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Why don’t you post the speech so this can be put into context instead of a random quote from the NY Post?

Oh, I know why.  You aren’t interested in context.  It might ruin your propaganda.

Here’s the entire speech, cupcake, along with video.  I found it in about 3 seconds with Google.

You really should figure out how to work it one of these days.

Now, I’m sure you’ll point out for us this “context” you speak of which changes the meaning of Obama’s words.  Here’s the excerpt in question:

But I also understand that nothing worthwhile in this country has ever happened unless somebody somewhere is willing to hope, when somebody is willing to stand up, somebody who’s willing to stand up when they’re told, "No, you can’t," and instead they say, "Yes, we can."

(APPLAUSE)

That’s how this country was founded, a group of patriots declaring independence against the mighty British empire. Nobody gave them a chance, but they said, "Yes, we can."

That’s how slaves and abolitionists resisted that wicked system and how a new president chartered a course to ensure we would not remain half-slave and half-free.

That’s how the greatest generation—that’s how the greatest generation, my grandfather fighting in Patton’s army, my grandmother staying at home with a baby and still working on a bomber assembly line, how that greatest generation overcame Hitler and fascism and also lifted themselves up out of a Great Depression.

That’s how pioneers went west when people told them it was dangerous. They said, "Yes, we can."

That’s how immigrants traveled from distant shores when people said their fates would be uncertain. Yes, we can.

That’s how women won the right to vote, how workers won the right to organize, how young people like you traveled down South to march, and sit-in, and go to jail, and some were beaten, and some died for freedom’s cause. That’s what hope is.

(APPLAUSE)

That’s what hope is. That’s what hope is, Madison, that moment when we shed our fears and our doubts, when we don’t settle for what the cynics tell us we have to accept, because cynicism is a sorry kind of wisdom.

When we instead join arm in arm and decide we are going to remake this country, block by block, precinct by precinct, county by county, state by state, that’s what hope is.

There’s a moment in the life of every generation when that spirit has to come through, if we are to make our mark on history, and this is our moment. This is our time.

Seems pretty clear to me that Obama is not only comparing his campaign to the fight against fascism, but also the womens’ suffrage movement, the abolitionist movement, and the civil rights movement.

Talk about arrogance.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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This will indeed be a defining moment in the history of the United States of America.  On the other side, I would equate the upcoming vote to the cold war against communism.

Communism is evil

You think its bad now? Just wait until Obama loses. Then we’ll be stuck listening to everyone on the left bitch about how “the forces of evil have triumphed”, “the racist fascists have scored another victory due to the ignorance of Americans”, and “the only way McCain could have won was through voter fraud”. Its almost nauseating thinking about the rhetoric that will be tossed around come November 5.

You obviously didn’t read the speech, just the NY Post.

He was saying that things don’t change by themselves, that you have to step up and do something. 

If you think that a Presidential canidate is arrogant for asking for votes, than every President in our history has been arrogant.

You cannot gloss over the fact he used those words, “That’s how the greatest generation—that’s how the greatest generation, my grandfather fighting in Patton’s army, my grandmother staying at home with a baby and still working on a bomber assembly line, how that greatest generation overcame Hitler and fascism and also lifted themselves up out of a Great Depression;” words have meaning, and Osamabama is comparing his campaign to, among other things, overcoming Hitler and Fascism. If his campaign is promoting him in the role of Champion against forces of evil, what evil is he fighting today? Is it the Republican Party, Conservatism, those forces not liberal and socialist in nature.

I am quite frankly more concerned about Oprah’s words, “Oprah merely calls him, “The One,” saying he will help us “evolve to a higher plane.” This is the kind of talk that raises dictators to power, casting them in the role of Messiah, Savior and god over all other men. It is also new age terminology and the very terminology that will bring the anti-Christ to world power. Behind such evil men there must be others with large numbers of followers willing to declare them divine and superior to all other men. 

For the atheists, agnostics and secularists Oprah’s words and the Messiah image of Obama will not be of much interest; but every Christian should be alarmed at the image of this man that is being promoted that hints of something quite evil.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

my grandfather fighting in Patton’s army

who writes this stuff for B Hussein?

It’s as bad as Kerry Ssaluting at reporting for duty LOSER speech.

For the atheists, agnostics and secularists Oprah’s words and the Messiah image of Obama will not be of much interest;

I think you would be quite surprised over the number of “atheists, agnostics secularists” who are alarmed and disturbed by this.

Worshipping our leaders is never a good thing. As you correctly point out, it often leads to dictatorships and tyranny.

That’s how the greatest generation—that’s how the greatest generation, my grandfather fighting in Patton’s army, my grandmother staying at home with a baby and still working on a bomber assembly line, how that greatest generation overcame Hitler and fascism and also lifted themselves up out of a Great Depression.

Funny how when he’s not talking about how great his grandmother was, he’s calling her a racist.

