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Sunday, February 25, 2007

Al Gore…Rock Star?

The Academy Awards are tonight and with “The Goracle” undoubtedly taking home at least one Oscar we’re going to be hearing a lot about him.  The Washington Post has an article about the phenomena of Gore’s new-found celebrity (he’s getting a honorary doctorate from the University of Minnesota and has also be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize) that, for all its gushing, reads like something you’d see about some teen idol in the pages of Tiger Beat.

In the year since his film premiered at the Sundance Film Festival, to a standing ovation, Gore has gone from failed presidential contender—and a politician who at times gave new meaning to the word cardboard—to the most unlikely of global celebrities.

Incredible as it may seem, Al Gore is not only totally carbon neutral, but geek-chic cool. No velvet rope can stop him. He rolls with Diddy. He is on first-name basis, for real, with Ludacris. But what does this mean? And how did it happen? Did Gore change? Or did the climate—political, cultural, natural—change around him?

In an e-mail exchange with The Goracle himself, “AG” typed to The Washington Post that the Oscar craziness and pageantry of the film premieres has been fun (his word) “but I’m old enough to know that a red carpet is just a rug, so I’ve been able to enjoy that part of it without losing perspective.”

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Before the film? He was more Willy Loman than Green Avenger. After his loss in 2000, a battered Gore began to schlep around the country, often solo, flying coach, giving his ever-evolving slide show about climate change, a threat that Gore, now 58, says he has felt strongly about since his Harvard days.

After the film? Says director Guggenheim, “Everywhere I go with him, they treat him like a rock star.”

Guggenheim is not being hyperbolic. Take the Cannes Film Festival: Al Gore was mobbed. By French people. He was a presenter at the Grammy Awards, alongside Queen Latifah, where he got one of the biggest welcomes of the night. “Wow. . . . I think they love you, man. You hear that?” the current Queen asked the former veep. Earlier this month, the ticket Web site at the University of Toronto crashed when 23,000 people signed on in three minutes to get a seat to hear Gore do his thing on the oceanic carbon cycle. At Boise State, Gore and his slide show sold out 10,000 seats at the Taco Bell Arena, reportedly “faster than Elton John.”

I suppose we’re supposed to be impressed by the crowds Gore can draw, but mass appeal is hardly an endorsement of Gore’s theories.  Or his sanity.  Heck even the nutball Jim Jones managed to convince almost 1,000 people to kill themselves, and in the 19th century William Miller was able to convince tens of thousands of people that the world was going to end on a date he predicted, a movement that exists - despite Miller’s predictions clearly being wrong - as the church of Seventh Day Adventists.

My point is that Gore is just the latest in a long line of proselytizers bent on shaping the people of the world to his view.  His movement is all about control.  Gore thinks we should all be living our lives a certain way, and he’ll do whatever he can to cram that “way” down our throats.  The only difference between Gore and some of his counterparts in the past - like Miller, Jones and David Koresh - is that Gore brings political connections and the power of government to the table along with the half-baked, inconclusive science he use to support his theories.  And his preaching has gone mainstream, which means that every one of us runs the risk of being pushed into toeing the line on Gore’s pseudo-religion.

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The mere fact that you know about “Tiger Beat” magazine is a bit scary, Rob. (joke)

Puzzlefeet on February 25, 2007 at 12:08 pm

1. Gore will win because Hollywood is ruled by children, refusing to grow up emotionally, and they love to play the liberal who rescues the world.

2. Algore will either be granted 5 minutes for his acceptance speech, 4.5 minutes more than others receiving an oscar; or if denied he will take the time anyway and the music will not drown him out and no one will stop him,

3. He will get a standing ovation!

Remember, another reason Hollywood likes him, according to Algore, is because the lead characters in the movie “Love Story” were he and his wife!


