Barack Obama: Franklin Roosevelt Was “Pretty Fiscally Conservative”

A funny moment from President Obama’s town hall today:

Just for a frame of reference, here’s per-capita federal spending (inflation adjusted) from 1900 forward. Note that the FDR era (1933 – 1945):

And keep in mind that FDR was very nearly a revolutionary, growing the federal government further and more pervasively than perhaps any other American president.

That’s not exactly a picture of fiscal conservatism.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • yy4u2

    Cuz in the back of my mind, me and da peeps gonna roll dem numbers.  Got it biatches!  Michelle, where’s my golfing shoes and polo shirt?  Real people are coming by.  Need to look good and impress.

  • robert108

    From obama’s Marxist point of view, FDR was “conservative”.

  • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

    I have not the slightest doubt that Hussein regards FDR as a fiscal conservative.  He’s beginning to look like a fiscal conservative next to the Prez.  It was not, however, FDR’s intent to destroy the country.

    • Neiman

      Perhaps not intentionally, but FDR was only saved from our economic depression by war, he was our only president for life – which he thought was his natural right and he was trying like Barry to become absolute dictator by his court packing scheme, lastly he was like Barry trying to create a Socialist country.

      • ec99

        FDR was the father of the ferderal government takeover, which included making poeple dependent on it, and thus become junkies.  He even had the balls to criminalize owning gold and confiscating it.

        • Neiman

          Exactly, while I appreciate and respect Flamemeister’s views, I disagree to the extent that I think he did want to destroy capitalist America, recreating it into a socialist state.

          • robert108

            Flame got it right, Neiman.  FDR was fooled, just like you, by propaganda.  The Soviets claimed they weren’t affected by the Great Depression, which was worldwide.  Believing that, FDR was open to Marxist economic dogma, peddled by some of his cabinet members, and designed the New Deal on that basis.  The truth, which would have avoided all that, was that the Soviets were suffering greatly, but had iron control over the flow of information coming out of Russia, and so were able to fool the rest of the world, just like obama has fooled you.
            He really thought the free enterprise system had failed, and that Marxism was a success.  The truth would have been the antidote to all that.  We needed the truth, not “packaging”.

          • ec99

            You also have to remember that FDR believed he was an aristocrat with the “noblesse oblige” attitude.  He naturally believed he was better than the unwashed masses, and thus government must lead the sheep.

          • robert108

            All too true.  IMO, Marxism is just monarchism with a political nobility instead of an hereditary one.

          • Neiman

            You have not proven anything I have added to his comments are untrue, you are still hurting from my seriously beating you about the head and shoulders for the past couple of days, showing what a paranoid liar you are and now, even when normally you would not have objected to what I said, you are following me around like a sick calf disagreeing with everything I write because your little feelings are hurt – try being a man, you got fairly, honestly, thoroughly beaten and should move on.

            Also, it is very childish/girlish to try and drive a wedge between me and Flamemeister, even though I agreed with him and just added my own views to his.

          • ec99

            Neiman,

            Take it easy.  I told you before you’re gonna have a heart attack.  Ignore the personal, it’s no big deal. 

          • Neiman

            I appreciate your kind concern and reasonable council, but other that earlier today when I got weary of his constant comments and lies, when I got really irritated, I have not been angry or emotional.

            In the Marine Corps and several high risk jobs after the military, wherein I often risked life and limb, while I can be focused and intense and even counter punch quite well, I am almost never angry, my blood pressure is good and this is just another day in the arena.

          • ec99

            I appreciate your service to our country.  I just get concerned that you let rbb and others get to you.

          • Neiman

            Thanks, they are both like disease carrying mosquitoes that need to be swatted and crushed, very irritating because they won’t just stop, but I get tired of their bites.

          • robert108

            As long as you keep lying, you will get smacked with the truth.

          • Neiman

            You can’t handle the truth, but on the other hand you are very good at lies.

          • robert108

            You are nothing but emotional, Neiman.  Don’t lie about that, as we have all seen it in you in every theological argument you have had here.

          • Neiman

            Prove it objectively! You mistake passion for Truth as emotion. It is interesting that since I have had to slap you down, now you are suddenly attacking my faith and my steadfast defense of the Faith. Goodness: Pathological liar, paranoid, having suppressed gay lusts and now anti-Christ, you are really in bondage to some very destructive spirits.

          • robert108

            You haven’t beaten me at anything, Neiman, all you have done is to threaten it.  An impotent threat, as are all your threats.  When I get a threat of violence, I respond with massive retaliation.  I will smack you with the truth every time you lie.  That’s a promise.
            You don’t hurt my feelings, Neiman; before your threats of violence and homosexual filth, I pitied you, but now I just regard you as nothing but a blowhard.

