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Rob opines:

And in that choice lays all the difference in the world.

Amen.

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Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

The difference between William Ayers and Tom Coburn, at least as far as Obama is concerned, is that Coburn is an elected member of Congress and thus Obama’s colleague.  Obama didn’t - and certainly would not - choose to serve in the Senate with him.  Obama did, however, choose to appear at events with William Ayers.

Obama had minimal contact with Ayers decades ago by his own choice. Since then, he has been invited to serve on similar panels or boards with the man. There is absolutely no difference between the current connection between Ayers and Coburn.

Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

The difference between William Ayers and Tom Coburn, at least as far as Obama is concerned, is that Coburn is an elected member of Congress and thus Obama’s colleague.

So how does that remove his choice to continue to work in the Senate?  It doesn’t make any sense what so ever.

Obama didn’t - and certainly would not - choose to serve in the Senate with him.  Obama did, however, choose to appear at events with William Ayers.

Keeping your job and showing up to work everyday is a choice.  You can always choose to do something different if you are offended by the people who happen to be surrounding you while you are attempting to do your job.

And in that choice lays all the difference in the world.

What is the difference?  You still haven’t explained it accurately.

Obama said that the American people are “smarter than that”, when referring to people who might assume that someone standing next to Obama suggests it affects his views and how he sees the world.

Do you think applies to you guys and you in particular Rob, when he gives us such credit?

I can’t speak for the other Rob but I think that Obama’s staement was made to merely attempt to sweep the discussion under the rug because he doesn’t want to talk about the question anymore. If America was indeed “too smart for that” then America would also be too smart for things like zoning laws that restrict sexual business distance from schools and churches. One doesn’t effect the other directly, you could argue, but people have a problem with it because the two values inherent are so divergent.

Another distinction is that Tom Coburn, despite his difference in beliefs with Obama, has not ever admitted to setting bombs with the intent of randomly causing violence. Ayers has. Their difference in opinion aside, there is no moral equivelence in the reason thier names were brought up. One is an elected civil servant and the other is a self admitted domestic terrorist.

"a self admitted domestic terrorist” Exactly.  One of our domestic enemies.
This may be why the Social-Democrats do not want the FBI to monitor domestic phone calls.  They are in bed with our enemies or at least are trying to encourage and protect them.

Communism is evil

So how does that remove his choice to continue to work in the Senate?  It doesn’t make any sense what so ever.

Obama doesn’t have a say in who he works with in the Senate, he does have a say in who he consorts with in his personal time. And who he consorts with seems to be a pretty scary bag of pieces of crap. And I think it wouldn’t just be naive, it would be plain out stupid, to think that these people won’t/don’t have some influence on him. He had a campaign event at his house, this was not some chance meeting at some restaurant, which is the equivalent of how you’re trying to downplay this. This is certainly not a big deal for the left, people like Ayers are heroes to them.

""That’s the problem with you lefties, you’re not willing to get your hands dirty. I’d suggest you roll up your sleeves.”

-Jack Bauer

Obama doesn’t have a say in who he works with in the Senate, he does have a say in who he consorts with in his personal time.

That is nonsense. 

Have you ever been to an MDA ball?  How about a heart ball?  A symphony ball?  A theatre for youth ball?  If you have, how do you have control over who shows up?

I volunteer lots of my time and money to charitable events, listed above, and I can not control who shows up at the events.  Nor should I be expected to leave because someone whom I may disagree with on a whole host of other reasons, is also present.

Rob likes to quote Ted Nugent.  Are we to assume then that Rob has the same flees as Ted Nugent?  Or in simpler terms, does it mean that he agrees with everything Ted Nugent does?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYmFAwhmqaU&feature=related

WHAT’S WITH THE ARMY TANK??!!!  I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw a tank behind a building.

WE DO NOT WANT ANOTHER WACO! We must do something!

The state could save a ton of $’s and cause much less trama to the children by allowing them to stay in their compound home or school and placing state monitors on the premises.  Why can’t they see their mothers?

Why can’t they see their mothers?

Well, one reason may be that if there is danger to the children.. the mothers allowed it?
Just a thought is all.
And BTW… not all mothers are being kept from the children. Considering, some parents can’t prove relationship, or who parented which child, I’d say they have a mess on their hands.

I just posted on the front page what Senator Coburn actually said.

The kindest thing you can say about Barry is that he misquoted him.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Ayers threw a fund raiser for Obama AT HIS HOME, so it goes beyond your minimizing. You’re trying to defend the indefensible. You should have just been honest and said “that’s stupid of him” and moved on, I would have given you a heck of a lot more respect. Would you, or would you not, be beside yourself if a Republican had the same ties. Obama’s judgement, or lack of it, is definitely in question. Can’t put the genie back in the bottle no matter how much rationalizing you do.

""That’s the problem with you lefties, you’re not willing to get your hands dirty. I’d suggest you roll up your sleeves.”

-Jack Bauer

Whatever Coburn may or may not have said, the fact remains that Coburn was talking about changing the laws of the United States, not actually going out and trying to kill anyone.

Ayers really did try to kill American servicemen, but only managed to get his own people killed. But I go back to what I’ve said in earlier posts. The actual damage that ayers and his associates have done to our education system is far worse than anything he did as a terrorist.

When Obama learned that he would be servind on a board with a terrorist and an America-hating extremist, he should have resigned on priniple.

That’s what a decent and responsible person would have done.

This may be why the Social-Democrats do not want the FBI to monitor domestic phone calls.  They are in bed with our enemies or at least are trying to encourage and protect them.

This is absolutely false. The issue is whether or not this current president has followed our laws. Warrants are required. There is a 72 hour window to obtain a warrant. There is no excuse for not abiding by our laws. I believe this president has broken our laws and indeed admitted as much.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob