!

“Normal” is something like the people who fall within the 85th percentile. 

OK??

Normal: 1. conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural.

Now how is typical defined??

Typical: 2. conforming to a particular type.

They are the same, except for in your head!!

It shows the way he thinks: in stereotypes

It’s not any different that the words normal, average and every other word that have similar meanings.  That’s why they are synonyms, padna!!

What you have demonstrated, is that you have no idea of what you are talking about.

Hannitized on June 9, 2008 at 07:14 pm

Barack Obama did not make one racist remark on that clip, where he was not quoting someone else, for the sake of being racist.

So Hannitized, are you claiming that Obama calling his grandmother a “typical white person” wasn’t racist?  What if McCain called Obama a
typical black person”?  Would you be defending McCain on this basis as well?



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Barack Obama did not make one racist remark on that clip, where he was not quoting someone else,

In his book, did he repudiate any of those people close to him that were making the racist remarks? Well, did he?


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Proof on June 9, 2008 at 08:12 pm

Typical: 2. conforming to a particular type.

It may be “typical” of you and Obama to stereotype people by their skin color, but it’s still racism.
Your usual tendency to raise a lot of bullshit to distract from your typical errors in thinking is in full force, once again.
Is the “typical white person” female?  His grandmother was female, right?  Is the “typical white person” a grandmother?  I see you are unaware of shades of meaning, angry teen.  Not surprising.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 9, 2008 at 08:33 pm
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So Hannitized, are you claiming that Obama calling his grandmother a “typical white person” wasn’t racist?

Yes, me, Chris Wallace and Brian Kilmeade all think it was not a racist comment.  I can’t help you if you want to make it racist for your little partisan game.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/mayhem-at-fox-news-ancho_n_92743.html

What if McCain called Obama a typical black person”?  Would you be defending McCain on this basis as well?

It depends on the context on which the statement was used.  Sometimes you need to distinguish by color in order to make a point.  If the context had a negative or derogatory intent, than it certainly could be.  When you are using the word as a synonym for normal or average, as Obama had, it is not racist.  Even Robert will admit that.

Hannitized on June 10, 2008 at 01:38 am
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In his book, did he repudiate any of those people close to him that were making the racist remarks? Well, did he?

He talks about his discomfort in using certain words in ways that are not natural to him, or that are part of his character.  Later in the book he discovers how racism is not anything that is a part of his value system.

The answer is yes.

Hannitized on June 10, 2008 at 01:42 am
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Or do you really think Obama made a book about how racist he is after giving a speech about how are not a divided nation based on color??????

Only a complete idiot could surmise that.

Hannitized on June 10, 2008 at 01:43 am
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Again, you guys simply don’t know what racism is.

RACISM:

1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

Nothing in Obama’s statement where he uses the word “typical white person”, when referring to his grandmother contains any of the meaning in the definition of racism.  Period!

Hannitized on June 10, 2008 at 01:54 am

That settles that! You just supplied the definition that clearly shows Obamoid, and all Democrats, to be racists. Thanks.


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2Hotel9 on June 10, 2008 at 02:55 am

Barack Obama has surrounded himself with racists and now the Barack Obama supporters wish for us to ignore that reality.

likwidshoe on June 10, 2008 at 02:59 am
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Some conservatives wouldn’t know reality if it hit them upside the head like a stick of hard salami.

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In his book, did he repudiate any of those people close to him that were making the racist remarks?

He talks about his discomfort

Not the same thing, Oh Troll-who-understands-words-NOT!
Discomfort is passive. Repudiation is active. Did he actively repudiate those close to him who were making racist remarks? No matter how comfortable the two of you “feel”, the plain answer is NO!

Buy a dictionary. Have someone read it to you.


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Proof on June 10, 2008 at 04:24 am

Reality is Obamoid is a Democrat because he is a racist.


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“All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.” - Edmund Burke

Or maybe, they could just feel uncomfortable? /sarcasm


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Repudiate

In lib-speak, that word means to make excuses for.


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In lib-speak, that word means to make excuses for.

I thought he could have done a little flag dance, G*d d*mned somebody or something!
That’s repudiation!


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Proof on June 10, 2008 at 05:10 am

Words from Barack Obama’s “spiritual advisor”:

God Damn America

US of KKK-A

The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.