          • Neiman

            Goodness: You are really coming unhinged. Paranoia – I never threatened you. Pathological Liar: You have no relationship with the Truth. Homosexual desires: You are the one upset because you fear, despite my telling them we are still enemies that, these people may not return your love.

            Honestly: You desperately need psychiatric and spiritual help, you are on the verge of clinical lunacy.

          • robert108

            BTW, I just discovered that you are parroting O’Reilly, word for word with your defeatist stance.
            SQUAWK!  It’s not even your original thinking.

          • Neiman

            Well not only have you lied, I don’t even like O’Reilly at all, but your childish multiple, endless comments are not only boring and childish in the extreme, but I am tired of responding. So keep it up with yourself, but please don’t delude yourself further by thinking my silence makes you right, I am just bored and tired of your nonsense.

            Please get to a psychiatrist and minister ASAP, you are in serious emotional and spiritual trouble.

          • robert108

            I just listened to O’Reilly, and you parrot his position on this issue, word for word, and he bases it all on that one Fox poll, just like you do.  I don’t believe in coincidences.
            Your need for anger management is extreme.  Take your own advice.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bikebubba

    Obama believes all kinds of weird things, but this one takes the cake.  What color is the sun on his planet?

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com Goon

    What a buffoon, I am sure that the troll will come one here and say that Rob is wrong and that Obumble was right and FDR was a great president.

  • VocalYokel

    I’m sure FDR was very careful about how he spent his own money, but the Taxpayer’s money…not so much.

  • mickey_moussaoui

    What is it about Obama that he always has to hide who he is under the shadow of some other president?

    For crying out loud, it is too late to pretend to be someone else. We know what a loser asshole he is, the game is over.

  • http://profiles.google.com/larry.gibby Larry Gibby

     
    May 1939, Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau testified:
    “We are spending more money than we have ever spent before, and it does not work. … I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started … and an enormous debt, to boot.”

  • mikemc1970

    Compared to Obamas spending, FDR was fiscally conservative. Compared to Obamas spending, Imelda Marcos in a shoe store, was fiscally conservative.

  • Jamermorrow

    We all know FDR, TR, Abraham Lincoln, and Woodrow Wilson are the best presidents. Why, because they increased the size of the federal government. It is the liberals way of using history to advance their cause.

  • spud

    FDR was elected in a landslide and re-elected in three more landslides.  If we lived in his time maybe we would have had different view of him also.  Unemployment was enormous and used govt as tool to get people to work.  It must worked to make people feel good about themselves in sense took forever to come out of that period and yet he kept getting re-elected and his popularity had to be high.  Maybe he gave great speeches with those fireside chats.  His 13 years of power were unmatched in scope and they still remain part of the american fabric.  If you want to scream at a Dem President who used power to his advantage I think Johnson far better example to really be angry at.

    • Jamermorrow

      What if his policy’s actually made unemployment worse? What if the depression would have ended a lot sooner without government intervention? Like faith in Gods some people have the same faith in government.

      • robert108

        Faith in God is admirable; faith in govt is foolish.  False equivalence.
        The free market works best when the participants follow Judeo-Christian moral standards.

        • Jamermorrow

          Free market works whenever and with any group.

          • robert108

            Wrong.  The free market requires the individual participants to be generally honest and respectful of each other.  “Thou shalt not bear false witness.” is very important, since it eliminates the need for constant policing.  “Thou shalt not steal.” is also very important. The Golden Rule also makes for maximum freedom.

    • ec99

      He also lived during a time when the press refused to report anything negative about him.  They hid the fact he lived in a wheel chair, his daliances with his mistress, his wife’s preference for women.  In other words, the bad PR present presidents receive, he was immune to.

      • spud

        All I am pointing out no matter what anyone thinks about FDR he was beloved during his time.  Last  but not least you can’t rewrite a period of time in life he is and always will be the only president in history elected to four terms and all by landslides so we can all diminsh him all we want as we know he grew govt humongously but the american people were more than satisfied with him during his era.  Unless Rushmore caves in he will always have his mug on it.   Relax people he is the standard bearer for all true liberals who will never ever get met again.  No liberal president will ever be held in regard by the american people like FDR was.  As far as his daliances there are many who will have been in his position who are grateful for transgressions not being known.

        • ec99

          “Unless Rushmore caves in he will always have his mug on it.”

          Uh, I believe that’s his cousin. 

  • Cdavidsonwathne39

    I want to know WHY republicans have been trying to destroy the New Deal since it’s inception. And being unsuccessful at that, why do they keep trying?

    • robert108

      Because it’s a failure; it grows govt and shrinks the private sector, which pays for everything.

    • ec99

      From the New Deal on, the federal govt has become the master, not the servant, of the people.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com Mountainmouth

    Compared to tour “Dear Leader” – Comrade Obama: everyone in history is fiscally conservative

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