We said this earlier, a vote for the dems was a vote for the Terrorists. What part of this do the American people not understand. Democrats will fight Terrorism like it was a law enforcement issue until there is another attack on the USA. Michael Moore would get killed if he was out loose walking the street in Bagdad, they don’t car, they would kill his fat ass too. All they know is Bush is putting a serious hurt on the terrorist and they look to the dems for respit.

Really r108. Al Q is happy to see America tied up in Iraq so they don’t want an early exit. Besides, what will they do when the Americans are gone? I suppose you see a grand jihadist/Shi’ite alliance that will govern a new Iraqi caliphate…I don’t think so.

As for any agenda congruence, that’s all in the heads of the writers at the American Thinker.

r108

Now, we are killing them in Iraq, and so they use their willing accomplices in the MSM and the Dem Party, who want to see GW defeated at any cost, to try to bring about a defeat for the USA.

Why would the MSM and the Democrats want to see GW defeated at any cost any more than the MSM and the Republicans wanted Clinton defeated? This is where your beliefs move into the realm of the irrational…with all due respect.

The Chief says

Mike, you do not know what Al-Qaeda is happy about nor do I.

But r108 and Rob do presumably. Of course I don’t “know” what makes them happy but I can see events unfold and speculate to whose advantage those events unfold. There is little indigenous Al Qaeda in Iraq and we’ve already discussed articles about the foreign jihadis moving on to Afghanistan so the premise that Iraq is the major battleground in the war on terror is outdated at best. Iraq is now a struggle for power between the various Iraqi groups with the jihadists trying to prolong the mayhem in order to keep the Americans engaged.

Rob said

Pay attention, for crying out loud.

Sorry Rob but it’s not rocket science. The situation has evolved and continues to do so.

MikeA: We wanted Clinton out because he was a bad President; the Denms and the terrorists want GW out because he is a good President. That is the difference.
It is vitally important for the forces of good to win in Iraq for a great number of reasons, and even though, as we accomplish each goal, the nature of the fight continues to evolve, that is no excuse to cut and run. Having us cut and run serves both the agenda of the Dems and of the terrorists, and the reasons for that are disgustingly similar. In any case, both of those factions prosper from a defeat of GW, so they both want it, even if you think their reasons are totally different. When you ask why, that does pose a very interesting question, but there is an answer; to me it doesn’t make sense, and I don’t share a thought process or values with either group, but I think it’s a mutual belief in highly centralized authority. There is a Hindu saying: “A snake knows the footprints of another snake.” which I think applies here.

Merry Christmas to you and all your family!

BTW, I don’t take your repeated attempts to brand me as being irrational because I don’t agree with you in a personal way. I guess that’s just part of your debating technique. Doesn’t work on me, though.

Al Q is happy to see America tied up in Iraq so they don’t want an early exit.

Absolutely false. When they did 9/11, the terrorists thought we would fold, just like Clinton, and they got a rude surprise from GW. Now, we are killing them in Iraq, and so they use their willing accomplices in the MSM and the Dem Party, who want to see GW defeated at any cost, to try to bring about a defeat for the USA. That is part of the shared agenda, as well. Just to remind you, no conspiracy is required for congruence, just the a common goal.

The media would much rather have us focus on convoluted ‘root causes’ than the real problem- dysfunctional and evil behavior. Their leftist agendas have created those root causes, so as to deny reality.

Terrorists do not regard their political ideologies as primary considerations. For them, it is about power and nothing else. In Iraq and other parts of the Middle East, the power grab by terrorists might be draped in religious garb, but in fact, there is no pretense of political respectability. There are no ‘insurgent representatives’ at the UN claiming to represent the people of Iraq. There are no examples of the terrorists in Iraq that declare national unity as an ideal and there is no pretense of offers to help anyone via social services or programs.

The terrorists are not rallying people to their cause or orchestrating mass demonstrations to bring attention to their cause, as would a political ‘insurgent.’ There are no dramatic and sympathetic leaders paraded in front of willing cameras and their are no legions of ‘spin doctors’ appearing on FNC or CNN. There are no discernible liberation movements- only movements that openly proclaim their love of Islam and their love for death (most often directed at other Muslims).

Zawahri and Al-Qaeda are smart. They know the only way they will win is by softening the American belly. Democrats were the ones who pulled us out of Vietnam in 1975, leading to the mass murder of over Two Million in Cambodia.
Chief RZ on December 23, 2006 at 08:55 am

Anti-war protests in America were a major source of moral support to the enemy during Vietnam.

And he named names: “Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses.”

Mike. Just trying to keep things honest. We both should agree that certain peoples in Muslim lands celebrated when the towers were destroyed on 9/11/01. If anyone has forgotten, look at the Captain’s blog. Now to your other question: Mike– “Iraq is now a struggle for power between the various Iraqi groups” This, Mike is a little misleading also. The Muslim sects have been at war for about 1,400 years now. Our arrival on the scene did not start this.

Really r108. Al Q is happy to see America tied up in Iraq so they don’t want an early exit.

You couldn’t be more wrong about that, Mike. Al Qaeda wants us to beat a hasty retreat so that they can a) declare victory over American forces and b) get back to focusing their resources on terror attacks against western targets.

Pay attention, for crying out loud.