Audio: Dick Cheney Says Trying 9/11 Hijackers In Civlian Courts A “Big Mistake”

Great interview between Scott Hennen and former Vice President Dick Cheney today:


Here’s a key exchange:

Scott – Our guest today is former Vice President of the United States, Dick Cheney on the Scott Hennen show and the common sense club today, and our exclusive interview, the Obama administration has recently decided that for the first time in our nation’s history, an enemy combatant caught on the battle field will be tried in civilian court, I want your reaction to Khalid Sheik Mohammed and 4 other top Al-Qaeda terrorists being giving these rights in a New York City trial?
Dick – I think it’s a big mistake… the fact … and I don’t wanna go too long here on my answer, but a couple key points here Scott, before 9/11 we treated terrorist attacks as criminal offenses, as law enforcement problems, so… somebody tries to blow up the World Trade Center in New York in ’93, we arrest them, put them on trial, put them in prison, case closed. What 9/11 did, was change the way we look at those events, because all of a sudden we had 16 acres of downtown Manhattan destroyed, we had people jumping out of 80th floor windows to avoid being burned to death, we had the Pentagon badly struck, we would have problems with the white house hit had it not been for the brave passengers on Flight 93 who took it down, we had 3000 dead Americans that day. That is not a law enforcement problem, that’s an act of war and you need to treat it as an act of war. Once you make that decision, that it is an act of war, then you marshal all your national assets and your national means to go after the bad guys to go after those who supplied them, with weapons and training to go after those who provide sanctuary and safe harbor. To pursue a much more aggressive strategy, which we did…. and which paid off in safety for the homeland here for 8 years. Now when I see them bring Khalid Sheik Mohammed to New York City… to stand trial in a civilian court it says to me, they forgot those lessons and in fact reverted back to the old mindset that a terrorist attack is quote “a law enforcement problem” not an act of war.
Scott – Can it be stopped, would you have any advice for those who so vehemently opposed this decision Mr. Vice President?
Dick – Well I know there have been efforts in the Congress to pass legislation that would prohibit bringing these folks here for trial, we ought to continue to encourage our Congressman and Senators to support that kind of effort. There was a perfectly legal, constitutional proper way to deal with these and that’s to perform military commissions, the precedent is set. That’s what Roosevelt did in World War II when he captured German saboteurs on Long Island. That’s the way we dealt with conspiracy , the folks that were part the conspiracy around Abraham Lincoln. Its a well established practice, people have representation before those commission, there are rules of evidence and so forth, and ultimately the Supreme Court on more than one occasion found that it was constitutional permissible to deal with it in that fashion. And that’s what we did, we’ve got those military commissions set up today, as a matter of fact, Holder announced that some of those folks responsible for the ship attack USS Cole attack, in 2000, will be tried through military commissions, that’s the way it should be done for all of it. i can’t for the life of me figure out what Holder’s intent here, in terms of having Khalid Sheik Mohammed tried in a civilian court, other than to have some kind of show trial, they’ll simply use it as some sort of platform to argue their case, they don’t have a defense to speak of… it’ll be a place for them to stand up and spread the terrible ideology that they adhere too.

I think Cheney is right here, and I don’t think the Obama administration has yet realized the can of worms they’ve opened by doing this.
The reason we haven’t treated the 9/11 conspirators, and terrorists captured in the war on terror in general, as run-of-the-mill criminals arrested by law enforcement is because they aren’t run-of-the-mill criminals, and they aren’t being captured by law enforcement.
They are enemy combatants, and in a lot of instances they’re being captured by our military. Or by our intelligence agencies. Neither of which are law enforcement agencies, and the situations they work in are not conducive to traditional law enforcement practices.
But those law enforcement practices were built up to get convictions in civilian courts. If they’re not followed evidence gets thrown out. Charges get dismissed. Criminals and monsters go free.
This is a dangerous precedent the Obama administration is setting. One that will bear bitter fruit for this country, I’m afraid.

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  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    “They all are just angry close-minded bigots.”

    Nice ignorant generalization, but I doubt you can produce any evidence of what you claim. All you have is your Soros talking points, with nothing to back them up. I think you are so used to being in a leftie, antiAmerican echo chamber that your head explodes when real Americans expose you to the truth.

