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Al Zawahiri: Democrat Win Is A Win For The Terrorists

It amazes me that a) these sort of messages from the terrorists don’t get more media attention and b) that the Democrats continue their defeatist, anti-Bush-at-any-cost ways even those ways are clearly emboldening the terrorists.

Al Qaeda has sent a message to leaders of the Democratic party that credit for the defeat of congressional Republicans belongs to the terrorists.

In a portion of the tape from al Qaeda No. 2 man, Ayman al Zawahri, made available only today, Zawahri says he has two messages for American Democrats.

“The first is that you aren’t the ones who won the midterm elections, nor are the Republicans the ones who lost. Rather, the Mujahideen—the Muslim Ummah’s vanguard in Afghanistan and Iraq—are the ones who won, and the American forces and their Crusader allies are the ones who lost,” Zawahri said, according to a full transcript obtained by ABC News.

This message has more credibility given that left-wing media darling Michael F. Scheuer (the author of Imperial Hubris) said the exact same thing before the elections.

It absolutely blows my mind that more Americans don’t get that the terrorists know exactly what is going on here at home.  They know what our political climate is like, and they know what leaders they need to have in power here in America in order to achieve their agenda in the middle east.  That they are so brazen about who they’re backing politically here in America is amazing, but that pales in comparison to the amazing way Americans (and our journalists) seem to be ignoring the terrorists’ preferences for our political leaders.

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Zawahri and Al-Qaeda are smart.  They know the only way they will win is by softening the American belly.  Democrats were the ones who pulled us out of Vietnam in 1975, leading to the mass murder of over Two Million in Cambodia.


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Chief RZ on December 23, 2006 at 03:55 am

We said this earlier, a vote for the dems was a vote for the Terrorists. What part of this do the American people not understand. Democrats will fight Terrorism like it was a law enforcement issue until there is another attack on the USA. Michael Moore would get killed if he was out loose walking the street in Bagdad, they don’t car, they would kill his fat ass too. All they know is Bush is putting a serious hurt on the terrorist and they look to the dems for respit.


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goon on December 23, 2006 at 06:27 am

If you want to be played for suckers by Zawahri then be my guest but I can’t imagine why the jihadists would care which party is in power.


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MikeAdamson on December 23, 2006 at 05:23 pm
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If you want to be played for suckers by Zawahri then be my guest but I can’t imagine why the jihadists would care which party is in power.

Really, Mike?  You can’t imagine anything at all on the subject?  How about a congruence of agendas, at least to the extent of getting us to cut and run from the war on the terrorists, the Dems for political power reasons, and the terrorists to stop us from killing them?  I’m just sayin’…

robert108 on December 24, 2006 at 08:11 am

Really r108. Al Q is happy to see America tied up in Iraq so they don’t want an early exit. Besides, what will they do when the Americans are gone? I suppose you see a grand jihadist/Shi’ite alliance that will govern a new Iraqi caliphate...I don’t think so.

As for any agenda congruence, that’s all in the heads of the writers at the American Thinker.


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MikeAdamson on December 24, 2006 at 03:14 pm
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Al Q is happy to see America tied up in Iraq so they don’t want an early exit.

Absolutely false.  When they did 9/11, the terrorists thought we would fold, just like Clinton, and they got a rude surprise from GW.  Now, we are killing them in Iraq, and so they use their willing accomplices in the MSM and the Dem Party, who want to see GW defeated at any cost, to try to bring about a defeat for the USA.  That is part of the shared agenda, as well. Just to remind you, no conspiracy is required for congruence, just the a common goal.

robert108 on December 24, 2006 at 04:20 pm

robert108 right on target.  Mike, you do not know what Al-Qaeda is happy about nor do I.  I did teach school and after several months or two finally pinned down several of our worst discipline problems.  They said they would be :happy: if I called their parents.  When I finally had enough hard evidence, I started to call.  They started crying.  I called anyway.  Liars.


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Really r108. Al Q is happy to see America tied up in Iraq so they don’t want an early exit.

You couldn’t be more wrong about that, Mike.  Al Qaeda wants us to beat a hasty retreat so that they can a) declare victory over American forces and b) get back to focusing their resources on terror attacks against western targets.

Pay attention, for crying out loud.


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Rob on December 24, 2006 at 05:47 pm
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The media would much rather have us focus on convoluted ‘root causes’ than the real problem- dysfunctional and evil behavior. Their leftist agendas have created those root causes, so as to deny reality.

Terrorists do not regard their political ideologies as primary considerations. For them, it is about power and nothing else. In Iraq and other parts of the Middle East, the power grab by terrorists might be draped in religious garb, but in fact, there is no pretense of political respectability. There are no ‘insurgent representatives’ at the UN claiming to represent the people of Iraq. There are no examples of the terrorists in Iraq that declare national unity as an ideal and there is no pretense of offers to help anyone via social services or programs.

The terrorists are not rallying people to their cause or orchestrating mass demonstrations to bring attention to their cause, as would a political ‘insurgent.’ There are no dramatic and sympathetic leaders paraded in front of willing cameras and their are no legions of ’spin doctors’ appearing on FNC or CNN. There are no discernible liberation movements- only movements that openly proclaim their love of Islam and their love for death (most often directed at other Muslims).

