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Thursday, March 13, 2008

Anti-War Activist: I Don’t Support The Troops

Just like with Vietnam, when war opposition was usurped by quasi-socialist groups to further an anti-American agenda, so too has the anti-Iraq war movement been usurped by haters like Kenneth Thiesen from World Can’t Wait (a front-group for the Revolutionary Communist Party).

In the recent political battle around the Marine recruiting station in Berkeley there has been much confusion around the concept or slogan of “supporting the troops,” but opposing the unjust wars of the Bush regime. Many who oppose the Bush regime wars also say they “support the troops.” Let me say it straight out—I do not support the troops and neither should you. It is objectively impossible to support the troops of the imperialist military forces of the U.S. and at the same time oppose the wars in which they fight.

The United States has over 700 military bases or sites located in over 130 foreign countries. The hundreds of thousands of troops stationed in these countries are not there to preserve or foster freedom and democracy as the Bush regime would like to claim, but to maintain U.S. imperialist domination of the world. The United States now spends more on its military than all the other nations of the world combined. ….

We need to expose that those in the U.S. military are trained to be part of a “killing machine.” While not every member of the military is an individual murderer, they are all part of a system that commits war crimes, including aggressive wars, massacres, rape, and other crimes against humanity, all in the service of U.S. imperialism. The bottom line is that even if these people are relatives or friends, you can not support the troops without also supporting the objective role that these troops play in the imperialist system. . . .

But to decide whether U.S. troops deserve support you must analyze what they actually do in countries occupied by the U.S. The wars these troops are engaged in have the goal of maintaining and extending U.S. hegemony throughout the world. They are unjust, illegal, and immoral wars. Can you support the troops in these wars? Why is this any different from a German in World War II saying, “I oppose the wars launched by Hitler, but I support the troops of the German army which are making these wars possible.” When the Marines in Haditha massacred Iraqis, including women and children, would it have been correct to say I supported the Marines who killed those people, but not the massacre? This would be ridiculous, but no more so than supporting the troops engaged in the war that made the Haditha massacre possible in the first place.

Remember, this isn’t mere opposition to the war in Iraq.  This is opposition to our military in general.  From communists.

There’s no excuse for this sort of nonsense.

Comments

Well, they finally said it, “they don’t support our troops”.
Kenneth Thiesen.  The next Noam Chomsky?


Communism is evil

Chief RZ on March 13, 2008 at 09:32 am
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Well as one of those hundred of thousands of troops stationed in one of those 130 countries… to Kenneth Thiesen “FUCK YOU”

Lewis on March 13, 2008 at 09:41 am

Kenneth Thiesen is a typical liberal. He’s just a little bit more honest about what he believes when it comes to the military.

likwidshoe on March 13, 2008 at 09:52 am
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I didn’t see any mention of communism there, or that he claims to speak for “all liberals” or even “all opponents of the Iraq war/occupation/whatever we’re calling it today.”

I disagree with his conclusion that soldiers are to be individually blamed for the missions their commanders send them on. Of course, they’re not inanimate objects; they have some measure of personal judgment (such as to refrain from war crimes, torture, etc.). But they also have an obligation to obey orders.

If we citizens disagree with those orders, we should take that complaint to the Commander in Chief, not the soldiers themselves.

And, of course, stating that America should not rule, police, or run the world by force of arms is hardly “anti-American.” It’s anti-hegemony, which is an entirely valid position.

Calybos on March 14, 2008 at 06:35 am
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