Associated Press Attempts To Rally The Uninsured To March On Washington

All that’s missing from this overwrought article bemoaning the number of Americans without health insurance is the name and contact information for an AP reporter who will organize the march of the uninsured on Washington.

WASHINGTON – If the uninsured were a political lobbying group, they’d have more members than AARP. The National Mall couldn’t hold them if they decided to march on Washington.
But going without health insurance is still seen as a personal issue, a misfortune for many and a choice for some. People who lose coverage often struggle alone instead of turning their frustration into political action.
Illegal immigrants rallied in Washington during past immigration debates, but the uninsured linger in the background as Congress struggles with a health care overhaul that seems to have the best odds in years of passing.
That isolation could have profound repercussions.

The obvious intent here is to create the notion that there are armies of uninsured Americans out there who are struggling with out health coverage. But that’s not exactly accurate.
For instance, some 500,000 people nationwide who were eligible for the Child Health Insurance Program (the old one, not the expanded behemoth the Democrats have passed into law) haven’t enrolled in it. And I don’t know about the rest of you, but I routinely see articles like this one in the media about bureaucrats trying to close the “health care gap” by getting people signed up for government programs they’re eligible for.
What’s more, while politicians like Obama like to toss around a US Census number tabulating some 45 million Americans as being uninsured, the reality is that tens of millions of those 45 million are eligible for existing government health care programs and simply have not enrolled in them. This is a hard number to quantify, but ballpark it’s around 30 million people with another approximately 12 million having income levels above $50,000/year which is certainly enough for most people to secure their own health care.
So, even going with conservative estimates on the number of the uninsured who have insurance available to them, the reality is that most of them really are choosing to be uninsured.
Given that reality, why should Americans be stuck paying exhorbitantly high new taxes (not to mention get stuck opting-in to a one-size-fits-all government health care system that gives us all universal access to the same mediocre care) given that most of the people who don’t have health insurance now aren’t covered by choice?
We can’t save people from themselves. The sooner we stop trying, the better off we’ll be.

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  • http://Array Mickey

    meanwhile….this from NYPost:

    “Michelle Obama is the nation’s first lady to add a full-time makeup artist to her traveling entourage, according to stylists who have worked with presidential wives over the past 16 years”

    Well I suppose it qualifies as a medical expense because she does have a giant misshaped head.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus Last Best Hope

    and now the new “first dog” is unleashed…we’re living in a land of make believe. Obama is killing hope that America can survive his assult on our values.

    special pizza runs, a “makeup” staffer, a dog, a bow of submssion for all the world to witness and a teleprompter that holds every answer to every MSM pre-screened question…welcome to lala lib land where even skinny pirates in small boats are laughing at US.

  • Spartacus

    Medicare patients receive the HIGHEST quality care

    That’s pretty for the government to cover considering the small percentage of the population that qualify for and receive medicare. If you shift the majority of the population over to medicare the system would be bankrupt within a year or two unless the government collected thousands of dollars in additional taxes from every wage earner in the country. You’d be better off saving those tax dollars to spend on your own health insurance policy and save the remainder for the unlikely circumstance that do incur a condition not covered by your policy.

  • foodandart

    No, 2hotel9, but you can offer a STEEP break or forgiveness outright of med school loans if the student takes an internship in smaller rural hospital or community as a GP for five or six years after graduation.

    What you get out of that on the front end of healthcare pays off directly, when the people in under-served areas get decent care.

    You think the chronic disease care that Medicare pays for starts once you hit 65? It starts at 30 or 35 or 40 – hell it’s started RIGHT now for the countless 14 year olds with diabetes and obesity problems.

    And SOMEONE is going to pay for it sooner or later.

    Besides, if you talk to people that go into medicine – almost 90% choose specialty training over GP/Internal Medicine because they get raped by the payment costs of their loans AND their malpractice insurance burdens. When I had a hosptal administrator tell me point blank (AFTER I paid CASH for a surgery IN FULL) that their biggest cost constraint was the COLLECTIVE bargaining price agreements that the *insurers* DEMANDED they accept lest they be removed from the list of accepted network of providers. That opened my eyes, esp. as the hospital I went to was part of a chain that was KNOWN for charing the uninsured THREE times what it could charge the insured. (I dug my heels in and got the lower insurance rate – the hospital was not happy)

    It was LESS than what Medicare/Medicaid pay, BTW. You won’t hear THIS gem of information out there precisely because these contracts are bound, like most ALL insurance contracts are, by *confidentiality clauses* so the general public doesn’t know how much they’re getting screwed.

    The insurance industry’s attitude is, that if you do business with us: you shut up about it and take what WE give you. Like a bunch of racketeers.

    But I digress.

    What there needs to be is a way to get the up and coming med students who WISH to give back to their country a way to do it AND be clear of the financial burdens medical school leaves them with.

