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Monday, August 27, 2007

America’s Poor Not Really All That Poor

Tomorrow the Census Bureau is set to release it’s latest report on those “officially” living in poverty in America and the report is expected to put that number at around 37 million.  As always, there is no small amount of controversy as to what does and does not constitute poverty.  One argument I’ve always made is that the Census Bureau basis it’s analysis on income, but doesn’t calculate in the varying cost of living rates from around the country.  For instance, someone living in Los Angeles, or even Minneapolis, and making $35,000 could probably be considered low-income.  But in North Dakota?  That’s easily mid-to-upper middle class.

Another problem with the census numbers is that often people with incomes that classify them as poor for the purposes of the study aren’t really living lifestyles that most of us would consider as poor.  As Robert Rector points out at National Review:

The following are facts about persons defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau, taken from a variety of government reports:

  • 46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.
  • 80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
  • Only six percent of poor households are overcrowded; two thirds have more than two rooms per person.
  • The typical poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)
  • Nearly three quarters of poor households own a car; 31 percent own two or more cars.
  • 97 percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.
  • 78 percent have a VCR or DVD player.
  • 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.
  • 89 percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and a more than a third have an automatic dishwasher.

Now, obviously, just because you own a microwave or have a DVD player doesn’t in and of itself mean you’re poor.  But the Census Bureau has lumped some 37 million people into that “poor” category, and from the numbers above we know that a good chunk of them not only have microwaves and DVD players but also satellite or cable television, two televisions to go along with it, two cars, air conditioning and their own three-bedroom home with 1.5 bathrooms, a garage and a porch or patio.

Plus I’d be willing to wager that most of these households also have multiple cell phones, extensive DVD collections as well as computers and internet access.

The people who have those things aren’t poor.  Or, if they are poor, they’re that way because they are living well beyond their means.  In which case, whose fault is that?  And is it really the responsibility of the government to help them?

The populists and the class warriors among us are quick to paint America’s “poor” as though they were the North American equivalents of starving Africans, yet compared to the poor in the rest of the world America’s “poor” are relatively fat and happy.

Besides, I take a pretty dim view of efforts to combat poverty in general.  I don’t like seeing people struggling in life any more than the next guy, but the key to keeping poverty to a bare minimum (because we’ll never get rid of it) is to provide equality of opportunity to every citizen.  Not government entitlements.  Yet that’s not what most liberals want.  Most liberals want equality of out come.  Or, more simply, they want wealth redistribution from the rich to the poor so that we can all live in a utopia where everyone is relatively affluent.

Which sounds nice until you realize that a) to accomplish such a thing you have to entrust a terrible amount of power to a central authority so that it can do the redistribution and b) making a significant portion of the population dependent on the government for their needs isn’t a good way to create a thriving society.

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The only real way to “fight” poverty is to enable economic growth.  Quit trying to take away the incentive to become more wealthy by penalizing achievement and by bailing out those who don’t make the effort to achieve by giving them a soft landing in a “safety net”.  We need less govt to fight poverty, not more govt.  Oh, and get the govt out of the schools, so we can educate our kids to be achievers.


"Give the lefties a pile of money, and they’ll spend it buying votes.” - Rush Limbaugh on the “bailout”.

robert108 on August 27, 2007 at 02:09 pm

Cut the poverty level by 25% by deporting illegal aliens.

The biggest problem with the figures is that they don’t take into account the billions in aid that these so-called poor get.

So if they have no income, but $30,000 a year in welfare they are still counted as poor when they aren’t living that way.

The other thing is that programs to help the poor tend to keep the poor poor.  There’s no need to strive to improve so they stay where they are at. 

Of course most people work their way up but these victims of government never get that first job.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 27, 2007 at 02:28 pm
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The other thing is that programs to help the poor tend to keep the poor poor.  There’s no need to strive to improve so they stay where they are at.

This is the biggest problem, I think.  I don’t have a problem with helping people, but we should help people who actually want to help themselves.  And that help should be in the form of empowering the individual to help themselves with things like education and training, not handouts.


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Rob on August 27, 2007 at 03:38 pm

“I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer. … In short, you offered a premium for the encouragement of idleness, and you should not now wonder that it has had its effect in the increase of poverty.” --Benjamin Franklin


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Daniel on August 27, 2007 at 06:28 pm

Because we have a free enterprise demand economic system, plus the four freedoms, personal, economic, religious and political, we are an upwardly mobile country.  It should come as no surprise that our “poor” are only poor compared to the rest of us.  By other standards, we are amazingly wealthy; all of us.


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robert108 on August 27, 2007 at 06:34 pm
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Wow, according to this thing, I’m poor as heck. I should send Hillary and Obama an email and tell them I want some welfare.
The reality is that I like most, live above my wages. If I chose a lower rent apartment, chose to live without internet and cell service, chose to change my diet, and made a few other adjustments, I would be saving money instead of trying to get out of debt.
The differene between me and other is that I am big enough to admit this.

Doug on August 27, 2007 at 11:04 pm

Another pet peeve of mine. Since when has the census of the United States become a fact finding expedition? The census is only to be a counting of the whole number of persons residing in the United States.

I received the census inquisition in the mail, did not initially respond because I felt that it was not the government’s business how many bathrooms I had or if I did or did not have flush toilets, or hot water. Not to mention how many vehicles, the value of my home etc. After a small amount of time had passed I recieved notice that I had a legal duty to return the census form and could be facing legal action if I did not complete and return it. After consultation with my legal adviser I returned the form with the names and ages of all persons residing within the house hold and the word “refused” after all of the rest of the questions.

A census is the counting of the whole number of persons residing in The United States of America. There was not one census taker that went through our community and counted 1,2,3,4,5.......

This was less of a census than it was a fact finding expedition and inquisition.

Who counted the illegals????

edie on August 28, 2007 at 04:42 am
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edie: I agree with you that the “census” should count noses (legal noses) and nothing else. MYOB, Uncle Sam!

However, a point I’ve long made about “poverty”:
If you look at the list of amenities and luxuries on that list and add to that the breakthroughs in medical science, medieval kings could not aspire to live as well as those we consider legally “impoverished” today!

If only there were some mechanism to teach the uneducated about history, language and reasoning!



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Proof on August 28, 2007 at 05:52 am
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I’m reminded of how Dinesh D’Souza says one of the reasons he came to America was to see a place where the poor people are fat.  That said, it’s well noted that all of those things are a big reason our poor stay poor.  Between maintenance of their stuff, payments on it, and the basic time spent enjoying it, a lot of the poor never get to work well.

Robert Perry on August 28, 2007 at 09:59 am
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