Are Liberal Blog Trolls A Coordinated Effort?

• March 31, 2009

Much of Mr. Obama’s vaunted online strategy involved utilizing “Internet trolls” to invade enemy lines under false names and trying to derail discussion. In the real world, that’s called “vandalism.” But in a political movement that embraces “graffiti” as avant-garde art , that’s business as usual. It relishes the ability to destroy other people’s property in pursuit of electoral victory.
Hugh Hewitt’s popular site shut off its comments section because of the success of these obnoxious invaders. Breitbart.com polices nonpartisan newswire stories for such obviously coordinated attacks. Other right-leaning sites such as Instapundit and National Review Online refuse to allow comments, knowing better than to flirt with the online activist left.

I’ll admit to, at times, feeling that some of the trolls in the past that have posted here at Say Anything are coordinated efforts to sabotage discussion. But then, a simpler explanation is that politics on an anonymous and impersonal forum such as the internet is just going to be nasty thanks to some immature louts who just can’t control themselves.
I don’t doubt that at times there are commenters who are deployed as advocates by this or that organization in order to target a specific campaign or issue, but I think those instances are pretty few and far between.

Tags: Asshats, Domestic Issues, Politics

http://Array imagine

I am in favor of Rush. I recognize him as the true leader of the Republican party. I hope that all republicans follow his rhetoric to the letter. He speaks of you, for you and 20 million listeners (his words) are in lock-step with his mantra.

He is, without a doubt, the best thing that could possibly happen to the Democratic party. He is the worst thing for the republican party and he is, first and foremost, for himself. Which is what the Right is all about…

So this is a “win,win” situation. Everyone is happy.

I hope he stays on the radio for ever and continues the same level of success. 20 million are with him!!

100 million are not.
http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

eunuchized provides a laundry list of charges, but no linkage as to who here supposedly made these charges and where.

An overactive imagination or a liar, there’s no way to tell without links or resolveable references.

How.

Typical.
http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

Much of Mr. Obama’s vaunted online strategy involved utilizing “Internet trolls” to invade enemy lines under false names and trying to derail discussion. In the real world, that’s called “vandalism.” But in a political movement that embraces “graffiti” as avant-garde art , that’s business as usual. It relishes the ability to destroy other people’s property in pursuit of electoral victory.

Sounds a lot like RBB, DINO X2, BUZZ and some of the other trolls that do not add anthing to the discussion that hang out at right wing blogs like SAB when they could go to Daily Kooks and hang out with like minded people like them selves.
carrick

Buzz:

Discussion, what discussion, you all think the same. The only discussion is the butt patting and high fiving you have with each other. The thread never goes past five or six posts if we don’t chime in. It probably won’t be long before you, like the other spin machines, ban posting by anyone that can differ with your neo-con, ultra right views.

You are way overrating the value of your contribution here. There are plenty of threads where you don’t post, and the discussions get much more lengthy and technical as a result.

You and Hannitized both seem incapable of anything approaching a substantive & honest dialog on anything.
http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

C) If they had the first clue, they wouldn’t be leftards.
http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

And what should pop up, but two of our lesser trolls…]

Perhaps buzzardbreath and eunuchized will make it to the troll big leagues some day! Their mothers will be so proud!
Hannitized

The hate-filled leftie wet dream. Do you mean like the way Saddam amputated the limbs of Iraqi citizens?

Leftie-wet dream?

Is this the sort of uplifting dialogue that occurs on this site that you are so proud of Rob?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus Last Best Hope

Andy Breitbart is right. Obama himself gave the green light to this “blog brown shirt” movement during the campaign with his call to stop the (so called) cyber smears about him….smears being any discussion about his association with ACORN, William Ayers, Rev Wright, his Muslim childhood, his NO BABY LEFT ALIVE votes as a state senator etc etc.

This tactic was useful to drown out and shout down any real discussion of what might be true and damaging to THE ONE and replace those revealing subjects with blog noise ….like McCain not knowing how many houses he and his wife had, like Sarah’s daughters pregnancy, like Sarah’s husband;s 25 yr old DUI, like McCain have a bad temper….all nonsense stories that got BIG PLAY on the blogs and in MSM.

here at SAB, most of our trolls are the useful idiot kind but I think we got some who are on orders from lib HQ…look for the one’s that show up suddenly, flood the blog with non stop drivel, distract, insult, won’t debate substance, will sneer at “values” threads, will chant the same talking points regardless of the thread’s subject. The aggressively repetitive nature of these type pests could mark them as following a script of board disruption/destruction and not simply the usual idiocy of libs defending the indefensible tenets of their anti-American ideology.
Buzz

are coordinated efforts to sabotage discussion.

