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Monday, March 10, 2008

Anti-War Judge Denies Foster Kid Opportunity To Enlist With Marines

Apparently because this kid is a ward of the state he is required to get the permission of a judge before enlisting.

SIMI VALLEY - Shawn Sage long dreamed of joining the military, and watching “Full Metal Jacket” last year really sold him on becoming a Marine.

But last fall, a Los Angeles Superior Court commissioner dashed the foster teen’s hopes of early enlistment for Marine sniper duty, plus a potential $10,000 signing bonus.

In denying the Royal High School student delayed entry into the Marine Corps, Children’s Court Commissioner Marilyn Mackel reportedly told Sage and a recruiter that she didn’t approve of the Iraq war, didn’t trust recruiters and didn’t support the military.

“The judge said she didn’t support the Iraq war for any reason why we’re over there,” said Marine recruiter Sgt. Guillermo Medrano of the Simi Valley USMC recruiting office.

“She just said all recruiters were the same - that they `all tap dance and tell me what I want to hear.’ She said she didn’t want him to fight in it.”

Sage, 17, said he begged for Mackel’s permission.

“Foster children shouldn’t be denied (an) ability to enlist in the service just because they’re foster kids,” he said. “Foster kids shouldn’t have to go to court to gain approval to serve one’s country.”

Mackel, a juvenile dependency commissioner at the Children’s Court in Monterey Park, declined through a clerk to speak about any court case or comments she may have made in court.

Transcripts of juvenile court hearings require a special release from a judge.

We’ve reached a pretty dark day in this country when agents of our government are actively telling our youth that military service is a bad thing.

I assume that Shawn Sage will be able to enlist without anyone’s permission once he’s 18 (I don’t know how this family law stuff works, but you’d think he’d be free once he’s an adult), and when he does I’m sure he’ll be an asset to the Marine Corps and the country.

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She is no longer an instrument of Justice, she is a partisan judicial propaganda minister and should be impeached.


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on March 10, 2008 at 05:55 pm

watching “Full Metal Jacket” last year really sold him on becoming a Marine.

Request denied, remanded to Psych services.
Next case.

He can sign up soon enough.

WOOF on March 10, 2008 at 06:02 pm

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WOOF on March 10, 2008 at 06:06 pm

Whereas watching La Cage aux Folles was enough for WOOF! smile



Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Proof on March 10, 2008 at 06:14 pm

I expect better of you Proof.

La Cage a Fillies

Full Metal Wackit

WOOF on March 10, 2008 at 06:29 pm

He can wait until he is 18, or the judge can be recalled.  A more conservative, patriotic judge can be put in her place.  This is pitiful.


Communism is evil

Chief RZ on March 10, 2008 at 06:37 pm

La Cage a Fillies Full Metal Wackit

I’ll have to take your word for it, WOOF! I don’t rent movies from behind the curtain!



Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Proof on March 10, 2008 at 06:44 pm

“The judge said she didn’t support the Iraq war for any reason why we’re over there,” said Marine recruiter Sgt. Guillermo Medrano of the Simi Valley USMC recruiting office.

“She just said all recruiters were the same - that they `all tap dance and tell me what I want to hear.’ She said she didn’t want him to fight in it.”

Well, your honor, you’re gonig to recuse yourself or we have ourselves an automatic appeal.

And we’re going to file a complaint either way as you’re overstepping your bounds.

Kenny on March 10, 2008 at 06:47 pm

“The judge said she didn’t support the Iraq war for any reason why we’re over there,” said Marine recruiter Sgt. Guillermo Medrano of the Simi Valley USMC recruiting office.

If this is true, then what Marilyn Mackel is saying is she that supported the rule of Saddam Hussein.

The judge is undoubtedly a leftie.

“Liberals” are for change the status quo on murderous dictators.

likwidshoe on March 10, 2008 at 06:59 pm

Would you sign someone else’s child
into the military?

Sounds like the Judge and the bailiff have experience in the matter. Anyone else?

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WOOF on March 10, 2008 at 07:01 pm

Would you sign someone else’s child
into the military?

Any serious and upstanding 17 looking to join the Marine Corps? Most definitely.

Sounds like the Judge and the bailiff have experience in the matter. Anyone else?