What Barack had to say after these rantings came to light:

I could no more distance myself from Pastor Wright than I could from my white grandmother.

Barack Obama, the “post racial” candidate.

likwidshoe on June 10, 2008 at 05:24 am

Why would he use the adjective, white to describe his grandmother?


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Chief RZ on June 10, 2008 at 06:25 am

When you are using the word as a synonym for normal or average, as Obama had, it is not racist. Even Robert will admit that.

You lie again.  What I actually said was that it is a meaningless stereotype.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 10, 2008 at 09:14 am
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Why would he use the adjective, white to describe his grandmother?

To articulate what happens sometimes when a white person runs into a black person walking down the street.  How else do you describe that reality if you don’t identify that distinction??????  THERE IS NO OTHER WAY.

You guys are insane.

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d he actively repudiate those close to him who were making racist remarks?

As a boy no, as a man, yes.  That is what the book is about, oh boy-wonder who doesn’t understand the meaning of words.

Hannitized on June 10, 2008 at 10:39 am
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Laura Bush shows some class and stands up for Michele Obama by admiting something all logical people already know.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25078386#25069155

Hannitized on June 10, 2008 at 11:04 am

Laura Bush shows some class and stands up for Michele Obama by admiting something all logical people already know.

H,

I don’t recall that Laura Bush has ever not shown class.  Your gratuitous use of the word “some” is an offensive partisan insinuation wholly unworthy of you… and certainly unwarranted in the case of Mrs. Bush.


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Bat One on June 10, 2008 at 11:12 am

How else do you describe that reality if you don’t identify that distinction??????  THERE IS NO OTHER WAY.

Only if your context is division along racial lines.  For Obama, it’s all about skin color.  His words convict him.  Any older woman of any skin color would be frightened by an aggressive panhandler, of any skin color, but the racist Obama thinks it’s all about skin color, not behavior.  He’s a racist, through and through, just like his mentors in black liberation theology.  It’s their context for everything.


The only legitimate role of government with regard to economics is to prevent fraud and provide a remedy- civil and criminal penalties- in case of fraud.

People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on June 10, 2008 at 11:26 am

Obamoid has not, ever, repudiated a single one of the racists he associates with.

He is a Democrat because he is a racist. sanni is a Democrat because it is a racist. Race is the only metric Democrats use.


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2Hotel9 on June 10, 2008 at 12:52 pm

I feel sorry for some here who are racist like the person who typed:

what happens sometimes when a white person runs into a black person walking down the street

Nothing much different than when an adult meets any other adult.
Now if one person, an adult were passing a teenager who might also be wearing gang colors, spitting, saying nasty words and not looking where he is going, then that exchange might not happen.  Same thing when a husband and his wife are walking on the sidewalk and a bum comes up to them asking for a dollar, or says that it is her birthday, do you have some money for a present for her children?
To liberals, they really don’t take time to think about these things.  It is far easier to stereotype by salient visual clues like skin tones, or gender.
Sorry people.


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Chief RZ on June 10, 2008 at 03:26 pm

To articulate what happens sometimes when a white person runs into a black person walking down the street.

Since many of my neighbors are black [also brown,yellow and chartruese} I greet them with a hello, good morning or other polite greeting.  Don’t know where you live but most of us in Texas are ‘color blind’ seeing the person instead of the race.

You and the other race baiters need to get a new schtick since the rascist one is dead.


You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

docdave on June 10, 2008 at 03:43 pm
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I don’t recall that Laura Bush has ever not shown class.  Your gratuitous use of the word “some” is an offensive partisan insinuation wholly unworthy of you… and certainly unwarranted in the case of Mrs. Bush.

The use of the word some was meant to be a stark contrast to those at SAB who show none when it comes to either Michele or her husband.

Clearly what we have here is bunch of race baiters all to willing to play the race card to their advantage.  Typical.

Hannitized on June 11, 2008 at 04:07 pm
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Chief,

Don’t be immature!

I feel sorry for some here who are racist like the person who typed:

what happens sometimes when a white person runs into a black person walking down the street

Nothing much different than when an adult meets any other adult.

I used the word sometimes.  Even Chris Wallace admits he has experienced that feeling Obama was describing, when discussing what happens sometimes when a person, who is white, comes across an average black person.