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on February 25, 2007 at 12:24 pm

Michael Crichton has an interesting speech discussing environmentalism as a religion, which I found very interesting.  As a non-religious person, I see myself globbing onto certain topics with a religious like fervor.  You can substitute ‘mac-zealots’, ‘sport-bikers’, ‘Packer fans’ or any other person who is a bit too passionate about their hobby for environmentalist and the general theme holds up.

http://www.michaelcrichton.net/speeches/index.html 5th one down.

RealManOfGenius on February 25, 2007 at 12:38 pm

Remember, another reason Hollywood likes him, according to Algore, is because the lead characters in the movie “Love Story” were he and his wife!

Only so far as the kid in love story and Algore were both bossed around by their father.  Not something for Algore Jr to be proud of.


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The Whistler on February 25, 2007 at 01:32 pm
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He made the most popular documentary of the year; as I’ve seen numerous times on this site, popularity is the sole criterion for artistic merit. It seems you should be cheering on his victory.

Dave on February 25, 2007 at 01:43 pm
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Its an attempt by the old media to use its (waning) influence to “rehabilitate” certain figures on the left. When the Dems won congress in November, my liberal friends claimed they were taking the “high road” and not gloating. They had been “vindicated” by the win. (Then they went right back to comparing any conservative who dared disagree with them to Hitler)

The Dixie Chicks released a very mediocre cd. Sales have been average, and they still had to cancel many concerts on the last tour. But, they got a grammy, so they have been “vindicated”. Of course, only those artists who were virulently anti-Bush won awards.

Tonight, only anti-Bush artists will win Oscars. And Algore will be....."vindicated". The reality is many radio stations still use their first amendment right to not play Dixie chick music, and millions of voters would die before casting a vote for Algore. The old media creates these “awards”, then gives them to their own to congratulate them despite failures at the box office, music store, and (thankfully) the voting booth.

I’ll find a nice game or the History Channel to watch on Oscar night

Eno on February 25, 2007 at 01:51 pm

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The Dixie Chicks released a very mediocre cd

Mediocre????  # 1 on the Billboards Country Album chart
and # 4 on the Hot 100 chart


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Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on February 25, 2007 at 02:39 pm
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And how many concert dates did they have to cancel this year due to lack of interest?

CD sales can be manipulated.


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Rob on February 25, 2007 at 02:46 pm
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as I’ve seen numerous times on this site, popularity is the sole criterion for artistic merit.

Please provide one example.

Just one.


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Rob on February 25, 2007 at 02:47 pm

He made the most popular documentary of the year…

False.  It isn’t a documentary, it’s a propaganda screed.  Human-caused global warming is an unproved hypothesis with lots of political payoffs for the lefties.


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People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

robert108 on February 25, 2007 at 02:54 pm

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You have never seen a concert canceled?
Cd sales manipulated? Yeeeesssss, I knew Joe Stanka’s Polka band was really # 1.


“We have a dollar that’s adjusting and I am for a strong dollar.....
Our dollar doesn’t buy as many barrels of oil as it used to and so therefore it’s more expensive for the American people”..... Bush 3/12/08

Mark D on February 25, 2007 at 03:01 pm

Truth matters - or at least one would think so, but so many people believe so many things that are untrue, this may be a difficult proposition to defend sometimes.

Truth should matter, but it doesn’t seem to matter enough. Part of the problem seems to be that fiction can be made to sound more exciting and dramatic; like Algore’s new tale.

In Truth and Fiction in the Da Vinci Code, Bart D. Ehrman writes: Truth and Fiction in the Da Vinci Code

The ability of film directors and book authors to affect public sentiment and to shift public thinking is neither a good thing nor a bad one; it is simply the reality of the times.

But when the images they create for their viewers or readers are erroneous — well, it means people misunderstand history as it really is and substitute fiction for facts.

Maybe there is no real harm in that. But for those of us who spend our lives studying history, it can grate a bit on the nerves.

Movies and books with historical connections are quite common — they may be sold as fiction, but setting the stories in some sort of genuine, historical context can make the events seem more real and this may draw readers into the tale more readily.

