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Keyes?? I did not see that one coming!! Is he just trying to get some 15 min. of fame deal?

Alan Keyes is a very odd duck. I was “loaned out” to his failed Maryland Senate campaign from my job as a staffer for the senior elected Republican in the state. I, along with several others who were sent to work on his campaign, really thought he might have a chance and we worked hard for him. He lost. He won in all the predominately white counties and lost big time in Baltimore City and Prince Georges county, which were two of the largest counties and both predominately black voters.

His reaction on election night and in the weeks after made all of us angry and also glad that he ended up losing. No appreciation for any of the hard work done on his behalf. No acknowledgment of his own short-comings and his own failure to deliver the AA vote. He really isn’t a very nice person.

He is very bright. He is solidly conservative. Well educated with a Ph.D from Harvard and well-trained as the Assistant Secy of State as a protégé of UN Ambassador Jeanne Kirkpatrick and a Reagan appointed Ambassador. But, it all boils down to a lousy personality and terrible social skills leaving those who have had to work with him with a bad taste afterwards, and a chip on his shoulder the size of a 4x4 beam.

In other words, a perfect person to file this law suit and maybe get something done on the issue.

Plus, the Berg suit in PA was dismissed on the technicality that Berg (and by extension voters) don’t have standing in court on this issue. Keyes is testing to see if another candidate will have standing, since the courts have said that the voters do not.

This will never stick though it will go down to defeat. I would rather we spend our time rejecting NOBAMA and opposing him and this attempt to run this contry into the ground.

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What makes Keye’s suit interesting is he is suing the STATE of CA. 

That the electors cannot vote for Obama.

Domino affect.

Old Tigers are more dangerous when they believe this is their last hunt.

From , “The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen”
Old tigers, sensing the end,
they’re at their most fierce. 
And they go down fighting.

Such a lawsuit, if successful, would cause riots.

Obama won, it’s time to move on. We may not like it, but he won.

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.

What grounds is he suing around?  Is he saying that Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii?

[W]hat you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Kenny I think you are right. I just don’t see the courts letting this go to a trial. How would you rule on this? Also, it doesn’t help that NOBAMA hasn’t been forth coming with his birth certificate either. Anyone can post a document to the internet and say its real but why doesn’t he produce one and get one with it?

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Kenny I think you are right. I just don’t see the courts letting this go to a trial. How would you rule on this? Also, it doesn’t help that NOBAMA hasn’t been forth coming with his birth certificate either. Anyone can post a document to the internet and say its real but why doesn’t he produce one and get one with it?

He has produced it.  It has been inspected.  The state of Hawaii has officially said he was born there.  This case will be dismissed because there is no cause of action that has a reasonable chance of success.

The state of Hawaii has officially said he was born there.

I don’t get it.  What’s to contest?

[W]hat you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Here’s what amazes me.  Since being a naturalized citizen is “required” in order to be POTUS, why has no governmental election agency required to see his birth certificate?

The FBI?  The CIA?  The FEC?  The friggin SEC?  No one is even the least bit curious?  Why is it such a big damned mystery that the government of Hawaii even ‘sealed” his birth records and said “take our word for it, he is a citizen”?

Just SHOW US the damned thing already!  I mean, I have to do that to get a passport.  Why is it Obama has never been required to do this and why hasn’t he volunteered?

The f*cking MSM, once again, is silent.  F*ck them.

No one has produced an archive long form of the birth certificate. And, all we have is the “word” of a dem. bureaucrat that one exists in the file in Hawaai. After what we saw in Ohio with in the tank Obama officials, why would/should anyone take only the word of some bureaucrat, especially when both a Kenyan birth certificate is supposed to be available and there are those in Kenya willing to testify they have first hand knowledge of his birth there? The short form certificates posted on line are worthless and easily forged. The various lawsuits, I think up to nine now, are asking for the archive long form copy, as is, as I understand it, Justice Suter, be produced by Dec. 1st.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931
‘Constitutional crisis’ looming over Obama’s birth location

The bottom line ladies and gentleman…
IF HE HAS NOTHING TO HIDE, WHY HIDE IT??

Hawk said: He has produced it.  It has been inspected.  The state of Hawaii has officially said he was born there.  This case will be dismissed because there is no cause of action that has a reasonable chance of success.

If he has produced it, why then is he being sue. That is because he released it on the internet but anyone can doctor a document to make it look legal.

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Such a lawsuit, if successful, would cause riots.

Obama won, it’s time to move on. We may not like it, but he won.

Kenny, if he became POTUS knowing he was unqualified, even if riots ensuie, what diference does that make? You mean no matter what crimes we commit tio achieve our goals, once we achieve those goals all is forgiven, he won? The ends justify te means?

I think Keyes, who I believe has serious ego issues, sued based on the fact that California has a legal obligation to the voters to directly and clearly certify the basic qualifications of any candidate or they dare not allow them to take office until such certification is completed.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Just SHOW US the damned thing already!  I mean, I have to do that to get a passport.  Why is it Obama has never been required to do this and why hasn’t he volunteered?
The f*cking MSM, once again, is silent.  F*ck them.