    It’s not like the government can’t offer these cuts – what the heck, they are ALREADY the ones footing the bills FOR the college loans AND the health fiascos that arise by age 65 from a lifetime of insurance controlled care.

  • foodandart

    Well, no matter what – if everyone is FORCED a la Taxachusetts’ to BUY insurance coverage from private insurers or gets access to a government-bcked pool the bigger issue STILL awaits, and that is LACK OF PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS.

    I live in New Hampshire so I’ve a front row seat to the stupidity south of the State line. There are people now in Mass. waiting for well over a YEAR to get in to see an MD for simple things like physicals.

    You won’t hear much about THIS nightmare beyond what’s printed in the local papers. It’s quite a problem and a lot of Mass residents are getting pissed that they have to pay for coverage of medical care they cannot ACCESS.

    Now THAT is a pure profit scenario for the Bay State insurers – those fucks must be laughing all the way to the bank.

    foodandart

  • tothestars2

    I wonder how many obese,smokers,who consume large amounts of illegal drugs and alcohol will attend such rallies.Just sayin.

  • jimmypop

    if they cant afford insurance how the f are they going to afford to take the time off from work and a trip to washington DC?

  • foodandart

    AS one of those uninsured supposedly screaming for coverage Americans, I unfortunately don’t WANT coverage – alas, because the quality of care that protocol driven, insurance dominated ‘care’ that 99.9% of MD’s are ALLOWED to practice, is a fraction of the quality it should be.

    Here..http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/11/1147

    When the INSURED get lower quality care than those on Medicare or those that pay cash, what hard truth does that say about how foolish it is to let OTHERS PAY FOR YOUR MEDICAL CARE?

    What MOST who have insurance and are happy with it don’t realize is that their medical needs fall within the 50% bell-curved average of patients that the insurance industry makes the most money off of.

    The minute they fall outside the actuarial table calculations – all bets are off. Hence the sheer number of insured who are STILL falling into bankruptcy or losing coverage to recision of their policies. A fair warning to those WITH insurance: It’s only a matter of time, before your number may be up and the care you as an INDIVIDUAL need to get back on your feet, isn’t what the *protocol* demands the MD do for you.

    It was this statistical fiat in action in December of 2007 that CIGNA used to kill 17 year old Nataline Sarkisyan! The liver transplant she needed had a 65% chance of success 6 months out. Once she got to that point, it was likely that the transplant would take and she’d survive. A CIGNA claims adjustor looked at the claim and measured it against the PROTOCOL for leukemia she was receiving (such protocols for this disease are KNOWN to cause liver failure, BTW) and called it ‘experimental and unproven..” and foot-dragged until it was too late for the girl.

    Funny how insurance companies can say no to treatments that rate 65% but EVERYONE in America is supposed to say ‘yes’ to insurance-dominated medical procedures that rate 54.9 to 60% of what they should be!

    If these craptasic numbers represent the BEST that the insurance dominated American Medical Industry can offer, I’ll pass. With the money I don’t give to some cretin insurance industry middleman in my bank account collecting interest, I can go overseas to get better care – more affordably and higher quality too.

    foodandart

  • http://UninsuredAmerica.blogspot.com/ John_Mayer

    Are you uninsured in America? You should check out the website http://UninsuredAmerica.blogspot.com – John Mayer, California

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Remember, the government which DOES rely on income taxes to fund itself, has a very vested interest in keeping as many fit as possible. Ill people don’t create tax revenue, they spend it.

    People stuck waiting on line at the DMV or post office aren’t earning money either.

    I sure want those same boneheads to be telling me what services I can or can’t have.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Look for the usual suspects that show up for the free food at these things to show up.

  • Spartacus

    the bigger issue STILL awaits, and that is LACK OF PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS.

    Do you have a solution to propose in the event that the situation you foresee is true?

    I certainly hope it’s not forcing people to pursue a career in medicine. I sure wouldn’t want to be in the position of having to visit a doctor who would have chosen a career in, for example, journalism if he/she were allowed to.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I second Goon’s suggestion.

  • docdave

    Don’t we have enough government programs already to provide for those not covered by private insurance? Certainly medicare and medicaid covers most of the so-called uninsured.

    Once again the media is in lockstep with the government to secure more control over our lives. I wonder if anybody in AP understands that the media is also inline for government control not that it would make much difference in their collaborative reporting.

  • http://UninsuredAmerica.blogspot.com/ John_Mayer

    Are you uninsured in America? You should check out the website http://UninsuredAmerica.blogspot.com – John Mayer, California

  • Spartacus

    and called it ‘experimental and unproven..” and foot-dragged until it was too late for the girl.

    You’ll start hearing that excuse used more and more in the future, especially if or when the government starts picking up the tab for medical procedures. The FDA has decided to place severe limits on the use of the 510(k)exemption, forcing medical device makers to go through lengthy clinical trails before receiving market approval from the FDA. Most insurers consider clinical trials to be experimental and unproven.