Ken: It was my desire to admit different views up front and hopefully cut off any debate on that issue, rather just sticking with the troubling images Oprahs words portray.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Living way out of town, the candidates in my area still actually make house calls.THey’ll each come by & explain their position & ask for your support.
I don’t feel that asking for my vote is arrogant.
As a matter of fact, I can respect them for asking.
That said, there’s a BIG difference between asking for my vote & the arrogance that obama exudes.
Especially since he’s really only had about 150 days of experience.
I’ve got more days active duty in a DMZ but that doesn’t qualify me to be a General.

You guys got it wrong, he’s channeling Joeseph Stalin again just like when he was ta"king about liberating Auschwitz. 

Sarcasm

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

That’s what hope is. That’s what hope is, Madison, that moment when we shed our fears and our doubts, when we don’t settle for what the cynics tell us we have to accept, because cynicism is a sorry kind of wisdom.

Funny, but the biggest cynics I’ve known for the past decade are Liberal Democrats.

Obama speaks like a lib with pretzel logic arguments.

He was saying that things don’t change by themselves, that you have to step up and do something. 

Lestat, he’s likening the promised “change” of his candidacy to the “change” of women’s suffrage, abolished slavery and cast-down fascist tyrants.

The man thinks far too much of himself, which is something you’d recognize if you’d stop worshiping him for a moment and consider who he really is.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Seems pretty clear to me that Obama is not only comparing his campaign to the fight against fascism, but also the womens’ suffrage movement, the abolitionist movement, and the civil rights movement.

He is not “comparing”, he is talking about hope and how having the power of hope can accomplish things and overcome things that seem difficult to overcome.  He is not saying, “fighting to elect me is like fighting the Fascists”, you dishonest hack.

This is demonstrated by his words:  That’s what hope is. That’s what hope is,..

He is clearly talking about hope, not himself.

Talk about arrogance.

Go ahead and talk about arrogance.  Make the connection, I challenge you!!

But I would rather talk about stupidity, because that is what you are demonstrating.

You can try and fail or you can never try at all.  Obama is just rallying people to have enough hope to try! 

You are an dishonest hack or a complete idiot.

Lestat, he’s likening the promised “change” of his candidacy to the “change” of women’s suffrage, abolished slavery and cast-down fascist tyrants.

He did not speak specifically about his brand of change, you liar.

He is talking about hope in general and how people who believe can do things.  That rule applies weather he is in the picture or not.  You complete dishonest dip!

Not that you’ll ever admit that a critic of Obama is right about anything, Hannitized, but it’s worth noting this from the end of the excerpt I posted above:

When we instead join arm in arm and decide we are going to remake this country, block by block, precinct by precinct, county by county, state by state, that’s what hope is.

Note the last part.  “That’s what hope is.” That’s the same thing he said at the end of his invocations of the womens’ suffrage movement, abolition movement, etc.

He’s drawing a parallel between his campaign and those movement.  And that, my friend, is an astounding level of arrogance.

As for Obama not invoking “change,” what do you think “remake this country” means?

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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what do you think “remake this country” means?

America is the greatest country on the planet. Together, we can change it!

Trolls. It’s what’s for breakfast!
And then I eat their lunch.

I “hope” Obama crash and burns in the election because I “believe” he is a racist demagogue.

Hey it works. I feel united with Americans everywhere.

America is the greatest country on the planet. Together, we can change it!

And make it not so great - that will teach those Americans a lesson.  [Oops, that’s you and me although I’m not sure about liberals.]

You don’t have to be a moron to be a liberal Democrat but it sure helps.

It’s called truth (the old way of doing business is hurting this country) and confidence(together we can make meaningful changes to better this country).

He’s drawing a parallel between his campaign and those movement.  And that, my friend, is an astounding level of arrogance.

He is drawing a parallel between hope and hope.  Hope applies to what ever you want it to point to.  After 9/11, we came together as a country and were fired up to combat our enemies, until Bush took it too far.  Americans were hopeful to defeat our enemies, does that make Bush arrogant to claim that we were hopeful?  Of course not.

The fact of the matter is, you just don’t like it that Obama can inspire people to hope.  That is what this boils down to, but you can’t correctly identify your beef, because you are desperate to slime him.

The fact of the matter is, you just don’t like it that Obama can inspire people to hope.

I don’t like it that Obama sees similarities between the fight against Hitler and his campaign against McCain.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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He did not speak specifically about his brand of change, you liar.

Which is precisely the problem.  There are no specifics.  No public policy pronouncements that are not subject to “change” depending on the age, racial, ethnic, and religious makeup of the audience at hand.  While those few that are issued from time to time, are essentially meaningless, counter-productive, or mere rhetorical pablum for the children of the Left.

And those children, like you, are stuck with this New Age, multi-culti Pied Piper, oblivious to the sheer inanity of what he says and you repeat with such rapt, mind-numbed obeisance.

