Some of those “lies” dated back to her husbands administration.

“This does not reflect a capacity that was built up after 1991,” the official said, adding the munitions “are not the WMDs this country and the rest of the world believed Iraq had, and not the WMDs for which this country went to war.”

First I’d like to point out that, having been proved wrong, you shift the goal posts. “Saddam had no WMDs!” Well, he did. “But they were old!” Is that supposed to matter?

Two it’s worth noting said official is wrong. These were exactly the munitions that Hanz Blix talked about when he said he didn’t believe that Saddam had every destroyed the munitions he was required to under the ceasefire. Blix had no way of knowing that said WMDs were not properly taken care of so that they were rendered useless. But these were indeed the weapons we believed we’d find.

Sorry Bob.

Idiot.

You know, I’m going to break my rule here and directly engage you. For someone who mocks everyone else’s intelligence, you yourself have never said anything that remotely constitutes an intelligent thought. You post the same links over and over that lead to opinion pages…some of which disagree with you. If one takes out all the insults, threats, and blaming Republicans for everything…all you have is a “nuh uh” 6 year old response.

Oh Robbie, FDR killed the economy?

Another lie from you; that’s not what I said. He stagnated the economy for eight years.

…trying to blame Barney Frank…

You just keep lying; Dem social engineering affirmative action home loan mandates predate Barney Frank; he just kept it going by lying about the health of Fannie and Freddie. He is an enabler, not the cause. Try to keep up.

So what, RBB?

Just cause they couldn’t be used as is, doesn’t mean they weren’t salvageable.

Since you’re an idiot, I’ll remind you part of the concern of the US was that part of this remaining stockpile would end up in the hands of terrorists.

Keep moving the goal post, and eventually you’ll find yourself in own your locker room.

Again with the Big Lie; there was a laundry list of reasons for freeing the Iraqi people from the murdering dictator. Saddam’s use of WMD on his own people was just one reason of many.

The world intelligence reports all indicated belief in Iraq’s weapons cache. Saddam did little to convince anyone he didn’t have WMD.

Really?

There were weapons inspectors on the ground right before the war.

(AP) U.N. weapons inspectors climbed aboard a plane and pulled out of Iraq on Tuesday after President Bush issued a final ultimatum for Saddam Hussein to step down or face war.

…But Saddam made a last-minute bid to avert war, admitting that Iraq had once possessed weapons of mass destruction to defend itself from Iran and Israel – but insisting that it no longer has them.

“We are not weapons collectors,” the official Iraqi News Agency quoted him as saying. “When Saddam Hussein says he has no weapons of mass destruction, he means what he says.”

(CNN) — Two days after resigning as the Bush administration’s top weapons inspector in Iraq, David Kay said Sunday that his group found no evidence Iraq had stockpiled unconventional weapons before the U.S.-led invasion in March.

He said U.S. intelligence services owe President Bush an explanation for having concluded that Iraq had.

“My summary view, based on what I’ve seen, is we’re very unlikely to find large stockpiles of weapons,” he said on National Public Radio’s “Weekend Edition.” “I don’t think they exist.”

It was the consensus among the intelligence agencies that Iraq had such weapons that led Bush to conclude that it posed an imminent threat that justified the U.S.-led invasion, Kay said.

Jimmy was right.

Yeah, millions of free and safe Iraqis beg to differ retard. We sure got a lot of use out of all those energy schemes Carter foisted upon us. When he was President, I had to wait in line for gas and could only buy it on even numbered days. Moammar Gaddafi gave up all his weapons as well, that sure was a waste of money, huh?

A failure that won FOUR TERMS He promoted his political career at the expense(literally) of the American people and our economy, which he stagnated for eight years with his commie programs. and rescued capitalism from the jaws of a socialist revolution. Again you descend into insane fantasy. WWII rescued our free enterprise system from FDR’s communism.

Carter wasted more than the money, he also gave the world Mugabe and the Iranian thugs — Who wasted a whole lot of people.

