Arlen Specter: I Supported The Stimulus Because Without It Our Economy Would Collapse

Arlen Specter tries to defend his break with Republican ranks to support the “economic stimulus” spending spree by indicating that he’s bought in to the fear mongering the Democrats are using to generate support for this crap sandwich.
Or, more likely, he’s using it himself.

I am supporting the economic stimulus package for one simple reason: The country cannot afford not to take action.
The unemployment figures announced Friday, the latest earnings reports and the continuing crisis in banking make it clear that failure to act will leave the United States facing a far deeper crisis in three or six months. By then the cost of action will be much greater — or it may be too late.

The problem, of course, is that if the government did nothing the Congressional Budget Office suggests that the economy would recover on its own by the end of the year.
When you add that reality in with the fact that, even if you buy into the idea that all this government spending can actually stimulate the economy, less than 50% of the bill’s spending will come in the next two years. Meaning that the economy might recover despite the stimulus.
Of course, if that were to happen Democrats would (with a hefty assist from their mouthpieces in the media) declare victory for their “stimulus” spending spree. And that would be a real shame. Because in the long run, all that spending is going to be a burden. Not a boon.

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  • http://Array carrick

    Hanatized:

    He emphasized that America has rejected the same old tired ways of do nothing, watching the economy collapse.

    The problem I have with this argument is that we have gone through recession after recession without major government intervention, and the duration of the recessions have typically been very.

    What is so vastly different about this recession, compared say to the 1980 recession, that mandates government intervention now, as opposed to then?

    Further, what is the economic theoretical support for the particulars of the spending spree economic stimulus package as it is currently framed?

    As far as I can tell the answers to these questions are a) very little, and b) none.

  • Hawk

    The problem, of course, is that if the government did nothing the Congressional Budget Office suggests that the economy would recover on its own by the end of the year.

    Can you quote where it says the economy will recover by the end of the year? Stop pretending you actually read that document. It says nothing of the sort.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    Spending money on condoms and liberal socialist programs does nothing for the economy. This is a Liberal Shopping spree to get all of the things that the Conservatives killed during the last 12 years.

  • DBdowner

    And hannitized if you read my post, please correct my errors for me. Thanks.

  • Kramer

    How can the Democrats blame this mess on Republicans or anyone else, here in Pennsylvania we have had the Democrats in control forever and now we are a bizzilion dollars in the hole… go figure

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    He emphasized that America has rejected the same old tired ways of do nothing, watching the economy collapse.

    Same talking point the dimbulb Claire McCaskill had! The only alternatives are do nothing or spend a trillion dollars!

    So much for “leadership”!

  • Hannitized

    Kenny misses the boat:

    He emphasized that America has rejected the same old tired ways of do nothing, watching the economy collapse.
    It is time for a change. - hannitized

    Yet a vast majority of Americans reject the bill. Hmmmm.

    Seems like Obama’s change isn;t that great. -Kenny

    Well it turns out CNN and Gallup tell a different story:

    Seventy-six percent of those questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Monday give President Obama a thumbs-up when it comes to the way he’s performing his duties, with 23 percent disapproving of the way Obama’s handling his job as president.

    How about the stimulus?

    While the President puts on a full court press, the debate over the more than $800 billion bill, which includes increased government spending and tax cuts, appears to have split the public. A slight majority, 54 percent, favor the bill, with 45 percent opposed.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/09/obamas-approval-is-high-but-the-stimulus-isnt-as-popular/

    Gallup says:

    A new Gallup poll asked respondents about the government’s efforts to pass a stimulus package. President Obama enjoys strong support; a plurality approve of congressional Democrats, while 58% disapprove of the way in which congressional Republicans have handled the issue.

    DOH!!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Hello…Spelling Bea…hello….Bea…?

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    Spector has got to go.

  • FedUp

    Specter is a moron, a RINO and needs to go away!

  • robert108

    Pure bullshit! Wasteful govt spending is the disease, not the cure.

  • Hannitized

    Obama’s town hall meeting was a powerfully delivered speech, where he did not use a TelePrompTer.

    He emphasized that America has rejected the same old tired ways of do nothing, watching the economy collapse.

    It is time for a change.