  • avs75

    I also like how you didn’t provide any answers to the questions I asked you. All you can do is comment on my username and call me bad names.

    Reminds me of Sarah Palin.

  • lock’em’up

    I wish there was video of Skelator interviewing Quasimodo.

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    Obama and his merry band of Marxists is trying to flush the Constitution down the toilet, moron.

  • AKA WOOF

    Why did the B administration try the 20th hijacker in Federal Court?

    Cheney forgot to tell us how he dragged GW out
    from under a couch on Air Force One.
    Told him it was an act of war.
    How he showed G his prepared declaration of war
    to take to congress.

  • avs75

    No, actually I get it from factual, real news, not FAUX news or morons like Rush Limbaugh. And what the hell are you talking about? The only username I’ve used is avs75. Shut the hell up and read a book.

    P.S. were not the racists. Look at your party.

  • avs75

    Good one kiddo.

  • avs75

    Nothing is so utterly far from the truth.

    Explain to me how Bush kept us safe from another attack and why 9/11 happened on his watch. And also explain to me why we invaded Iraq and found no “weapons of mass destruction.” And why Bush declared “Mission Accomplished” when we were far from any accomplishment and closer to failure. Also explain to me why Bush neglected the troops in Afghanistan and favored the war in Iraq.

    Tell me those things, oh wise one.

    LOL.

  • avs75

    I refuse to bend down to your pathetic level, using hate and harsh name calling like an angry fat kid in elementary school.

    I know my facts, I watch channels like NPR, BBC, MSNBC. I don’t watch Faux news because it’s full of overheated racist bigots like yourself who have nothing good to say about anything, and only stir up the pot creating unnecessary problems and resent for the people who watch it.

    The thing I love about this is how you get so mad, but yet have no argument and nothing intelligent to say. By the way, I’ve only used one username.

    Suck on that.

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    “Waterboarding isn’t torturing?”

    No, it’s not. For real torture(not interrogation), you have to go to Saddam Hussein, darling of the lefties.

  • djer

    wow, that was breaking news!

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    I’ve already explained how Clinton is responsible for 9/11, with facts and logic. Clinton also bequeathed the aftermath of the dot.com bubble to President Bush, in the form of a mild recession, amplified by the economic damage from the Clinton-enabled 9/11.
    It’s a fact that Bush/Cheney kept us safe until Obama took over and started his weak groveling, and now we have had a terrorist attack at Fort Hood, Iran is progressing toward nukes, because Obama wants to “talk” to them instead of being tough, and Obama’s submissive gestures toward world leaders has emboldened the terrorists to consider us ripe for the picking.
    The war in Iraq was the right move. IMO, we should have gone straight there instead of dithering in Afghanistan. Had we done that, and had the Dems not prolonged the war in Iraq with their cowardly treason and undermining the fight against the terrorists, we could have deposed Saddam and freed the Iraqi people years earlier, then gone into Afghanistan to mop up the rest of AQ, while supporting the freedom fighters in Iran to overthrow the Carter-enabled ayatollahs.
    In the meantime, ramping up domestic energy production would have yielded trillions in income, and would have created millions of jobs lost from Carter’s energy debacle.
    There was no “neglect” in Afghanistan; it was a backwater, and was largely stabilized until Obama started dithering and showing weakness internationally.
    Thanks for the Soros talking points, but I can just pick those up from any of the leftie hater blogs.
    Any original thinking from you, or just the same old pap?

    BTW, it is you who have constantly attacked the real Americans on this blog, and some of us are giving it right back to you; stop squealing. You get back what you put out. You spew antiAmerican hate, and you get smacked with the truth. Count on it.

  • sayanything-2

    So, which usename you going to decide on, avs??? Pick one, and provide all this copious, irrefutable proof that everything from Fox is a lie? Lay it on us, c*nt.

  • avs75

    How about…. ALL of them?

    Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilley, you name it.

    They all are just angry close-minded bigots. They don’t produce facts, or news, they just attack the President for every move he makes, good or bad. They are harmful to media.

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    You mean the “real news” outlets who are trying to ignore the Data Faking Climate Change Liars? Some “news”.
    Fox continues to beat the MSM to the punch on all the stories Americans care about, like the ACORN corruption.

  • sayanything-2

    Because he was arrested by civilian law enforcement, you f*cking moron. But you knew that when you posted that sh$t.