Discussion, what discussion, you all think the same. The only discussion is the butt patting and high fiving you have with each other. The thread never goes past five or six posts if we don’t chime in. It probably won’t be long before you, like the other spin machines, ban posting by anyone that can differ with your neo-con, ultra right views.

China here we come.
Hannitized

Hugh Hewitt’s popular site shut off its comments section because of the success of these obnoxious invaders.

Much like Hewitt’s site, many here can’t take legitimate argument and/or can not take what they dish out.

Face it gents, you are dishing it out, but can not take it. Your attacks on Obama are over-reaching, inaccurate, petty and hate-filled.

If your audience was mature, it would elevate the responses. Look at any response from a right wing SAB member. They are mostly juvenile cheap shots the often generate a similar response.

Accept some personal responsibility for a change. Conservatives.
imagine

I’m saying that if you listened, you’d understand that not all of his callers agree with him even after screening.

all of his calls are heavily screened and pre-interviewed. Call in sometime and find out. He takes the “soft-balls” from the left..(or the completely absurd…which actually makes for fun radio)
docdave

Your attacks on Obama are over-reaching, inaccurate, petty and hate-filled.

Prove it. Tell us which of our so-called attacks are over-reaching, inaccurate, petty and hate-filled. [don’t even think about saying all of them\
Pilgrim

Agreed.

To think that they could coordinate something of that scale would be to give them way too much credit. It would be like expecting a huge group of sixth graders to achieve a strategic advantage without screweing it up. It would very obvious very soon if they tried it.

Immature louts. Good description.
robert108

Your attacks on Obama are over-reaching, inaccurate, petty and hate-filled.

Telling the truth isn’t an “attack”, moron.
Bat One

Interesting cartoon! Isn’t that Diamond Head in the background?
robert108

Check out the “Ransom Note Method”, Rob; it’s quite popular with the leftie trolls here on SAB.

http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/the_top_seven_techniques_liberals_use_to_lie_about_conservatives/
Hannitized

yes they do, whether deserved or not.

fictionalized perception + ignorance of the voting masses = hopeychangey for prez.

I hate them all.

And that is the reputation you have earned. This is why you have largely gone unnoticed.
http://www.toadpond.com/ SuperToad

Funny, but both of my responses to this post are both serious and mature.

It’s really hard to see most of some of the liberalist posts that way, Han. Especially when the liberals around this blog are known to be the first ones to rush in (or near the top), shit all over everything and everyone, toss a few personal attacks and insults in an (unfortunately all-too-often successful) attempt to deflect discussion…and then move along.

In short: trolls.

There are many posts I ignore simply because I see the avatar and know from past posting history that the post will be either (1) of little contribution to the discussion; or (2) no more than a derogatory, inflammatory tirade against other [or conservatives in general]; or (3) an attempt to hijack the discussion in general.

Many times, those posts are a combination of all the above.
Mark

It probably won’t be long before you, like the other spin machines, ban posting by anyone that can differ with your neo-con, ultra right views.

That’s funny, Buzz. I have been banned by some liberal sites, because I dare to differ. And they don’t like a difference of opinion. Only kool aid drinkers allowed!
docdave

Sounds a lot like RBB, DINO X2, BUZZ and some of the other trolls that do not add anthing to the discussion that hang out at right wing blogs like SAB when they could go to Daily Kooks and hang out with like minded people like them selves.

That would tend to explain their persistance but I think that can be explained better by saying like little children they are attention whores.
TomTom

Buzz and Dino are just garden variety Queers. Trying to advance Homosexuality. I ignore them like I would roadkill on the side of the road. All liberals are LIARS. Trying to reason with an Obama sheep is pissing in the wind.
Hannitized

Funny, but both of my responses to this post are both serious and mature. Yet look at the responses from Rodney and Pilgrim.

Hypocritical children….all of them. My first comment was right on the money. And that is the primary reason why I am opposed. People are upset at those who out them.
http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

And our troll minimus, sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle!
robert108

Leftie-wet dream?