Bill Mitchell on November 17, 2008 at 03:17 pm

He traveled abroad. He had to have a passport. So he produced a birth a birth certificate. If he gives in once then every tom dick and harry will be demanding to see something. What’s next? Paternity tests for his daughters? the length of his dick? Is his sphincter muscle functioning properly?

. If he gives in once then every tom dick and harry will be demanding to see something. What’s next? Paternity tests for his daughters? the length of his dick? Is his sphincter muscle functioning properly?

I don’t think it’s too much to ask that the candidate actually PROVE he’s legit.
And asking that he actually presents the proof is in no way compared to the list you offered.
None of the items you mentioned are requirements for the office.

Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?

The document that was released to the internet (via KOS) was proven to be a forgery.

That doesn’t mean anything of course.  If the State of Hawaii can produce a genuine birth certificate (and they say they can) this will be a very short lived suit.

Either way, it will settle this whisper campaign once and for all.

if riots ensuie, what diference does that make?

emmm… then there would be riots?

that’s different right?

Yun Chu said, “You must strictly not express in words what is very significant. Both dragon and snake are killed in one blow.”

I believe the State of Hawaii produced a certificate of live birth, didn’t they?

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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I’m embarassed to even have read this.  The guy was born in Hawaii.  We don’t need conspiracy theorists trying to bring him down after the election is over.

Maybe you guys should check out the following video.
It is BO’s Kenyan grandmother stating she was present in the delivery room of the Mombasa Hospital (in Kenya) when and where BO was born.

http://www.oilforimmigration.org/facts/?p=248

Perhaps BO won’t produce an authentic birth certificate because it would show he was born in Kenya. 

All he has to do to put the issue to rest is produce the real thing.

RebTex.

Bill Mitchell said:  “I mean, I have to do that to get a passport.”

He, Bill Mitchell, meansbirth certificate.

I said: “He traveled abroad. He had to have a passport. So he produced a birth a birth certificate.”

By which I mean: If one needs a birth certificate for a passport (and one does), for Obama to travel abroad he had to produce a damned birth certificate to get a passport.

I believe the State of Hawaii produced a certificate of live birth, didn’t
they?

No they did not produce a certificate. They produced a bureaucrat to say one exists in the file. That means nothing.

And the short form certificate is also unacceptable. We need to see the long form which has physician’s signature, full info on the parents, etc. There is no conceivable legitimate reason why Barack Obama continues to refuse to provide this basic document.

When he was in Hawaii, he could easily have gone to the County Recorder’s office and obtained a certified copy of the long form on the spot and had a great photo op/screw you moment with the press looking on. But no, he hires CAIR lawyers to fight the production of this long form certificate and chooses to fight nine different law suits instead and giving the Constitution a big eff you in the process.

The question now is will he or will he not defy the SC order to produce by Dec. 1st? What the hell is he trying to hide if there is nothing to hide?

I didn’t care in the beginning, but now because of his refusal to produce a legitimate certificate, I question whether there is one and it makes the claim of the Kenyan certificate much more believable.

He escaped on the technicality of standing in PA, I don’t know where the other cases stand right now, and Keyes is testing the “standing” issue by filing not as a voter, but as a candidate. These are Federal cases and if he defies the SC, we have a serious Constitutional crisis on our hands.

Question: Do you have to show a birth certificate each time you renew your passport? I didn’t, since they already had it on file. He got his original passport as a child and probably has had to renew it every ten years. So who knows what certificate was used originally, but I don’t think the passport argument holds up, given the circumstances.

Kenny, if he became POTUS knowing he was unqualified, even if riots ensuie, what diference does that make? You mean no matter what crimes we commit tio achieve our goals, once we achieve those goals all is forgiven, he won? The ends justify te means?

Yes, the dude who has said that rioters should be shot, fatally, on sight surely advocates riots to win your agenda. Eye roll. I mean I know you don’t know me, but from the things I’ve said in the past I think you could reasonably infer that was not my intent.

There would be riots if the President elect was removed because Alan Keyes wasn’t satisfied with the state of Hawaii saying “he is a citizen”. Keyes and others are trying to get Obama tossed on a technicality..ANY technicality.

And as much as I don’t want the man to be President, that’s not the way to do it.

For the first time in my adult life, I am ashamed of my country.

The guy was born in Hawaii.
pcND on November 17, 2008 at 07:40 pm

Please include the link to the original long form birth certificate showing his place of birth that convinced you that this is the case. I would like to see something that demonstrates that your statement is more than mere assertion.

little late to be worried about this.

Whatever it takes I say go for it.  The TRUTH needs to come out. The biggest sham and fraud in this country is the possibility of this illegal election. However, I don’t think the truth will ever come out for fear of a mass uprising.

Rob:

I believe the State of Hawaii produced a certificate of live birth, didn’t they?

No.  They can’t release it, though Obama can.

DailyKOS released what was purported to be a legitimate birth certificate, but that was later proven (see Wizbang) to be a forgery.