I suspect the free Iraqis and Afghnis would dispute the waste of money on the wars that Hillary and others voted for. Oh yeah, that’s right, the very same person who The One chose for Sec of State. How do you square that circle.

Obama energy plan sounds a lot like Carter, Obama Raw Deal sounds a lot like that of the failed FDR, Obama is just not as smart as either — and nowhere near as good of a liar as BJ Clinton.

Alaska has done this since long before Sarah. The lefties are just lying again.

Carter also said he would impose a windfall profit tax on oil companies.

It took a few years, but Sarah finally imposed that tax in her state.

Jimmy was right.

“knew”

Back to the Future: Carter Wasted 19 Billion on Alternative Fuels

The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday.

“We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons,” Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said in a quickly called press conference late Wednesday afternoon.

…Offering the official administration response to FOX News, a senior Defense Department official pointed out that the chemical weapons were not in useable conditions.

“This does not reflect a capacity that was built up after 1991,” the official said, adding the munitions “are not the WMDs this country and the rest of the world believed Iraq had, and not the WMDs for which this country went to war.”

I responded with Powell and Rice.

Never mind…

Boob, who ever said that Saddam had a direct connection to 9/11. He did have tenuous contacts with Al Qeada.

I’m sure 9/11 was kept on a need to know basis within Al Aeada.

It took a few years, but Sarah finally imposed that tax in her state.

Not really, the state of Alaska owns that land and the oil underneath it.

They just raised their price which was prudent management of their number on asset.

boobs, that was two questions, but gops were never good with the math.

When the nutters here started challenging what I had written and demanded sources/links/proof, I started pasting. Since nutters are like poodles on linoleum barking at doorbells when ever a sane person posts here, I sometimes simply post the source. Is that going to be a problem for you?

The lines in the Carter years were absolutely to be blamed on his policy of allocating gasoline to stations.

We haven’t seen anything like those lines since those policies were abolished. Central planning don’t work.

Remember how his allocation policies limited how much gas a station could get, but a new station could open up and get all the gas they wanted. Crazy is the only thing to say about it.

Bush did not say last week he lied about WMD’s you dufus. He said he wished they’d had better intelligence. Quit projecting, if you want someone to take you serious. And Golfmann is right, there weren’t gas lines in 73. It was 76-77 when they were so bad. How old ARE you, Dino? I’ll bet you are still in your 20′s. You weren’t even born when Carter was Prez. I remember the hard times of the Carter years, so do some others here, we are not going to buy your bull.

Because the state of Alaska OWNS the oil. As governor she has a duty to watch that investment for the people of Alaska.

There weren’t gas lines in 1973…

I was there…

The real problem with rbb’s Big Lie here is that “No WMD” only requires one actual WMD to refute it. The lefties got screwed by their own excess here. Nice distraction from Carter’s energy debacle, though.

Excuse me, you were saying?

RBB, you’re missing Carricks’ point that:

…nobody on either side argues with the fact that they sponsored terrorism themselves.

I’d further add that the Iraq war never really ended since they never complied to the requirements, including firing on our planes, etc.

You can argue good or bad idea but you can’t reasonably argue that there was NO reason to go in. Look through CNN for Iraq related articles from 1994 to 2002. Iraq was THE bad guy for a decade, the fact they aren’t now doesn’t mean they never were.

Projection is the act of attributing one’s own unwanted qualities onto others. Look it up you fucking moron.

boobs, no.

I think what Ken is trying to say…

The essence of projection.

BTW, in my answer I was assuming the binary form of sarin, which is typical of Sadam’s nerve gas arsenal. This has a half-life of 5 years, so in 10 years, you would have 1/4 the original potency. However, this is still plenty lethal as a terrorist threat, where it to get into the wrong hands.

In terms of mustard gas, we still have stockpiles from the 1970s. Somehow the same people who are unconcerned about stockpiles in Iraq, are getting bent over aging stockpiles and the threat to the community from these aging weapons.

One can argue the relative probability of poison gas stockpiles falling into the terrorists hands, that’s another argument. But there really isn’t anything to seriously argue about regarding the relative threat, even with old weapons such as these, were that to happen.