  • http://royjacobsen.squarespace.com/ Roy Jacobsen

    This is for all those morons–and I count Specter in that group–who shriek that “We have to do something!”

    When your house is on fire, I’ll be there with a few gallons of gasoline, pouring it on with gusto, and telling you that “We have to do something!”

    The current porkulus bill is to the economy as gasoline is to a burning house.

  • Bob

    It’s going to collapse anyway, regardless. I thought we could just hold on to the money and save something of it.

  • http://www.articlesbase.com/video-games-articles/can-you-download-free-nint petloverguy

    Yes, I agree there should be some action in order to save the economy.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    He emphasized that America has rejected the same old tired ways of do nothing, watching the economy collapse.
    It is time for a change.

    Yet a vast majority of Americans reject the bill. Hmmmm.

    Seems like Obama’s change isn;t that great.

    Can you quote where it says the economy will recover by the end of the year? Stop pretending you actually read that document. It says nothing of the sort.

    It’s predicting possible rcovery by 2010, which DOES mean by the end of the year. Reading fail by Hawk.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    when Obama fixes crap

    Oh the “fix” is in on this bill all right! Heh.

  • Hannitized

    At least Jimmy Carter can go to his grave knowing he wont be considered the biggest loser president.

    Rob and others are preparing their strategy of propping up the Bush recovery from the Bush recession, even though Bush isn’t in office.

    You know damned well that when Obama fixes crap they are going to claim it wasn’t broke in the first place.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Except, Barney Frank said that Bush wasn’t “doing nothing”. He said that spending was “bloated” under Bush. Now Hopey Changey wants to double that! (What exactly is 2X “bloated”?)

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    NOBAMA thinks he is still campaigning. Lots of buzz words for socialism and marxism.

  • DBdowner

    Hannitized was marginalized along time ago. I never read his comments and I never even feel a desire to address his inane and stupid comments. He is like a cheap version of RbB. He doesn’t no how to use effective sarcasm. He doesn’t have any command of the facts he tries to twist. His sarcasm is just blatant insults and completely lacks any wit.

    I read like 8 of his comments and that quickly cured any desire to hear what he has to say. So I would suggest others not waste their time with him. Why tell him he will be marginalized when you can just do it yourself?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Haven’t we already spent a Trillion dollars to save the economy? (Last years stimulus rebate and the TARP bill)

    Why are we to believe that Specters bill will be any less of a failure?

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    Oink Oink… Ya right! Our economy is going to collapse without all the Pork! He needs to be sent packing!

  • Hannitized

    What is so vastly different about this recession, compared say to the 1980 recession, that mandates government intervention now, as opposed to then?

    I think it’s the rate as which we are losing jobs. There hasn’t been that many jobs lost in one month in 34 years.

    There seems to be a lot more fear about this recession.

  • axxkicker

    Dude, Rome is burned DOWN. Bush and the republicans set fire to it and are now standing around, criticizing the democrats who are trying to put it out.

    GET A CLUE.

    to use an analogy echoed elsewhere, your comrades are trying to put out a fire with gasoline.

  • Bat One

    I think it’s the rate as which we are losing jobs. There hasn’t been that many jobs lost in one month in 34 years.

    H,

    And how much larger is today”s workforce than it was 34 years ago? Are the number of jobs lost more meaningful in making the comparison than the percentage of the overall workforce? And what of the illegals who were nowhere near the 12 to 20 million that they are estimated to be today?

    Raw numbers, without a significant context, are great for stirring passions, but there is more than a little dishonesty in the comparison as you’ve framed it.

  • DBdowner

    Reality,

    Bush’s economic collapse was caused by mortgage issues that he tried to stop and was blocked 17 times. Bush inherited the .com bust and he pulled us out of that one, which many economists said may not be possible.

    Get ready for Obama’s prolonged recession because it is going to rock. Keynesian stimulas is short term government infusion of spending. Obama’s plan is not even Keynesian by any definition.

    I have no problem with Keynesian economics. But anyone using his model must understand that he equivocates investment and government spending. Investment is qualitatively distinct from government spending. Investment involves the utilization of human capitol for the purpose of creating value to be purchased. Government spending dictates, executes, and distributes. Whether or not it creates value is of no consequence. This of course is why central planning always fails, as will Obama’s nightmare plan.