  • http://UninsuredAmerica.blogspot.com/ johnmayer

    Are you uninsured in America? You should check out the website http://UninsuredAmerica.blogspot.com – John Mayer, California

  • 2Hotel9

    I think this is a great idea!! March on Washington and tell the assholes in Congress and government to STAY THE FUCK OUT OF THE MEDICAL CARE PROVIDING BUSINESS!! Yes, we need to do this, and fast.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    The obvious intent here is to create the notion that there are armies of uninsured Americans out there who are struggling with out health coverage. But that’s not exactly accurate.

    Since when is the left interested in facts or accuracey? :)

  • 2Hotel9

    Yep! Slavery is so attractive when you dress it up with a bunch of socialist fucking bullshit.

    Fuck you. And the socialist fucking horse you rode in on, you anti-human fucking cocksucker.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    I think we should send ICE agents just in case some of the Illegals show up.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    I would like to know why the government thinks we need to pay for all of these uninsured people’s health care? Some of which don’t have a legal right to be in this country in the first place. The ones NOBAMA wants to give shamesty too so his buddies can have a bigger voting block voting for them.

  • http://UninsuredAmerica.blogspot.com/ johnmayer

    Are you uninsured in America? You should check out the website http://UninsuredAmerica.blogspot.com – John Mayer, California

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    The University of North Dakota Medical school costs the state a TON of money, 34.5 million dollars in the last biennium.

    I don’t mind some support for college students but at some point we have to realize the main beneficiaries of a medical degree is the person who’s got a great earning potential.

    Why shouldn’t they pay part of the costs of their education?

  • robert108

    I don’t think that the 25% of the uninsured who are illegal aliens will be marching; ditto the achievers who prefer to pay cash for their healthcare, or those younger Americans who don’t need to be paying for healthcare they’re not going to use until they’re much older. Even then, the remaining fraction is likely to have health insurance soon, as they are in transition from one job to another.
    Like all other class envy arguments from the lefties, this one is exaggerated; unless leftie community organizers bribe a lot of homeless people to march, I don’t expect much to happen.

  • 2Hotel9

    Simply put, you can not force people to be doctors and nurses. End of discussion.

  • foodandart

    Well, on the other side of it Spartacus, there Is the reality that Medicare patients receive the HIGHEST quality care, seconded only by the VA which comes in at 67%.

    Remember, the government which DOES rely on income taxes to fund itself, has a very vested interest in keeping as many fit as possible. Ill people don’t create tax revenue, they spend it.

    Conversely, the insurance companies can and do use any excuse to drop one from coverage the moment they reach the policy care threshold or become chronically ill. This is how they take money from the customer when they are young and healthy and deny care once the medical needs begin. Christmas bonuses for everyone, and the person’s health bill can be picked up by the taxpayer, so the insurer profits no matter what.

    NOWHERE do you EVER see a lifetime policy buy-in available. The insurers would rather eat the heads off babies than ever fully vest a customer’s policy that’s been paid in over three or four decades – and you won’t EVER hear THAT option on a table. Oh Dear God, no. The numbers of people who’ve paid on policies and maintained good health yet STILL end up priced out of affording coverage as they get older speaks to the truth of this.

    I look at it this way, seeing as the government *ostensibly* works for ME:

    If the government doesn’t want to make sure that I get the BEST care available and instead decides to fob off this responsibility to a bunch of shyster middleman cockroaches who constantly look for ways to get out of their obligations, I for sure do not have to go out and earn 100′s of thousands of dollars a year.

    I’ll chase after minimum wage work – part time, before I do business with insurers. I am not so shallow to think that more is better or NEED to have all the consumerist, material crap the debtor-class thinks is necessary for a good life. Fuck that noise. If staying low-income will keep me at the threshold to be able to pick up government care that is a part of an ALREADY BETTER DELIVERY SYSTEM, (look at the Medicare numbers!) I’m there baby.

    And don’t let’s play the ‘rationed’ care baloney. As it is, the insurance industry is already rationing care – hence the low qualitative scores we’re ALREADY seeing.

    WTF, if insurance was SO good, we would not be EXACTLY where we are with the whole system ready to crash and burn. They’ve had almost 50 years to get their shit together, and this is the best they can do.

    Call me unimpressed.

    I’ve been burned by protocol driven, insurance-dominated ‘care’ (doctors malpractice and hospital liability being a big part of it, but that is the absolute third rail of insurance reform NO one wants to admit even exists) and for it I had my eyes opened to the reality of medicine by statistics.

    As long as the insurers running the numbers act like crooked bookies who don’t care about anything but profits, medical care in America will be a piss-poor joke. If this is the case, I might as well go for government coverage.

    Right now, it’s better.

    foodandart

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Oh yeah, if they’ve got an incentive for us all to be working, why are they paying so many people to do nothing?

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