BTW, (back to the thread): Nice parallel symbolism in the token shovel being tossed by Carter and O.

Our cookies will follow.

Poor widdle dim Senators can’t think for themselves?

Not really. The body of evidence was there that Saddam was a threat.

Even your idiot leader bush said publicly last week that he regreted lying by using fake intelligence.

Oh Robbie, FDR killed the economy? LOL, not surprising coming from an idiot who is trying to blame Barney Frank for the 8 ruinous bush/republican Congress years.

The thing about the stockpiles isn’t that Saddam didn’t have them. It’s what happened to them.

Or, put differently, how much more dependent on foreign oil are we due to Jimmuh, and how much of the wars we’re fighting today are the direct result of his failure to put together sensible petroleum industry laws?

Oh, yeah, that windfall profits tax he loved has consequences, doesn’t it?

Boob,

I just have one question. If the cut/paste feature was disabled, would that mean you’d be mute? I have yet to read a single well thought out post from you. Or any post written by you, w/o some shit pasted in. Do you have to carry around visuals in the real world to get your point across?

I’m pretty sure that degraded chemical weapons would be effective terrorist weapons.

Hilarious to see you people groping for democrats to blame and reaching back to Carter!

Those 30 years of republican dominance? Fuggedaboutit! It was YOU-TOE-PEE-UH!

So where do we move the goal post to now, Bob?

Man Train:

I think what Ken is trying to say is that self defense is a punishable crime.

raped women = murderous dictator.

What a great analog.

Kenny The Genius, linked to an article stating:

The munitions found contain sarin and mustard gases, Army Lt. Gen. Michael D. Maples, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, said. Sarin attacks the neurological system and is potentially lethal.

It is well known that these munitions were manufactured in the early 1990′s.

C, please describe in detail for us, the shelf life of sarin and mustard gases.

But promoted extensively and deceptively by bush’s admin to beat the drum of war.

Such idiots. There were horrendous gas lines in 73 and not just in a few eastern states. I was living in St Louis and remember going to get gas with my Dad the night they announced the stations were closing. It was pandemonium even in the suburbs where we lived. Gridlock. Panic.

From the State Department website:

Second Arab Oil Embargo, 1973-1974

The Nixon Administration also began a parallel set of negotiations with Arab oil producers to end the embargo, and with Egypt, Syria, and Israel to arrange an Israeli pull back from the Sinai and the Golan Heights. By January 18, 1974 Secretary of State Henry Kissinger had negotiated an Israeli troop withdrawal from parts of the Sinai. The promise of a negotiated settlement between Israel and Syria was sufficient to convince Arab oil producers to lift the embargo in March 1974. By May, Israel agreed to withdraw from the Golan Heights.

There was also a DEEP, UGLY recession in 74 thanks to Nixon’s criminal activity.

The 1974-1975 Recession in the U.S.

If you brainstems want to pretend that everything was peaches & cream before Carter took office, go for it. But you’re only showing how very stupid you are.

Carter inherited a MESS just Obama is. Reagan then convinced the stupid as f**K masses that if they simply turned the treasury over to the wealthy we’d all be farting through silk.

That began a long, slow unwinding of this cesspool country to the point we’re at now. We’re BRAZIL. Shitty, declining and with a huge gulf between rich and poor with opportunity evaporating for all but the top 10%.

Hope your stupid kids enjoy poverty. That’s what most of them will get thanks to your devotion to republicans.

Back to the Future: Carter Wasted 19 Billion on Alternative Fuels

You mean the overhead flights that were dropping bombs on Iraq before bush invaded? The bombings Tommy Franks admitted to?

RBB:

There was no good reason to go in.

It wasn’t your call.

Saddam did not attack us.

Saddam did not have the capability to attack us.

He shot at our overflights every goddam day.

Reason enough to invade his country and hang him from the gallows.

Nobody has ever found where any Bush administration member suggested that Saddam had direct ties to the 9/11 attackers.