I think this is much ado about nothing, but if this has the effect of ending this whisper campaign, I’m all for it.

Harry, I like your point.  The Truth is the first thing to die in a socialist/communist state.

Communism is evil

Have to get on my soap box again.  Along with TRUTH is INTEGRITY and ETHICAL behavior. None of these traits have been demonstrated by BO.  Good character is developed by honest and truthful actions, if, if, you want the trust and respect of people.  What is being dragged to the White House is a huge dung pile of corrupt and dishonest actions and covered with frosting to make it look pretty.  Remove the frosting and the smelly dung pile is still there.  Perhaps the White House should be renamed the Scheiss House.  Did I go off in a tangent?  Maybe, but I feel better.

Sadly, this and his Selective Service Fraud will get swept under the rug and Barry Soetoro will ruin this country with his Socialist/Marxist (with Islamic Principle) Ideas. It will be interesting when he tries to instill the Sharia Law. It is already accepted in parts of Canada and parts of Europe. Google it if you want to know about it. I’m sure the GVT will let him be president rather than let 50% (or maybe less) of his voters riot in the street if he is removed. Remember, this was a Coup De’taut not an election. CNN reported the day after the “Election” that they had been prepping him for Months. Guess they knew something that we didn’t. Steps have already been taken to make sure that Philip J. Berg’s Case doesn’t stand up in the Supreme Court, and the Obama Camp will be doing the same with Alan Keyes case. He will win Georgia with his goons fixing the vote there as well. For every 1 Legal vote, he will match with 2 or more Illegal votes. This is how he ran Raila Odinga’s election in Dec 2007. (Rigged Elections and Media Bias). The people of Kenya (Barry’s Hometown) found out afterwards and there was 3 months of Bloodshed before a new President was installed. Odinga stayed on as his advisor to quell the bloodshed. Look this stuff up. I think he was practicing for the US election here in the US. Not everyone drank Odinga’s Kool-aid, but more than half drank Obama’s. I hope America is not lost, but it is his Fixed GVT and Money against the people. Either we will be miserable like the people under Moussolini, or we will have a 2nd Civil War. Where are the FBI, CIA, NSA, Police and all other GVT agencies on this? They probably think that America Needs a Wake Up call. Well, this will be it. His Civilian National Defense Force will keep the people at bay and Re-Educated. The Fairness Doctrine will make sure that the TV and Radio Media only tells us what they want us to hear. USSA. United Socialist States of America. Maybe Texas will succeed and we can all live there. Maybe Australia and England will take us as Refugees. I pray to God every day while I am still allowed to.

I think this is much ado about nothing, but if this has the effect of ending this whisper campaign, I’m all for it.

I agree.  And while I don’t think Hawaii released a certificate of live birth, didn’t they confirm one or something?  I was sure i’d read that somewhere.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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The question of Barack’s birth status should have been put to rest before the election. Blame the decided lack of curiosity of the MSM for that!
Like instant replay, there would have to be “incontrovertible evidence” for the call of the electorate to be overturned. I doubt that standard will be met.

Excuse me, you were saying?

Rob:

I agree.  And while I don’t think Hawaii released a certificate of live birth, didn’t they confirm one or something?  I was sure i’d read that somewhere.

HONOLULU – State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.

Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently.

She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest. Some Obama critics claim he was not born in the US.

Earlier Friday, a southwest Ohio magistrate rejected a challenge to Obama’s citizenship. Judges in Seattle and Philadelphia recently dismissed similar suits.

I figured.

Probably could have looked it up myself.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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The Supreme Court will never hear any case involving his citizenship.
If he is found not to be a natural born and denied the presidency than massive riots will occur in our cities.The court will always find a legal excuse not to hear any such case.
The real problem is the Supreme Court.
I propose the following scenario.
Someone from vital statistics leaks information
that Obama has no birth certificate on record and is either charged with a felony or fired.Cae then goes to the Supreme Court.The court then denies the case because the firing was based on policy and
not on the actual document.
The sad part would be that the case would deny someone from defending the constitution

David. Please wake up. He is a citizen. Man you must live a gloomy life.

Dang!
I musta missed the displaying of the original birth certificate.
Could you please give a link to the original?

Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?

Dang!
I must missed the displaying of the original birth certificate.
Could you please give a link to the original?

RebTex on December 13, 2008 at 01:52 pm

You snooze you lose.
Like all the rest of the things he did not want displayed on his web page, he took it down quickly, and google being a leftie leaning search engine erased all traces.  /sarcasm

No green card?
No work permit?
No letter from the Pope?

Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?

No green card?
No work permit?
No letter from the Pope?

RebTex on December 13, 2008 at 04:36 pm

He has no green card.
He has no work permit.
The letter from the Pope can be arranged.

Maybe the gov can pull a few strings!
he he he

Without an honest exchange of ideas, how can a mind grow?

Yeah! that’s an idea. Blago. I wonder how much he is charging for birth certificates from Hawaii.
Heh! he! heh! Funny!