Mickey on December 24, 2006 at 06:05 pm

r108

Now, we are killing them in Iraq, and so they use their willing accomplices in the MSM and the Dem Party, who want to see GW defeated at any cost, to try to bring about a defeat for the USA.

Why would the MSM and the Democrats want to see GW defeated at any cost any more than the MSM and the Republicans wanted Clinton defeated? This is where your beliefs move into the realm of the irrational...with all due respect.

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Mike, you do not know what Al-Qaeda is happy about nor do I.

But r108 and Rob do presumably. Of course I don’t “know” what makes them happy but I can see events unfold and speculate to whose advantage those events unfold. There is little indigenous Al Qaeda in Iraq and we’ve already discussed articles about the foreign jihadis moving on to Afghanistan so the premise that Iraq is the major battleground in the war on terror is outdated at best. Iraq is now a struggle for power between the various Iraqi groups with the jihadists trying to prolong the mayhem in order to keep the Americans engaged.

Rob said

Pay attention, for crying out loud.

Sorry Rob but it’s not rocket science. The situation has evolved and continues to do so.


"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
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MikeAdamson on December 25, 2006 at 07:36 am

and Merry Christmas to you all. I have to wait for my mother in law to come tonight so no presents for me til then. Grr.


"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

MikeAdamson on December 25, 2006 at 07:40 am
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MikeA: We wanted Clinton out because he was a bad President; the Denms and the terrorists want GW out because he is a good President.  That is the difference.
It is vitally important for the forces of good to win in Iraq for a great number of reasons, and even though, as we accomplish each goal, the nature of the fight continues to evolve, that is no excuse to cut and run.  Having us cut and run serves both the agenda of the Dems and of the terrorists, and the reasons for that are disgustingly similar.  In any case, both of those factions prosper from a defeat of GW, so they both want it, even if you think their reasons are totally different.  When you ask why, that does pose a very interesting question, but there is an answer; to me it doesn’t make sense, and I don’t share a thought process or values with either group, but I think it’s a mutual belief in highly centralized authority.  There is a Hindu saying: “A snake knows the footprints of another snake.” which I think applies here. 

Merry Christmas to you and all your family!

BTW, I don’t take your repeated attempts to brand me as being irrational because I don’t agree with you in a personal way.  I guess that’s just part of your debating technique.  Doesn’t work on me, though.

robert108 on December 25, 2006 at 08:14 am

Mike.  Just trying to keep things honest.  We both should agree that certain peoples in Muslim lands celebrated when the towers were destroyed on 9/11/01.  If anyone has forgotten, look at the Captain’s blog.  Now to your other question:  Mike-- “Iraq is now a struggle for power between the various Iraqi groups” This, Mike is a little misleading also.  The Muslim sects have been at war for about 1,400 years now.  Our arrival on the scene did not start this.


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Chief RZ on December 25, 2006 at 09:26 am

Zawahri and Al-Qaeda are smart.  They know the only way they will win is by softening the American belly.  Democrats were the ones who pulled us out of Vietnam in 1975, leading to the mass murder of over Two Million in Cambodia.
Chief RZ on December 23, 2006 at 08:55 am

Anti-war protests in America were a major source of moral support to the enemy during Vietnam.

We know that not only from plain common sense but also from the statements of former North Vietnamese military leaders who evidently didn’t get the memo telling them to lie.

In an August 3, 1995, interview in the Wall Street Journal , Bui Tin, a former colonel in the North Vietnamese Army, called the American Peace movement “essential” to the North Vietnamese victory.

“Every day’” he said, “our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 09:00 A.M. to follow the growth of the American anti-war movement.”

And he named names: “Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses.”


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Bezu Fache on December 25, 2006 at 10:08 am

r108 said

BTW, I don’t take your repeated attempts to brand me as being irrational because I don’t agree with you in a personal way.  I guess that’s just part of your debating technique.  Doesn’t work on me, though.

I very carefully and very specifically referred to your beliefs and not to yourself...that is how to keep the personal out of a discussion.

Chief...I appreciate any attempts at keeping things honest. Given that Wahhabism has only been with us since the 18th century, I don’t think that 1400 years of Islamic conflict is particularly germane unless you are highlighting the divisions within Islam through the ages and the lack of a single monolithic Islamic point of view. Your comment about some ME voices cheering the 911 attacks is unquestionably true and I am glad to see you resisting the tendency to reduce the terror situation to an us versus them state.

BF...Merry Christmas to you.


"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC

MikeAdamson on December 25, 2006 at 06:26 pm
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MikeA: So then, I’m a rational person with irrational beliefs, then?  I wanted to let you know that I really don’t care either way; let’s just get on with it. I do want to warn you, though: I just spent Christmas evening with a roomful of leftie educators, so all my irrational beliefs have been sharpened up considerably.  It was a lot of fun.

Merry Christmas!

robert108 on December 25, 2006 at 08:06 pm
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