Absolutely! Since you lefties don’t have either the facts or the truth on your side, you must play the “divide and conquer” game, and try to spin Republicans and conservatives as being against each other. Your main propagandist, little ribby, makes multiple posts every day attempting to do this; it’s called the “Ransom Note Method”, and is just another method of manufacturing lying propaganda.
Since you lefties have no effective arguments, you must rely on twist and spin, dreaming that “He should fear the right for they are going to amputate him…”, as your comrade wrote earlier in this thread. You lie by cherry-picking, once again. Your leftie wet dream is that Rush will be “amputated” by his own people. Typical leftie hate and violence directed at everyone who doesn’t march in lockstep with their Marxist ideology.
Hannitized

SuperToad,

I understand your complaint. But what I believe you are missing is that is exactly how we see them.

You guys don’t notice, because the post starts off as an inaccurate attack on Liberal, mocks them in the process, the the comments come from SAB right wingers, and they pile on, adding stupid remarks.

Then liberals show up to defend themselves by returning the favor. It’s a vicious cycle.

Sometimes people crap on a serious thread….it happens. Just ignore it, if you can. But often, they are not ignored. Often, they are goaded into more insults and it deteriorates from there.

A good example is the thread “The Cowboy Way”. It started out as a thread to lift up the Cowboy, which by all American standards is a good idea. But it had to deteriorate by using the Cowboy to attack workers with soft hands and journalists.

Where do you go from there? To the bottom.
Hannitized

Beardsley continues with his childishness, never straying from his inability to recognize his hypocrisy or insignificance. Note, my comment is a response to his. Yet in his mind, I am the one responsible for the race to the bottom.

This is exactly the mental disorder right-wingers suffer from.
http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

If your audience was mature, it would elevate the responses.

I think Hannitwit just confessed to being immature!
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

Not sure why we don’t see much of LayDownSally these days, but I am guessing that she tired of the relentless stupidity of our trolls and decided her time was better spent on other pursuits.

Clearly, our resident trolls are the internet equivalents of mice, rats or festering ass-boils. Even so, they do serve a limited purpose as compelling us to do research to expose their lies and misconceptions.

This is probably the one positive contribution they have to SAB.

Since SAB covers a broad swath of subjects we have seen our resident Leftards opine on a number of topics. Research has revealed and reinforced that they are consistently wrong about almost everything they say, think and do.

From global warming, gun control, special rights for homosexuals, freedom of speech, property rights, eduction, national defense, finances, and so on and so forth — Leftards have stepped on every mine in the field.

It’s like clockwork.

Having them here illustrates how *consistently* wrong they are on every aspect of life touched upon.

Why they come here rather than just hang out with their fellow travelers at the HuffPo or Daily Kos is beyond me, except it could be their not-so-latent need for abuse.
Pilgrim

TomTom said:

Buzz and Dino are just garden variety Queers. Trying to advance Homosexuality.

I thought that a bit harsh, but then Buzz came right back with:

The only discussion is the butt patting…

Dang. Go figure.
robert108

Rush has no fear of lefties, since they never have the facts or truth on their side. He actually wants leftie callers, and lets them spew their bullshit, so that he can expose them for the stupid children they are. Examples abound on this blog.
Anthony

Breitbart is only trying to encourage right wingers to do more trolling, to be more incoherent, irrational, and assinine. Heh. Take his advice! That’s surely the road to the top! (not.)

1) Question The Motivations: When liberals are losing an argument, they love to shift the discussion not to the facts at hand, but to the motivation of the person on the other side.

If your audience was mature, it would elevate the responses. Look at any response from a right wing SAB member. They are mostly juvenile cheap shots the often generate a similar response.

7) The Straw Man: If you can’t find a sin conservatives have committed to attack, then invent one.

Sorry You must be mistaking Buzz and Dino for right wing SAB members.
Hannitized

Your attacks on Obama are over-reaching, inaccurate, petty and hate-filled.

Prove it. Tell us which of our so-called attacks are over-reaching, inaccurate, petty and hate-filled. [don’t even think about saying all of them\

1) The argument that Obama is bad, because he simply stated GM needs to learn how to make smaller cars, cheaply, that Americans want to buy in addition to making a profit while doing so.

2) The argument that it is bad that Obama lets GM go bankrupt.

3) The false claim that Obamas stimulus plan favors white males.

4) The false claim that Obama is a black separatist.

5) The claim that Obama is responsible for the economic crisis.

6) The argument that town hall visits are a stupid gimmick.

