Are The Chrysler Dealerships Obama’s Shutting Down Owned Exlusively By Republicans?

Proof • May 26, 2009

An (admittedly not exhaustive) review seems to indicate as much.

To quickly review the situation, I took all dealer owners whose names appeared more than once in the list. And, of those who contributed to political campaigns, every single one had donated almost exclusively to GOP candidates. While this isn’t an exhaustive review, it does have some ominous implications if it can be verified.
However, I also found additional research online at Scribd (author unknown), which also appears to point to a highly partisan decision-making process. …
I have thus far found only a single Obama donor (and a minor one at that: $200 from Jeffrey Hunter of Waco, Texas) on the closing list.

That’s pretty damning.
Click through for the full analysis, but at least from this (again, not exhaustive) analysis the closings seem too lopsided to be mere chance.

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http://Array jimmypop

the real question; what percentage of dealerships are democrat to begin with?

sorry rob, this is a stupid article unless someone can show that 50% of dealers are libs and 50% pubs. my guess…. its 99% pub that own these places, so naturally they be the ones closed.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

Well rube, the answer to your headline is of course no.

Approximately 27% of those listed gave to the Dems.

Nice headline by the way.
robert108

Rbb has noticed that R180 has painted himself in a corner. Nope; in his desperate need to lie and deceive, little parrot failed to parrot “everything”. His impotent reply left that out, for his usual cherry-picking and quoting out of context.

Little R180 is left with no position and no principles when he is found to be on both sides of every argument. More lies from you, little H.
http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

I find r108′s insults as an extra beyond his arguments whereas Hannah, Dino, etc. mostly make random provocative statements, engage in insults and catcalling, toss it together and call it a post. What they put together lacks any logical coherence which is entirely in keeping with them being trolls.

Really? You find that calling someone a Lying Greek Faggot adds to the debate? I find endless posts of calling someone a liar without any argument whatsoever tiresome. I find endless personal attacks in lue of debate to be as moronic and childish as anything Dino posts. Robert is as big of a troll as Dino or Man Train.

So I cannot fault him here Kenny. If you insist on going down this road, you’re faced with either realizing you’re wrong and they are trolls or going the other direction and further deceiving yourself that they are actually sincere in which case they’d have to be intellectually and emotionally retarded on a level that amounts to arguing over the fine points of Stoicism with Corky from Life Goes On.

Ellinas, despite being a fool, is sincere in her desire to debate. E just her it’s head up her ass. Calling him/her a faggot is nothing more than Robert pretending he is superior. Rob may be wrong in his drive for gay marriage, but I don’t think any of us doubt his sincerity. You may disagree with me on what I believe, but is there doubt I am arguing what I believe? Neimann? Pparets? Dragon Poker?

All of us have been insulted by Robert for simply taking up positions he disagrees with. Ignoring the common “liar, liar pants, smear” nonsense he always uses, I have also been called: Fascist, Totalitarian, Liberal, Welfare Whore, Faggot, pothead, crackhead, leech, scum, etc for pointing out that his head is firmly affixed up his backside. And these insults replace argument. Even Dino feels the need to make up facts and provide links. Robert, usually doesn’t.

r108 merely acts as if they could be, says what he has to, demolishes what they spout, and it remains exposed ultimately as the nonsense it is. There’s no need really for anyone else to bother as r108 seems to enjoy it.
They are welcome to it.

However, as pointed out, it’s not relegated to just Dino, Hanni and Boob. It’s anyone he disagrees with at anytime, or, anyone who says something that he misunderstands.

If anything, r108′s constant attempts to argue with them as if they were even involved in the intellectual give and take when they aren’t is at the very least a sentimentality of assumption that they might learn anything. However, their provocative nonsense is designed to annoy and r108 responds perfectly as expected.

Yes, calling someone a Faggot or a pothead is trying to “argue as if they were involved in the intellectual”. Eye roll. Let’s recap here. RBB, for all his faults, posted the first fact in the thread.

Well rube, the answer to your headline is of course no. Approximately 27% of those listed gave to the Dems.
Nice headline by the way.