To deny this occurs at times is naive, immature and/or ignorant to the facts.  To say that it does not occur is to deny racism exists at all.  It does exist.

Hannitized on June 11, 2008 at 04:10 pm

You are absolutely right!!! Barack Hussein Obamoid is a racebaiter using race for his political advantage. Glad you finally figured that out, numbnuts. What happened, did you run out of meth 12 hours ago and finally come down?


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2Hotel9 on June 11, 2008 at 04:29 pm
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And to simply have a reaction in that circumstance does not even mean it is racism.  It just happens.  My point in that last sentence was that a racist feels something different all together, and to deny they exist is just outright denial.

Hannitized on June 11, 2008 at 04:34 pm

Clearly what we have here is bunch of race baiters all to willing to play the race card to their advantage.  Typical.

H,

Your reference to Mrs. Bush was gratuitous, particularly as she and her husband are not campaigning for any public office, whereas the Obama’s, both of them, most certainly are.

You explanation is, to say the least, suspect.  The comparison was between Laura Bush and Michelle Obama.  You ought to at least have the integrity to acknowledge that, rather than falling back on a pretty transparent attempt at cover.


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Bat One on June 11, 2008 at 04:35 pm
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You are absolutely right!!! Barack Hussein Obamoid is a racebaiter using race for his political advantage.

?????

You are insane.  But that is what I expect from Rush listeners. 

Why are you calling him and his wife a racist?  That is race baiting my friend.  You wear that suit well.

Hannitized on June 11, 2008 at 04:37 pm

You made the call, meth head. Obamoid is using racism for his political gain. You said it.


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2Hotel9 on June 11, 2008 at 04:50 pm
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Your reference to Mrs. Bush was gratuitous,

Bat,

Because you ignored my previous comment regarding your accusation, I conclude that you are acting the buffoon on purpose.  Because there are others who are too stupid to follow along, is the reason I reply, again, for the sake of argument.

The word some applies to the lack of class that is displayed on SAB regarding this issue.  For she has the decency to see this clearly, while you slime balls play the race card.

You explanation is, to say the least, suspect.  The comparison was between Laura Bush and Michelle Obama.  You ought to at least have the integrity to acknowledge that, rather than falling back on a pretty transparent attempt at cover.

She’s on your side, and your side isn’t showing any class on this issue.  But she is.  That is why it is “some” class.  Because the lack of it on the conservative side is sparse.

The fact that you are incapable of understanding my use of words suggests your motives are suspect or that you lack the capacity to follow along.  I am going to give you the benifit of the doubt and allow you to correct yourself, before you make any more absurd conclusions.

Hannitized on June 11, 2008 at 04:50 pm
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The comparison was between Laura Bush and Michelle Obama.

What comparison?  Who made the comparison?  I certainly didn’t make a comparison between her and Michele.

Further, I didn’t make one disparaging remark about Laura, I complimented her.  You are simply trying to distort my meaning by attributing words I never used or suggesting I implied something that I never came close to saying.

Quit playing games and admit you guys are playing the race card.  Because you are and it is as transparent as a cheap pair of lederhosen.

Hannitized on June 11, 2008 at 04:56 pm

You are absolutely right, again!! Barack Hussein Obamoid is playing the race card, he has an entire deck of them and keeps whipping them out and smacking them down. Your moments of clarity are coming closer together. Now, if you just stay off the meth you might actually figure more things out. Such as socialism is a failure.


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You guys are insane.

outright denial.

you are incapable of understanding

naive, immature and/or ignorant to the facts.

Clearly what we have here is bunch of race baiters

A wise man once said:

Projection is a trait often pronounced in the clueless Left.

Heh.


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Another wise man once said:

Projection is a trait often pronounced in the clueless Right.

Name calling is fun.  Heh!

Hannitized on June 11, 2008 at 06:56 pm

You keep telling us that Obamoid is using race for his political gain. Why are you crying now?


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2Hotel9 on June 11, 2008 at 07:17 pm
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Chief,

Don’t be immature!

I

feel sorry for some here who are racist like the person who typed:

what happens sometimes when a white person runs into a black person walking down the street

Nothing much different than when an adult meets any other adult.

I used the word sometimes.  Even Chris Wallace admits he has experienced that feeling Obama was describing, when discussing what happens sometimes when