There’s certainly nothing wrong with setting a fiction within history or fictionalizing historical events and quite a lot that can be right about it, especially if you are up-front about what you are doing.

The closer these fictions come to actual people and events, though, the more the line between fiction and fact can be blurred — even with warnings and disclaimers.

There’s only so much authors and directors can do; in the end, perhaps people are just lazy and don’t do enough to separate fact from fiction in their own minds.

Ideally, fictionalized events set in a historical context would inspire people to learn more about the actual history.

Unfortunately, so many people seem to disdain reality in favor of fiction. Stories about the past don’t have enough drama when they stick to facts. Explanations about science and universe aren’t exciting without the suggestion of paranormal aspects.


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Dirty Jack Cash on February 25, 2007 at 04:20 pm
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If the “boracle” wins the oscar tonight I will never watch them again.

Greg on February 25, 2007 at 04:58 pm
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Good post, Rob. Tiger Beat meets chiliastic fervor. It’s all just Bad Religion.

ncwood on February 25, 2007 at 06:27 pm

I can hear Al Gore now,...I’m ready for my close up Mr. deMille! Maybe Al has finally ffound his nich?

Zsa Zsa on February 25, 2007 at 07:07 pm

Hollywood is ruled by the ‘Cult of Personality’.  Right now, Al Gore is their High Priest, and they will worship him.

Sluggo on February 25, 2007 at 07:23 pm
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Rob: It’s so easy, I don’t even have to leave this thread to do so:

Eno writes:

The Dixie Chicks released a very mediocre cd.

And what made it so mediocre?

Sales have been average, and they still had to cancel many concerts on the last tour. But, they got a grammy

It wasn’t popular… how dare it win awards for artistic excellence?!?!
Dave on February 25, 2007 at 08:06 pm
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I don’t see where a few casual comments from Eno indicates that he’s judging the Dixie Chicks on market success alone.

But regardless.  If you can’t see that folks like the Dixie Chicks and Al Gore getting all this lavish praise from the entertainment industry has more to do with knee-jerk politics than actual artistic performance you’re an idiot (which we already know from your impassioned defense of bestiality).

I mean, Gore’s movie was basically him showing a slide show.  C’mon.  Get a clue.


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Rob on February 25, 2007 at 08:20 pm
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If you can’t see that folks like the Dixie Chicks and Al Gore getting all this lavish praise from the entertainment industry has more to do with knee-jerk politics than actual artistic performance you’re an idiot

Well, it’s impossible to argue against that line of reasoning.

Why didn’t “Fahrenheit 9/11” win any Oscars? Not liberal enough?

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Moore:

I have decided not to submit “Fahrenheit 9/11” for consideration for the Best Documentary Oscar. If there is even the remotest of chances that I can get this film seen by a few million more Americans before election day, then that is more important to me than winning another documentary Oscar.


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Rob on February 25, 2007 at 08:49 pm
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Forget what Hollywood says, forget what the press says, forget the Oscars, I just hope that Al Gore eventually announces that he will run. I think the country needs him.
Having been a Republican for a long time, I actually voted for Bush when he ran against Gore, and I have been kicking myself ever since.
I think it’s amazing how Gore went, as the article says, from failed Presidential candidate to media superstar and I’m glad he’s using that fame for a good cause.
He’s not perfect, and I certainly wouldn’t call myself a Democrat by any means, but I wish Gore would run.

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If you’re not a Democrat, or a liberal I’m guessing, what does Gore really have to offer you?

More big government?  Because that’s all his global warming schtick is about.


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Rob on February 25, 2007 at 09:38 pm
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Rob: Same question. Why did Michael Moore’s “Fahrenheit 9/11” not win any Oscars--like, say, the Oscar for… I don’t know, Best Picture? Though, let me point out, you did an absolutely fabulous job explaining why it didn’t win one very specific award. Great work! Keep it up!