7) Criticism for using a Telepromter to deliver a well articulated speech.
The argument that it is bad to go on Jay Leno.

9) Criticism for using an electric monitor to know where reporters are located and as a tool to deliver his messages.

10) Should I go on??
robert108

Not much of a counter argument, as usual. You make ridiculous, unsupported claims, and when you get smacked with the truth, you have nothing.
Hannitized

My favorite Sparkie Arbuckle quote for Move_zig

…zig-zag the coked up, central floridian, muscle bound homosexual.
navtechie

navtechie
that’s right and the GOP has such a shitty reputation right now that our country voted in someone on faith. can’t get much worse than that can it?

live with it. like you said.

yes they do, whether deserved or not.

fictionalized perception + ignorance of the voting masses = hopeychangey for prez.

I hate them all.
Hannitized

An interesting take:

he [Move_zig] is a big military type. he spent years working out and having buttsex in the service. seriously, where do you more self-hating homos than in the military?

also, DIno–feel free to take these arguments apart. your response sucked and i cant do all the work here. your calm evening with your beau sounds quite harmless, but it doesnt serve to dispell the bullshit slander oozing from zig-zag the coked up, central floridian, muscle bound homosexual. those florida homosexuals are so weird, with all the steroids and shit – WTF? – Sparkie
robert108

Funny, but both of my responses to this post are both serious and mature.

In your opinion only. Your record speaks for itself.
navtechie

Funny, but both of my responses to this post are both serious and mature. Yet look at the responses from Rodney and Pilgrim.

Hypocritical children….all of them. My first comment was right on the money. And that is the primary reason why I am opposed. People are upset at those who out them.

Funny, one must learn to live with the reputation they have earned.

No?
TomTom

Pilgrim…DUDE!
Pilgrim

Just not used to you being rational, Hannitized, so I glossed over your comment.

Nice change from your usual hysterics, I must say. Which proves that even a blind squirrel can find an acorn sometimes.
robert108

He should have no fear of the left. They are keeping him in business.

More lying leftie bullshit. Rush’s success has continued through both Republican and leftie administrations. In fact, you lefties attacking this country demands a truthful and accurate reply, and Rush performs that service, along with others who are also successful. If you goons weren’t trying to destroy America, he would be successful in making incisive social and economic commentary.

He should fear the right for they are going to amputate him…

The hate-filled leftie wet dream. Do you mean like the way Saddam amputated the limbs of Iraqi citizens?
JK

I’m still trying to figure out why Buzz-Turd is such an Obama fan. He is the racist who has always said that the only good nigger is a dead nigger. Or did I miss the “hypocrisy” section on his resume?
Dino2

Curses! They’ve discovered my secret!

George Soros sends a 26 year old bodybuilder manwhore to my place for every 300 anti-conservative posts I place on con blogs!
END GAME

We are at the end of an era of liberty and freedom, i stay in the shadows to protect my own freedom and liberty. anything you say will be used against you. this has all happened before and will again. Fight or flight, i choose to fight. What do you choose to do?
imagine

Rush has no fear of lefties, since they never have the facts or truth on their side. He actually wants leftie callers, and lets them spew their bullshit, so that he can expose them for the stupid children they are. Examples abound on this blog.

He should have no fear of the left. They are keeping him in business. He should fear the right for they are going to amputate him…
http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

eunuchized lacks the intestinal fortitude to admit error until he’s been beaten bloody with it (and not always then).
Hannitized

Bat is upset because he is being called out on his shit.

Criticizing Obama for having the leadership to state clearly that GM must learn to make profitable smaller cars….not just trucks and SUVs.

There is nothing wrong with stating what must be done in order to be successful.

In order to be profitable, you must learn to manufacture and sell your product at a profit? Ohhhh……terrible, terrible words from a President. Nobody wants to hear leadership and simple spoken advice from a President.
http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

eunuchized fails to realize it has earned nothing but the figurative and rhetorical back of the hand slap.
imagine

You need to have “blog screening” like Rush has call screening. That way only people that agree can comment.
docdave

can’t get much worse than that can it?

Only if you love marxism and hate capitalism.
imagine

If you goons weren’t trying to destroy America, he would be successful in making incisive social and economic commentary.

This is the best thing I have read in a long time.

incredible!!
Pilgrim

And THEN Sparkie said:

i would like to see one commentator on here can define avant-garde art for me.