He’s right too. The methodology is not only flawed, it’s deceptive. Pointing out that only one person who made more than one donation was a Democrat skews the data. Rob bought it hook line and sinker. 27% of closees (for lack of a better word) were Dem, but the “review” found only one out of hundreds, less than 1%.

Robert responds that 73% proves a bias. (It doesn’t.) And he further claims that the Republican dealers were making money. (Both unproven and leads to the conclusion that the Dems weren’t.) And when called on the fact that he was clueless, he ignored my objections to the data to claim:

Just more lying smear in the absence of any valid argument.

Except there was fact. I raised valid, logical objections. I also called him the biggest ad hominim user on the board, but, as you would say, that’s just extra! I may have my faults, but I don’t “smear” people, and I certainly don’t do drive by snipes with no argument. You might say that his response was, oh, how to fairly call it…

Just more lying smear in the absence of any valid argument.
Hannitized

Does anyone here, including Dino, make more ad hominims than you? The average R108 post consists of the words “liar” “moron” “smear” “emotional stake” and some random insult.

Bingo.
brain trust

Instead of punishing republicans, I’m thinking that our dictator’s thought process is more on the line of limiting our choices so it is easier for the government to control our lives.

Saturday’s associated press story reports that the Obama administration is pressuring GM and Chrysler to shed dealerships. Dino, do a little reading you might learn something. Nice pajamas!
Hannitized

If this story is true and factual, why isn’t Fox News reporting it? A: Because it has not been proven to be factual yet, and because it is propaganda.

How is that not on topic R180???

Please tell me if you are big on facts and avoiding propaganda little R.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

What is “devious” about your own words?

You typed them didn’t you?
robert108

So, nothing on topic, as usual.
What’s the explanation for the fact that 73% of the ruined dealerships are owned by Republican contributors?
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

I take it back about the Great Con, Billow.

He will have a segment on the Hot For Teacher thing.

Any takers?
Jimmy

Ha ha reading blogs like this and the running comments is definitive evidence that the interwebs-blogosphere is ruled by idiots who come here taking a break from procreating with their brother and/or sister
Hannitized

my impression is that if no one refutes their constant deceptions, the blog will just be overwhelmed with their extreme left wing propaganda.

Robert180,

Let’s have a little test on facts, logic and propaganda.

If this story is true and factual, why isn’t Fox News reporting it? A: Because it has not been proven to be factual yet, and because it is propaganda.
Hannitized

Rob gets it wrong again.

Yawn.
Hannitized

The average R108 post consists of the words “liar” “moron” “smear” “emotional stake” and some random insult.

Just more lying smear

Two out of four in the first sentence.

Amazing.
http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

The 73% figure is of the total closings, not some sort of political quota. The real truth is whether any of those closing were making a profit, and how many of those which were closed were making a profit, and owned by Republican contributors.
Even one profitable dealership being closed is evidence of partisan bias.

Yet we don’t know which businesses were profitable, if any.

And if any of the Democrat owned ones were profitable, it shows there is no partisan bias. You don’t have enough facts to prove your case, but you just keep chugging along.

guess you don’t know what ad hominem means, Kenny.
It is an argument based solely on personal attack, with no other supporting information.
I have already explained to you how the lying greek faggot earned his name. It’s factual, and therefore, not an ad hominem.

Ad hominim means personal attack. It may be factual, but it’s still an attack. For example, if you stink because you never take a bath, it doesn’t mean that it’s not an ad hominim to call you a stinky bastard (even if your parents are unmarried). Factual doesn’t even enter in. Moreover, you use slurs like faggot when not even discussing homosexuality. Ellinas’ sexuality is irrelevant to almost any issue. And it’s still a slur. You argue the person, not the argument.

Just more lying smear in the absence of any valid argument.

So to prove me wrong, you use most of the words I said you use. What a twit.