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Dave, are you really this much of a moron?

Documentaries only qualify for two categories:

1. Documentary Feature - films more than 40 minutes in running time, and

2. Documentary Short Subject - films 40 minutes or less (including all credits) in running time.

Also, they must be submitted to the academy in order to be even considered.  And Moore didn’t do that.

Any time you’re ready to admit that you’re wrong, Davey, I’ll be willing to accept your apology.


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Rob on February 25, 2007 at 10:42 pm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3633494.stm

Michael Moore plans to enter Fahrenheit 9/11 as best picture, rather than best documentary, at the Academy Awards.

But Moore said he hoped to have the film aired on television before November’s presidential election to reach “as many Americans as possible”.

According to Academy rules, this would invalidate its entry in the documentary category, but not for best film.

I’ll accept your apology.  rolleyes

Do you do any research, Rob?

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You dishonest little turd.  A documentary has never been nominated into the Best Picture category.  Never.  Why?  Because the Best Picture category is for fiction films.  Not documentaries.

Documentaries belong in the documentaries category.  Moore’s film didn’t win the Best Picture category not because Hollywood isn’t liberal, as you posit, but rather because Moore refused to submit it in the proper category. Mostly because he wanted to time the documentary more for the elections than for the Oscars.

And you accuse me of not doing any research.

Now just go ahead and admit that you’re wrong.


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Rob on February 25, 2007 at 11:47 pm

Moore’s films = garbage. I think he needs to retake Stat101. I prefer the Muppet Babies.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on February 26, 2007 at 05:08 am
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Dave: Are you trying to seriously state that the latest Dixie Chicks self indulgent screed was such a beautifully crafted work it deserved reward purely on its artistic merit? You’re right, I can’t argue with that logic.

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Because the Best Picture category is for fiction films.

No, the Best Picture category is for, surprisingly, the best picture--in any genre, not just fiction, so long as it is “feature length” (over 40 minutes). Link...some words might be too big for you.

Fahrenheit 9/11 satisfied all 5 criteria to be eligible; that’s why, as everyone who knows anything about the Oscars, Michael Moore, or Fahrenheit 9/11 can tell you, Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11 was eligible for the Best Picture Oscar. (As you may remember, he also won the People’s Choice Award for facorite film--not just favorite documentary film.) It turns out, the class “Documentary Film” fits inside the larger class of “Films”. Funny how that works out; it’s because a “documentary film” is a type of film in itself!

How can I make it so you understand? Sayanythingblog is both a “conservative blog” (specific!) and a “blog” (general!). So, therefore, it could win an award for “best blog” even though you would argue that it is not a “blog,” but a “conservative blog.” You would argue this because you’re very close to being too stupid to function in the everyday world.

A documentary has never been nominated into the Best Picture category.  Never.

Yes, and a foreign film has never won. Does this mean that only English language films are eligible to win the Oscar for Best Picture? Only if you failed Logic 101. (I suppose it’s also true in Rob’s universe that the NBA’s Rookie Team is officially not allowed to beat the Sophomores, just because they haven’t done so yet.)

“Hollywood” could have made history by awarding “Fahrenheit 9’11” as the first documentary film ever to win Best Picture. They did not do so because, of course, that movie just wasn’t liberal enough for those Socialists.

Dave on February 26, 2007 at 07:20 am

You would argue this because you’re very close to being too stupid to function in the everyday world.

In the everyday world, an effeminate weenie like Dave can’t get away with talking like this. He’s only big when he’s talking tough while advocating for infanticide and bestiality.

(I will have to say that many of us enjoyed your absence Dave.)

likwidshoe on February 26, 2007 at 08:48 am

So, the Oscars are “green” this year?  Then HOW did Al Gore and all those celebs GET to the Academy Awards?  Did they come from all over the country and all over the world in little electric cars?  How did they get to the theater?  Did they walk or ride bikes?  They took gas-guzzling, earth- polluting airplanes and limousines, come on!