  • avs75

    Fox News as well as MSNBC are politically biased news stations. When I want to hear opinions that relate more to me and my own opinions, I prefer the second one, but when I want real news and facts, I choose NPR, BBC and PBS.

    And this Robert idiot needs to stop talking about “Soros talking points.” I don’t even know what that means. And I am a “real” American, whatever that means.

  • sayanything-3960

    I think him having them tortured was a big mistake.

    I really don’t care what Dick Cheney thinks.

  • avs75

    Cheney is a joke, no one but these conservative talk show hosts admire the guy. If he was so wise and great, his politics would have been successful while him and Bush were in office. In reality, they actually put this country into a near depression and only made it more unsafe and torturing terror “suspects,” lying to the American people to invade Iraq and causing panic and hate towards this country. If he was so smart, why didn’t we catch Osama bin Laden, and why did we neglect Afghanistan to invade Iraq? Obama isn’t “neglecting” our troops, they’ve been neglected for a long time, and by Bush/ Cheney.

  • sayanything-2

    This, from a mental retard who can’t decide on a usename. F*ck you.

  • Jane

    Are you guys serious?

    Dick Cheney’s political advice are about as credible as Kenneth Lay’s business advice.

    He was the CEO of the Guns/Ammo company, Halliburton, and then he becomes the VP and who do you think gets the billion dollar contracts?

    No torturing? Waterboarding isn’t torturing?

    What about the photos that Cheney was nearly begging Obama to not release?

    There are many things the world must awake to.

    First, there is no Left/Right. There is only elitists and the non-elitists.

    see www DOT informationliberation DOT com to see reality

    I beg you!

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    President Bush and VP Cheney kept us safe from the terrorists for seven years, and after one year in office, Obama/Biden have subjected us to a terrorist attack already, with more to come, no doubt.
    You lefties hate Cheney because he is a strong American, but you don’t have the guts to try to f*ck with him. Coward!

  • sayanything-2407

    How about…. ALL of them?

    Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilley, you name it.

    They all are just angry close-minded bigots. They don’t produce facts, or news, they just attack the President for every move he makes, good or bad. They are harmful to media.

    First, you are obviously misinformed.
    Those you listed are Opinion and commentators, not newscaster or news anchors. Though I hate to lump them, they are the same type (opinion and commentator) as Maddow, Olberman, chris matthews, ect.

    2nd, you give a blanket statement and say everything they say is bigoted and racist, please provide proof. We tend to like to see what your talking about – and possibly see where your getting your information so we can either agree, disagree or debunk it.

  • sayanything-2

    This is another one of the seminar commenters that infest the blogsphere like cockroaches, got its talking points and is too stupid to even switch what order it copies them off the sheet in. Hits each point exactly in the order it reads them. No original thought, and damned well not any kind of American. Tell us, are you in Montreal, or Calais? Perhaps Belfast, or maybe Basel, lots of socialist wannabes there. Which one you in, avs??, which cesspool of leftist stupidity are you rusticating in?

  • sayanything-2

    Real news? npr? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Too f=cking funny. That nearly made me cough coffee on my screen.

  • sayanything-203

    The Obama White House and Obama himself have stated that we are at war with al Qaeda and that these “detainees” are captured prisoners of that war.

    The status of prisoners of war is determined by the 1949 Geneva Conventions, and I don’t believe that those same Geneva Conventions that the Left has been carping about almost since 9-12-01 allow for the trial of captured combatants, legal or illegal, in the civilian courts of the capturing country.

    Eric Holder says that these trials will be a demonstration of America’s commitment to its principles for the rest of the world to see. Eric Holder is a pluperfect liar… and not a particularly competent one either.

    The point of these trials is to divert attention from the Obama administration’s almost total lack of accomplishment both at home and abroad. It is the ancient Roman circuses all over again… only this time the Islamists are the Christians. “The One” has already pronounced their sentence.

  • sayanything-51

    Big 180:

    President Bush and VP Cheney kept us safe from the terrorists for seven years,

    But they failed miserably in their first year.
    Why do nutters always ignore The Truth?

  • avs75

    um, either you’re a freaking retard or you’re 11.

    learn how to spell, and make a sentence that actually make sense before you go on a computer and talk to adults.