Your cherry-pick leaves out all the supporting evidence I cite, and so is massively dishonest.
BTW, “emotional stake” is not an ad hominem. I disagreed with Rob on his failure to provide any affirmative argument for his position, then using lying smear to justify his refusal to furnish an argument. His responses to me on certain subjects are purely emotional, and I call him on that fact, along with all the rest of you who are unable to discuss rationally, factually and logically.
That includes you, Kenny.
Your entire rant was just one long ad hominem, which makes you a hypocrite.

Other than calling me a liar over and over, you have nothing here. Saying that you use ad hominims is not an ad hominim as it is relevant to the debate and is arguing AGAINST your argument. Just keep screaming “stupid face! lying stupid face!” and hope that I stop calling you on bullshit.
crshedd

simple question.

what percentage of car dealership owners nation wide are republican?

for this to be a real study, you would need to know that information. but then again, it may not fit into pre-conceived ideas.
Hannitized

Robert can’t tell if his is looking at himself in the mirror reading backwards or not.

He is on both sides of the same argument, all the time.
Hannitized

Rbb:

What are the odds that your namesake, Hannity, or the Great Conservative Billow Reilly covers it tonight?

I doubt anyone will take this on at this stage. They will wait until the facts are so convoluted that nobody could call them out on it.

Fox sticks to three things. Facts, lies and impossible to proves. This falls into the impossible to proves category.
Mickey

Close Chrysler for all I care. I’ll never buy another Chrysler or GM product thanks to obama.
Hawk

This is not only nonexhaustive analysis, it is poor analysis.

He didn’t even consider looking at the party affiliation of the dealerships that remained open.

Lies, damn lies and statistics.
robert108

Obama owns Chrysler, and 73% of the dealers shut down donated to the Republican Party. As a Chicago thug politician, Obama is just punishing those who opposed him.
It’s called evidence, little parrot.
http://thenewotforum.myfreeforum.org/index.php Lord_of_the_Norge

Seventy-three percent is overwhelming evidence of partiality. Sorry you are unable to understand that obvious fact.

Perhaps if you phrased it like a Colgate commercial he might understand. You know, something like: “Three out of four republicans are put out of business by Barry Soretoe.”
Hannitized

Rbb has noticed that R180 has painted himself in a corner.

Little R180 is left with no position and no principles when he is found to be on both sides of every argument.
Hannitized

Why isn’t Faux News reporting on this amazing partisan disaster?
robert108

What is “devious” about your own words?

Now, dishonest little parrot is going to pretend that he doesn’t constantly select words that deliberately give the wrong impression of what the person he plays his cut and paste game actually said.
It’s all you do, little parrot. You cherry-pick, quote out of context, and just outright lie. What you don’t do is tell the truth. You constantly twist and spin to promote your far left extremist, America-hating agenda.
Hannitized

I was just watching Fox News talking about the news, they reported on a teen who had fallen off a cruise ship, then immediately proceeded to talk about the fabulous weekend Martha McCaullum and Shepherd Smith had.

I just love how they report tragedy and then revert back to their personal pleasures. So caring.
Bat One

Why isn’t Faux News reporting on this amazing partisan disaster?

H,

I’m sure that if they had only known that YOU would be watching at that particular moment…

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

r180, is all over the place.

The best one though is when he claims to be a conservative.
robert108

That’s such piss poor logic. How many dealerships are owned by Republicans? If it’s 25%, then yea, Republicans are being targeted. If it’s 70-80%, then the 73% figure is just right. If it’s even higher, then Republicans are being statisically underrepresented on these closings.

The 73% figure is of the total closings, not some sort of political quota. The real truth is whether any of those closing were making a profit, and how many of those which were closed were making a profit, and owned by Republican contributors.
Even one profitable dealership being closed is evidence of partisan bias.
I guess you don’t know what ad hominem means, Kenny.
It is an argument based solely on personal attack, with no other supporting information.
I have already explained to you how the lying greek faggot earned his name. It’s factual, and therefore, not an ad hominem.
Your cherry-pick leaves out all the supporting evidence I cite, and so is massively dishonest.
BTW, “emotional stake” is not an ad hominem. I disagreed with Rob on his failure to provide any affirmative argument for his position, then using lying smear to justify his refusal to furnish an argument. His responses to me on certain subjects are purely emotional, and I call him on that fact, along with all the rest of you who are unable to discuss rationally, factually and logically.
That includes you, Kenny.
Your entire rant was just one long ad hominem, which makes you a hypocrite.
robert108