  • Hawk

    It’s predicting possible rcovery by 2010, which DOES mean by the end of the year. Reading fail by Hawk.

    Possible recovery is a great deal different than “suggests” recovery. When I read it, I don’t get nearly the rosey forcast you seem to have. And when you say “recover on its own by the end of the year” generally you would mean THIS year. Rob didn’t read this report he got his analysis from someplace else.

  • Big Al

    Sphincter stinks! What a moron!!!!

  • Kramer

    SigFan
    I too am from the former great state of Pennsylvania, #2 in voter fraud behind Illionis. Arlen Sphincter, the name is most fitting…do you have one for Fast Eddy Rendel?

  • Hannitized

    You lefty moonbats DON’T HAVE ANY. NONE. You spread fear, depression, lowered expectations, surrender. You’re like the voice of a devil entreating a would-be sinner to chose the wrong, selfish, short-sighted path. You’re the sort of twats that would have had us let Hitler have Europe and Japan the entirety of Asia and the Pacific. You’re capitulatists who’d give us over to Islamic Supremacism. You’re traitors to countless generations of Americans. When the people realize it, they will do to you and yours what the people belatedly do eventually in revolutions, put you up against the wall, to a gallows noose, to a guillotine. Your ways will result in our total destruction and the wiping out of what peace and prosperity and stability we’ve had on this planet.

    You’re slime and the sooner the people see it, the sooner you’ll marginalize yourself into obscurity and the sooner this world gets back to burying the old ways of bloody mayhem and moving forward to civility as default and knows war and genocide and ethnic warfare and self-righteous selfishness no more.

    Somebody didn’t take their meds.

    Thank you for that very well thought out argument and non ad hominem.

  • SigFan

    We folks in PA don’t call him Arlen Sphincter for nothing. Anyone who votes in favor of this mess needs a trip out behind the woodshed.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

    Dude, Rome is burned DOWN. Bush and the republicans set fire to it and are now standing around, criticizing the democrats who are trying to put it out.

    GET A CLUE.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Bush’s spending = bloated

    2X Bush’s spending = Salvation for the Nation

  • ken

    This stimulus thing is the largest theft ever in the entire history of the world. Its going to do nothing but provide a little wealth to friends of political pundents. But soon when Rome is burning, and our country fails and our money will have more BTU value than worth,we can look back and see what idiots we have elected.

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    SORRY, QUOTE ATTRIBUTION GOES TO ***HANNITIZED***

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    Hawk:

    Obama’s town hall meeting was a powerfully delivered speech, where he did not use a TelePrompTer.

    He emphasized that America has rejected the same old tired ways of do nothing, watching the economy collapse.

    It is time for a change.

    The CBO says that the economy will over the next ten years GET WORSE by this plan than doing nothing and will certainly self-correct almost entirely within two years, NOT collapse entirely as Specter, Obama, and every moonbat out there is fear mongering.

    So what’s the excuse again for fouling up our GDP and following a Japan-like plan that will result in a flattened non-competitive economy?

    So what’s the excuse again for kowtowing to Iran, Venezuela, and all the rest of the anti-American regimes which is already resulting in those regimes becoming emboldened and giving us the finger every time they get in front of the press?

    So what’s the excuse for dropping charges against the lead terrorist who would almost certainly be found guilty at trial for his part in the murder of Americans on the USS Cole?

    You lefty moonbats DON’T HAVE ANY. NONE. You spread fear, depression, lowered expectations, surrender. You’re like the voice of a devil entreating a would-be sinner to chose the wrong, selfish, short-sighted path. You’re the sort of twats that would have had us let Hitler have Europe and Japan the entirety of Asia and the Pacific. You’re capitulatists who’d give us over to Islamic Supremacism. You’re traitors to countless generations of Americans. When the people realize it, they will do to you and yours what the people belatedly do eventually in revolutions, put you up against the wall, to a gallows noose, to a guillotine. Your ways will result in our total destruction and the wiping out of what peace and prosperity and stability we’ve had on this planet.

    You’re slime and the sooner the people see it, the sooner you’ll marginalize yourself into obscurity and the sooner this world gets back to burying the old ways of bloody mayhem and moving forward to civility as default and knows war and genocide and ethnic warfare and self-righteous selfishness no more.

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