GroovyPKP on February 26, 2007 at 11:27 am

The “Academy Awards” are for entertainment, not real life.

Honestly, I got a good hardy laugh at Al’s video.

Mickey on February 26, 2007 at 11:37 am

I will have to say that many of us enjoyed your absence Dave.

I think its nice to have a pro-horse-fucking / purported-Libertarian / vegetarian blogger here at SA. A variety of thought is always better. A loud din.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on February 26, 2007 at 05:26 pm

The cartoonist probably just found an old shot of Gore at a Grateful Dead show and sketched that. Looks like an outfit he would have been wearing ‘back in the day’.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on February 26, 2007 at 05:29 pm
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I think its nice to have a pro-horse-fucking / purported-Libertarian / vegetarian blogger here at SA.

Are you a ”purported human”?

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Dave, do you really think you can win arguments by simply being annoying, mischaraterizing other people’s arguments and never admitting that you’re wrong?  Preferring instead to engage in absurd rationalizations that do nothing but make you look, well, stupid?

I didn’t say that Moore’s documentary didn’t qualify for Best Picture.  I’m saying that the agreed upon consensus is that it didn’t win because documentaries typically aren’t considered highly for best picture.  For a number of reasons, a lot of them having to do with marketing, etc.  The big studios don’t want to see their film lose out on best picture just to make a political statement, proving that money talks louder than ideology even sometimes in Hollywood.

So your argument, that because Moore’s documentary didn’t win best film Hollywood doesn’t have a politically liberal, isn’t a good one.  It doesn’t make sense, for all the reasons I’ve repeatedly pointed out for you.

Now go ahead and respond with some insult and witty (to you) rationalization.  You’re not here for debate, you’re here to troll and get under people’s skin.  Because you’re like 21 years old, and that’s what dumb kids do.


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Rob on February 26, 2007 at 10:24 pm
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Rob writes:

I didn’t say that Moore’s documentary didn’t qualify for Best Picture.

Yes you did: 

Documentaries only qualify for two categories:

1. Documentary Feature - films more than 40 minutes in running time, and

2. Documentary Short Subject - films 40 minutes or less (including all credits) in running time.

(http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/al_gorerock_star/#c163685)

Any time you’re ready to admit that you’re wrong, (Robbie), I’ll be willing to accept your apology.

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Alright, you caught me.  I did say documentaries only qualify for two categories, and I was wrong about that.  That isn’t exactly what I meant to say at the time, but it’s what I wrote.  I was wrong.

See how I admit when I get something wrong?

Now I’d expect you to come clean about this retarded line of reasoning not even remotely supporting your conclusions, but I doubt you have the honesty for that sort of thing.


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Rob on February 27, 2007 at 11:00 am
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Rob: I apologize for having to use four posts to finally convince you that you were completely wrong and didn’t understand how the Oscars worked. I further apologize for having to continually correct your misinformation and general ignorance regarding Hollywood cinema conventions.

Dave on February 27, 2007 at 11:30 am

I apologize for having to use four posts to finally convince you that you were completely wrong and didn’t understand how the Oscars worked. I further apologize for having to continually correct your misinformation and general ignorance regarding Hollywood cinema conventions.

You are pretty ‘sorry’ Dave.


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Rob: I apologize for having to use four posts to finally convince you that you were completely wrong and didn’t understand how the Oscars worked. I further apologize for having to continually correct your misinformation and general ignorance regarding Hollywood cinema conventions.

What did you correct?  Other than you pointed out one instance where I typed something I didn’t mean.  Yes, I was wrong when I said documentaries can only be considered for the documentary category.

But my over-arching point is accurate, whether you’re honest enough to admit it or not.


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Rob on February 27, 2007 at 12:21 pm

...Hollywood cinema conventions.

Now there’s a vitally important category of information!


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People have the mistaken notion that the free market has no rules.  But it most certainly does.  All our problems are due to government meddling.

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