How about the defining the color fuscia, or how to wear that sweater around your neck just so.

Yeesh.
sayanything-5371

Your attacks on Obama are over-reaching, inaccurate, petty and hate-filled.

In other words, right on the mark.
imagine

Are you saying that Rush does not screen calls?
are you interested at all in reality?
tahDeetz

Goolge. . .

Hegelian Method

Delphi Technique

IOW . . . New Party Astroturfing

Debate is not the intent. Group-think is.

Btw, remember Barry’s break-out groups on health-care and the economy?
Hannitized

C) If they had the first clue, they wouldn’t be leftards.

How ironic it is for a Trollish comment to be posted by a Republican, in a thread about Democrat Trolls.
http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

I don’t include Sparkie because while he more often than not is annoying, rude, stupid, and inflammatory all at the same time… he does say it in such a way that fairly screams that A)he doesn’t know how to have pretense and do it for cynical amusement, B)he knows half of what he says is nonsense said for other reasons unknown consciously at the time, and C)isn’t a jerk like Dino, Buzz, or Hannah.

I know some will disagree on that take but Sparkie gets more or less a pass. He’s wants to slam dance and dances back.

Dino when challenged ignores the challenges and claims victory much like Baghdad Bob.

Buzz is a racist union shill. Nuff said.

Hannah tries to come up with faux responses to challenges which amount to more clever evasion than Dino ever manages. Like being asked to prove a theorem and having a raft of accounting paperwork handed to you instead. Semi-non-sequitur.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

Tony
Who are you addressing? You start off with one of my quotes about the original intent of the cited article which Rob redacted out in the reposted version.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

Nota bene: Breitbart is only trying to encourage right wingers to do more trolling, to be more incoherent, irrational, and assinine. Heh. Take his advice! That’s surely the road to the top! (not.)

Gotta lovit. Accusation, no evidence, and a call for a counterattack. Hmmmmmm. Where have I seen that before? Is that like the one shtick you guys always fall for or what? AHA HA HA HAAHAHA HAA HA HAA
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

buzz has a point. many discussions would be superficial without intentionally virulent interventions by those who don’t agree.

in a political movement that embraces “graffiti” as avant-garde art , that’s business as usual

i would like to see one commentator on here can define avant-garde art for me. i am curious to see if you fellas even know the extension or intension of the terms you are using in your seemingly high-falootin’ critique/conspiracy theory.

i am interested to see that i haven’t been named yet. i have been called a troll in the past, but i can assure you that i comment here on behalf of no larger entity than little ole me.

one would really expect nothing less than this from the ‘conspiracy nut’ party. does brietbart go ahead and provide any examples of this phenomenon? it strikes me that he is making empirical claims, but making no attempt to cash them out in reality… another common irrationalism among the conspiracy theory party. or maybe offer some wildly speculative, counter-factual evidence at least?

This is the template Rob uses for his posts: IF my claims we true THEN my claims would be true. Right? Its brilliant and, who knows, my claims could be true.

And he whines that people are trying to disrupt this sort of speculation? Give us all a fucking break, whiney little victims. Step up and argue. If your points are on, trolls will only make themselves look bad and you look good. Nothing to worry about, nothing to whine about.

Whiny little girlie men.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

navtechie
that’s right and the GOP has such a shitty reputation right now that our country voted in someone on faith. can’t get much worse than that can it?

live with it. like you said.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

How about the defining the color fuscia, or how to wear that sweater around your neck just so.

you guys are the ones using the high-falootin’, gay terms, sweetheart. stop trolling for crissakes.

roddy randy roughgarden
minimus? thanks for the contra-indicator!
http://sayanythingblog.com robport

You need to have “blog screening” like Rush has call screening. That way only people that agree can comment.

A) That wouldn’t be any fun.

B) Clearly, you don’t listen to Rush.
http://sayanythingblog.com robport

Are you saying that Rush does not screen calls?
are you interested at all in reality?

I’m saying that if you listened, you’d understand that not all of his callers agree with him even after screening.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

docdave
i don’t love or hate any ideologies… they are non-existant things. i prefer to love and/or hate things which actually exist… like people, pets, or even actions.
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

no, they are not interested in reality. they think rush actually exposes himself to potentially damaging libs and miraculously outsmarts them. heh.

fairy tale land.
http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

Of course. Only Soros could afford the ransom amount anyone expects before they’d get within biohazard distance of you Dino.

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