Little H: Anything on the topic of this thread? Anything at all? Are you really that starved for attention?
robert108

Unlike you, little parrot, I type everything myself when I comment here.
Seventy-three percent is overwhelming evidence of partiality. Sorry you are unable to understand that obvious fact.
robert108

Little parrot and little H: Thanks for your continuing admission that you have nothing on topic.
robert108

He didn’t even consider looking at the party affiliation of the dealerships that remained open.

Any evidence to back up your claim of mindreading?

Seventy-three percent is way beyond chance. It proves bias, even if we didn’t know of Obama’s background as a Chicago thug politician.
Some of those dealers were making a profit.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

The more pain and suffering heaped on republicans and their supporters the better.

No sympathy here.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

I take it back about the Great Con, Billow.

He will have a segment on the Hot For Teacher thing.

Any takers?

realitybasedbob on May 26, 2009 at 01:01 pm

Uh-oh!!!!

The Greatest Conservative of all times just teased a segment for the Hot for Teacher!!!

oooooOOOOOHHHHHH
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

But as we know, campaign donations certainly don’t always indicate party affiliation.
Hannitized

Billow is a ratings whore!!

I won’t be watching, checking out a new place in Port Lock, Rbb. Beach front!
robert108

Jimmy: Projecting? Is that why you came here?
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

What are the odds that your namesake, Hannity, or the Great Conservative Billow Reilly covers it tonight?
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

r180:

Unlike you, little parrot, I type everything myself when I comment here.

I voted for him…

robert108 on November 7, 2008 at 08:41 am
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

But somehow in the process of voting for Sarah, you voted for McCain.

You lie again; I voted for Sarah, like I said I would.

robert108 on April 6, 2009 at 05:55 am

I voted for Sarah(a conservative Republican), and in the process, voted for a guy who isn’t really in my Party, IMO…

robert108 on November 6, 2008 at 07:00 pm

Unlike you, little parrot, I type everything myself when I comment here…

robert108 on May 26, 2009 at 08:56 am

…The facts don’t lie.

By robert108 on April 8, 2009 at 07:00
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

HA! Now r180 thinks he’s Colombo!

You wouldn’t know evidence if you typed it yourself.
Buzz

If you’re so concerned, join in and help. But I expect you won’t, because you’re more worried about looking for a way to dismiss this as opposed to the truth.

Lets see, 108 goon, tater and rob are the only ones posting. Now they could be this blind to not see the rational that they are obviously ignoring. Rational thought is not their strong point.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

robert108
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the blog will just be overwhelmed with their extreme left wing propaganda.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 DINO

Chrysler shut down the dealers not Obama.

But hearing that republican-owned dealers are being closed did make me day.
Buzz

Still no argument, little parrot?
In your own words, what do you make of the 73% closing of Republican owned Chrysler dealerships?

They all know that this is just a hit piece to make some stat appear bad. I would put money that 90% are white men that own the car lots. You could say that Obama is targeting white men, but that is only a stat also.

These fucks are stupid, but I don’t think that they are that stupid. Then again………
robert108

Still no argument, little parrot?
In your own words, what do you make of the 73% closing of Republican owned Chrysler dealerships?
http://Tifosi1F1.blogspot.com/ Chris Brownell

Would you expcet anything less from a Marxist? I wouldn’t. Funny you don’t see this much around on liberal sites, I wonder why!

C.
http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

That sounds criminal to me.
Buzz

Would it be a stretch to assume that 3 out of 4 business men might be repubs anyway?

If Union members were laid off is it a attack on dems?

It is no surprise that white collar business men are repubs, a mare statistic.
robert108

The average R108 post consists of the words “liar” “moron” “smear” “emotional stake” and some random insult.