It will be up to the grownups to save us all from this secular messiah.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

It will be up to the grownups to save us all from this secular messiah.

“I was concerned about a couple of steps that the Russian government took in the last several days. One was reducing the energy supplies to Czechoslovakia. Apparently that is in reaction to the Czech’s agreement with us concerning missile defense, and again some of the Russian now announcement they are now retargeting new targets, something they abandoned at the end of the Cold War, is also a concern.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

He is drawing a parallel between hope and hope.  Hope applies to what ever you want it to point to.  After 9/11, we came together as a country and were fired up to combat our enemies, until Bush took it too far.  Americans were hopeful to defeat our enemies, does that make Bush arrogant to claim that we were hopeful?  Of course not.

So, in saying that Rob’s completely wrong in making the connection...you admit that Obama is indeed saying what Rob claims...Do you realize just how stupid you sound?

And as for the “we were all united til Bush” bullshit...Leftists started telling us that 9/11 was our fault on...9/11. Michael Moore was saying that the fight in Afghanistan was evil from the moment we set boots on the ground. And Kerry, not Bush, divided Americans with his “Bush lied” bullshit. Leftists traitors caused the end of the “national unity” not Bush or his supporters.

Obama/Biden is not change. It’s more of the same.

So, in saying that Rob’s completely wrong in making the connection...you admit that Obama is indeed saying what Rob claims...Do you realize just how stupid you sound?

I NEVER said what Rob claimed was accurate.  I merely said Obama is talking about HOPE.....and what believing in hope can accomplish.

Being HOPEFUL and working on OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN are two different things.

Do you realize how stupid you sound Kenny?

I don’t like it that Obama sees similarities between the fight against Hitler and his campaign against McCain.

He doesn’t, only in your pea-brained mind he does.

WHERE IS THE WORD “CAMPAIGN” USED IN HIS SPEECH????

Hint: IT ISNT!!

You idiot!

I guess he didn’t say this while campaigning?

You’re a moron.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Whistler, you idiot....HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE POWER OF HOPE......while campaigning....not comparing.  You idiot.

As a leftie facist, Obama is merely telling us his context for politics.  He sees things in fascist terms.
Remember, it was Joe Stalin who criticized Hitler, as well, for breaking ranks with him.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

What Republicans don’t understand about Obama and liberals in general is that we are being inspired by Obama.

Republicans confuse his ability to inspire us with some self serving goal Obama must have, because they probably are used to it with their feeble candidates who offer nothing but self interest.

When Obama talks to us about our ability to change things by having the power of hopefulness, he is actually inspiring us to believe we can change things, instead of listening to the pundits and whiners who think only they have the answers and only their ideas are worthy of consideration.

This inspiration Obama is giving us has nothing to do with his campaign.

Only feeble minded idiots believe otherwise.  It is why i hate this site.  You guys are just a bunch of idiotic morons.

Smaller Robert: “Squawk, Facism....Squawk, Communism, Squawk”!

What Republicans don’t understand about Obama and liberals in general is that we are being inspired by Obama.

Oh, we realize it, alright.  This is why we generally regard you all as a bunch of morons.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

He was saying that things don’t change by themselves, that you have to step up and do something.

Straight out of Karl Marx.  We don’t want our country to be “changed” into a racially-divided, collectivist concentration camp.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.

”...HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE POWER OF HOPE......while campaigning....not comparing...”

For me, Hope is why someone buys a lottery ticket or sends Ed McMahon their entry for the Publishers Clearinghouse drawing.
I wouldn’t even THINK of using hope to steer a cross country trip.
I ESPECIALLY wouldn’t think of guiding the greatest Nation on this planet....and by proxy, the entire planet.....using hope!

Straight out of Karl Marx.  We don’t want our country to be “changed” into a racially-divided, collectivist concentration camp.

You are an idiot.  That doesn’t even deserve a response.

I ESPECIALLY wouldn’t think of guiding the greatest Nation on this planet....and by proxy, the entire planet.....using hope!

That is why you could never be a leader.  You have to first instill hope in people in order for them to believe that they can achieve great things.

Hope instills optimism and the promising advantage of success.  Who could refuse to accept hope? 

I would rather be hopeful, then hopeless.  Apparently, you are the latter and who could disagree with the conclusion about you that you have forced us to realize?

Hope has absolutely no bearing on success.
Preparation is the key to Success.
As for my Leadership skills, I prefer to lead by example…
demonstrate proficiency & build confidence by trudging through the very sesspools that I ask those that follow me have to wade through.
I strive for Excellence & refuse the spector of defeat.
I prove to my Men that,while there is a chain of Command,I am not a master link, but just another link...just like they are.
That, my friend, is how you Lead Alongside.
THat’s what gets the majority of your team Home

H fool: Real leaders lead by example, by actions, not by empty promises of “hope”. You just don’t get it.

Hope and change, in a free world, are the private possessions of motivated individuals.