I looked all around for your argument, WOOF. I didn’t find it. Anyone else?

likwidshoe on March 10, 2008 at 07:06 pm

Judges are subject to the Code of Judicial Conduct, which is more or less uniform from state to state:

Canon 2. A Judge Should Avoid Impropriety and the Appearance of Impropriety in All Activities

A. A judge should respect and comply with the law and should act at all times in a manner that promotes public confidence in the integrity and impartiality of the judiciary.

B. A judge should not allow family, social, political, or other relationships to influence judicial conduct or judgment.

.....
Canon 3. A Judge Should Perform the Duties of Judicial Office Impartially and Diligently

C. Disqualification. (see R. 1:12-1)

(1) A judge should disqualify himself or herself in a proceeding in which the judge’s impartiality might reasonably be questioned, including but not limited to instances where:

(a) the judge has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party or a party’s lawyer or has personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning the proceeding;


...for great justice

Move_Zig on March 10, 2008 at 07:09 pm
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Would you sign someone else’s child
into the military?

Adults sign up for the military, not children.  And they sign themselves up.

Nice try, poodle, but nobody can sign anyone else up for the military.  If this kid wants to serve that should be his decision.  Shame on this judge for insulting military service like this.


The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

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Rob on March 10, 2008 at 07:19 pm

Do not .
I repeat
Do Not
believe a military recruiter.

They all signed up for
computer school on Hawaii.

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WOOF on March 10, 2008 at 07:20 pm

17 year olds are not adults Rob.

Used to be Judges forced miscreants into the military.
That was patriotism?

WOOF on March 10, 2008 at 07:23 pm
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If a 17-year old can attend public school for 11 years, being subjected to socialist mantras and leftard “teachers,” and *still* harbor a desire to join the military, that is the hallmark of a man thinking for himself. 

What isn’t independent thought is what passes for witty, POS, anti-freedom comments from WOOFtard.

skh.pcola on March 10, 2008 at 07:28 pm

You have to read the links Lik.

“She just said all recruiters were the same - that they `all tap dance and tell me what I want to hear.’

the court bailiff raised his hand and addressed the young Sage.

“My son’s in the Army,” he said. “He did the Delayed Entry Program. They don’t care about you. They’re just there for the numbers.

WOOF on March 10, 2008 at 07:29 pm

The Corps has been a way up and out of many a bad situation.  I recall from my early days one Platoon sergeant for which the Corps was his home and family.  He’d been raised on the wrong side of the tracks and had to attach his chevrons with velcro.

For all his troubles, many of them self-made, he loved the Corps in a manner many of us with two parents and a home in the Burbs never could.

This judge, because of her anti-American Leftist bias, denies him this avenue, and by so doing, sets the stage for many such denials.  For some kids, it’s a race against time, since the Street will own you by virtue of drugs, criminality or prostitution.  Once you have a criminal record, it’s far more difficult to get in, and even if you get in, some of the more sought-after military specialties, along with their invaluable training and experience, will be closed to you because of your inability to pass a higher-level security clearance.

And calling such a recruit a child is disingenuous—since the first sharpened stick was used in an organized fashion against other tribes with sharpened sticks, the young have borne the brunt of the fighting.

You never feel quite so old as when you look into the faces of the young men who serve.  But that is how it has almost always has been.

The judge is just being a Berkeleyite Commie.  She needs to be taken from the bench and given a job more fitting her station in life—a crack-ho hippy shouting at Marine recruiting stations in California.


...for great justice

Move_Zig on March 10, 2008 at 08:13 pm

WOOF - You have to read the links Lik.

I did read the link. I read about a judge who violated the Code of Judicial Conduct. Marilyn Mackel was stupid enough to vocalize her personal bias in this matter and it calls into serious question her ethical honesty of sitting on the bench.

So, what’s your point? Are you just here to malign all military recruiters as liars? You know WOOF, prior service or not, you’re still an anti-military POS.

likwidshoe on March 11, 2008 at 10:07 am

WOOF.  One must also look out for himself in the service, in hospitals and in life.
I remember being in “PATS” for a week doing KP duty 14 hours a day.  A few Airmen decided to change their AFSC right then because they did not have the patience to wait another week.  That was their choice.  I waited and was glad I did.


Communism is evil

Chief RZ on March 11, 2008 at 12:27 pm
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