Just more lying smear in the absence of any valid argument.
robert108

So, nothing on topic, little H?
You know you’re lying, and I know you’re lying.
Enough said.
Mark

I suspect a scandal brewing here that the MSM will sugarcoat.
docdave

Otherwise, Hannah alone would be hours of typing replies out of my day but since I find no pleasure in deconstructing such miserable creatures beyond their initial fair warning, I move on and leave them to their self destruction

Ditto on that. Almost everything he and rbb post is not worthy of reply.
robert108

Little H and little parrot: Your desperate circle jerk leaves out the obvious truth that lying smear can’t win a debate, something Rob has yet to learn as well.
robert108

r180, is all over the place.

The best one though is when he claims to be a conservative.

Little parrot remains fact-free and stuck on stupid with personal attack in place of any facts or logic.
I guess “all over the place” is extreme left wing code for “not stuck in ideological lockstep”.
robert108

suite: Because Rob allows this constant flow of troll droppings on the blog, my impression is that if no one refutes their constant deceptions, the blog will just be overwhelmed with their extreme left wing propaganda.
I just like pointing out that they never have any argument on any subject, and just spout the same old bullshit, over and over.
Hannitized

Yo Bat,

I work out of my home most of the day. Then I roll into the office when necessary. I have been watching Fox all morning….and not a peep.

Strange, no?
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

2 of the first 4 words!

HAAAHAHA

But what do you expect from a person who abandoned their long chest thumped principles and voted for the shit sandwich they railed against for years?
robert108

Little parrot “replies” with devious cut and paste, as usual.
http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

Seventy-three percent is way beyond chance. It proves bias, even if we didn’t know of Obama’s background as a Chicago thug politician.
Some of those dealers were making a profit.

That’s such piss poor logic. How many dealerships are owned by Republicans? If it’s 25%, then yea, Republicans are being targeted. If it’s 70-80%, then the 73% figure is just right. If it’s even higher, then Republicans are being statisically underrepresented on these closings.

And how are these dealerships performing? Are they doing about the same as everyone else? Doing better? Doing worse?

There’s too much missing evidence to claim to know that it’s a shot at republicans.

Little H and little parrot: Your desperate circle jerk leaves out the obvious truth that lying smear can’t win a debate, something Rob has yet to learn as well.

LGF (Lying Greek Faggot): The terms “many” and “a regular habit” are unprovable, moron. You couldn’t figure that out?

Rob: As usual, when you have some emotional stake in one side of an issue, you don’t make arguments, you make smears.

Does anyone here, including Dino, make more ad hominims than you? The average R108 post consists of the words “liar” “moron” “smear” “emotional stake” and some random insult.
http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

I find r108′s insults as an extra beyond his arguments whereas Hannah, Dino, etc. mostly make random provocative statements, engage in insults and catcalling, toss it together and call it a post. What they put together lacks any logical coherence which is entirely in keeping with them being trolls.

If anything, r108′s constant attempts to argue with them as if they were even involved in the intellectual give and take when they aren’t is at the very least a sentimentality of assumption that they might learn anything. However, their provocative nonsense is designed to annoy and r108 responds perfectly as expected.

So I cannot fault him here Kenny. If you insist on going down this road, you’re faced with either realizing you’re wrong and they are trolls or going the other direction and further deceiving yourself that they are actually sincere in which case they’d have to be intellectually and emotionally retarded on a level that amounts to arguing over the fine points of Stoicism with Corky from Life Goes On.

r108 merely acts as if they could be, says what he has to, demolishes what they spout, and it remains exposed ultimately as the nonsense it is. There’s no need really for anyone else to bother as r108 seems to enjoy it. Myself, I mostly block the trolls and pay little notice to them. Otherwise, Hannah alone would be hours of typing replies out of my day but since I find no pleasure in deconstructing such miserable creatures beyond their initial fair warning, I move on and leave them to their self destruction.

They are welcome to it.
http://sayanythingblog.com robport

Crshedd, as I noted in the post (twice!) this is by no means an exhaustive study. At the link, they’re busy running down more data.

They’ve even got a link to all the dealerships being closed.

If you’re so concerned, join in and help. But I expect you won’t, because you’re more worried about looking for a way to dismiss this as opposed to the truth.

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