  • sayanything-203

    But they failed miserably in their first year.

    Some people see it that way. But even then, they only failed that once. Their Democrat predecessors failed six times… seven if you count not grabbing bin Laden when they were offered the chance. And of course had Clinton taken bin Laden the horror of 9-11-01 might very well not have happened.

  • sayanything-2

    avs??, yet another sad a$$ed anti-American f%ck. Waawaawaawaawaa, cry us a river, we love laughing at your lame a$$ed sh*t.

  • sayanything-203

    Jane,

    Why don’t you go find some cookies to bake, dearie. If you use PAM they won’t stick quite so bad.

  • sayanything-2

    Where do you racist, anti-American Democrat a$$holes get all this bullsh*t from, in email or directly from the toilet?

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    As we all know, 9/11 was Clinton’s failure; he failed to eliminate AQ after they bombed the WTC in ’93, treating it like a street crime, so that AQ could grow and prosper until it was strong enough to attack us again on 9.11. The hijackers all entered the country during Clinton’s regime, where his loose visa policies allowed them to stay and train for their “mission” undetected. His “wall of separation” policy for our intel assets allowed the hijackers to remain undetected while they attended flight school. Clinton also ignored AQ’s declaration of war against us in ’98.
    9/11 was all Clinton’s failure. As usual, Republicans were left to clean up the leftie mess.

  • sayanything-51

    Some people see it that way. But even then, they only failed that once.

    BRAAAAHAHABBARAHAHAHAHAHAAHBBBHAHAHA

    Hilarious!!!!

    The worst attack on Americans soil after which they went to war with a country that did not and could not attack us and you fluff it off as failing only once!

    Oh B O, you’re a pip!

  • sayanything-2407

    I know my facts, I watch channels like NPR, BBC, MSNBC. I don’t watch Faux news because it’s full of overheated racist bigots like yourself who have nothing good to say about anything, and only stir up the pot creating unnecessary problems and resent for the people who watch it.

    Curious – whom do you think is racist bigots on Fox News? What News Anchors oR News Person is Racist or Bigoted?

  • sayanything-2

    So, you just hop from thread to thread, changing your usename and spew your racist a$$ed Democrat sh*t? OK, we know what you are now.

  • avs75

    The fact of the matter is, Dick Cheney and George W. Bush held this country by it’s neck for eight horrifying years. During those years, the U.S. Constitution was flushed down the toilet, we ripped the rights of our citizens right out of their hands, we displayed sickening acts of torture on people as if we were living in the 17th century, and we invaded a country who had NOTHING to do with the terrorist attack on our soil. I am a Democrat, but I believe in revenge and that this country is the best in the world. If I had the choice, I would have sent the Rangers/ SEALS to Afghanistan, Pakistan, wherever they were, and assassinated every one of the people who plotted against us and had anything to do with September 11, 2001.
    Bringing the people to the country they attacked and holding them accountable is courageous and honorable. Holding them in mucky third-world cells and torturing them for sometimes useless information is sad, dishonorable and primitive. Dick Cheney is a moron, and so is George Bush. What good came from their Administration? I feel so sorry for Barack Obama; the man has to clean up the mess those too hate mongers left, and he’s criticized by the far right by everything he does, because he’s black. He’s trying his best to produce progress and positive change for this country and the idiotic white supremacist Evangelical Republicans have to stop him at every corner. Why? No one knows.

    Let the man do his damn job, idiots.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Cheney derangememt syndrome.

  • sayanything-4808

    The only racists are the liberals, whose leadership is lily white, overwhelmingly male, and who condescend with every word to everyone else.

    To them blacks cannot be held accountable because to them blacks are incapable of being held to the same high standards as white folks. To them, no matter how much progress is ever made by women, society will always be assumed to be dominated by males because they necessarily believe females are weaker.

    LIBERALS are the bigots.

    Liberals believe in a collective without the will of the comprising individuals. Conservatives believe in the will of the individuals creating what collectives they freely choose to without coercion. Liberals believe in straight white men handing out table scraps to every group they can assign people to. Conservatives believe in everyone achieving whatever they can on their own or in association with each other by their own choice.

    LIBERALS are the condescending arrogant bigots.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Well some people care. As opposed to the nobody who cares what you think.

    And nobody was tortured.

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