ACORN Casts Attempts To Stop Vote Fraud As Attempts To Suppress Minority Voter

• November 1, 2008

Right. Don’t fix the problems. Try to distract from them by accusing the other side of being racist.

(CNN) — Community organization ACORN is fighting back after allegations that it is trying to register voters fraudulently and to swing the presidential election for Democrat Barack Obama.
The group this week released a 30-second TV ad calling on Republican candidate John McCain to stop “attempts at voter suppression across the country.”
It also said it was filing several lawsuits around the country to halt the alleged suppression.
Republicans have “challenged election officials and they’ve filed lawsuits in an effort to thwart these new voters — our citizens — from casting their votes on Tuesday. This effort must be stopped,” Delaware ACORN board member Hugh Alleyne said during a news conference Wednesday.
ACORN contends it tried to help authorities head off election fraud.

Sure. They help authorities head off election fraud by filing tens of thousands of fraudulent voter registrations around the country.
Well done.

Tags: Domestic Issues, Politics

http://Array RebTex

Why is it generally thought by the democrats that minorities aren’t intelligent enough to fill out a voters registration form by themselves?
I would like to think the minorities would want to live up to normal standards than live down to the democrats idea of them.
My group doesn’t get much help from the democrats.
I figured out why, too!
I’m red.
RebTex

I don’t know how you could support a party that t thinks that some one who looses their home should also loose their right to vote.

I don’t know how you can support a party that clearly detests America for being successful.
Those that are facing the foreclosures are those that took loans they couldn’t actually afford.
Had your party actually gave a $hit about them, they would have instituted a program to educate folks about home loans & their responsibilities associated with signing the paperwork.
But, nooooooo….They spent their resources trying to get MORE bad paper out there & in turn, used their efforts to defraud the people into signing up to vote in illegal ways.
bob roberts

Di Butler, maybe if you did a little more reading and didn’t do “research” on youtube.com you’d have a better understanding your self. Fannie May and Fredi Mac are both publicly traded companies not bloated government programs. The problem is not big government oversight as you’d argue. But Sarah Palin didn’t know that either, why should you. That’s what you’re looking for in a candidate right? Some one who’s as uninformed as you are. Knowledge scary, Palin hot.
If you don’t believe me look em up on google finance.

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Bob Roberts

No it means that Republican are using foreclosure lists to challenge voters because they know that anyone who was just kicked out of their home is not likely to vote for a rich guy with eight houses. I don’t know how you could support a party that t thinks that some one who looses their home should also loose their right to vote.
Hungry Bear

I don’t know how you could support a party that t thinks that some one who looses their home should also loose their right to vote.

Nobody is trying to stop anyone from casting a legal vote. What we don’t want is votes being cast by illegal aliens, felons, dead people, children, and people in comas.
Hungry Bear

Acorn is not a quasi government organization they are a private non-profit that raises their funds from membership dues.

Actually Acorn gets money from the government, well funded leftist foundations, wealthy left wing individuals, and unscrupulous political campaigns.

Acorn flagged registrations that were suspect but are required by law to submit every registration that they receive. The mickey mouse registrations were identified by Acorn them selves.

Why does this keep happening with Acorn election after election, state after state. Clearly there’s something completely wrong with Acorn’s practices if they repeatedly have these problems. If this were a onetime problem, I could buy the “our employees took advatage of us” defense. But when it keeps happening, then I have to conclude that something about the organization is corrupt.

The fact is that voter fraud does take place. I personally know of noncitizens who vted in the 1992 and 1996 elections. I also know of individuals who have gone to vote only to find that someone has already been in and used their name to cast a ballot.

Voter fraud is real. It’s taking place now. And it’s unAmerican.
Bob Roberts

The reason that these challenges have effected minorities disproportionately is because they have targeted minority districts for challenges. Acorn is not a quasi government organization they are a private non-profit that raises their funds from membership dues. Acorn flagged registrations that were suspect but are required by law to submit every registration that they receive. The mickey mouse registrations were identified by Acorn them selves.
Bob Roberts

Bat one I never saw your response on the sub prime mortgage crisis, but I’m starting to see a pattern here. The economy is collapsing, your party is collapsing, and the only thing you can think to do is blame minorities. Unchecked deregulation led to the collapse of the banking system, blame minorities.
Bat One

If, as ACORN claims, those concerned about voter fraud are suppressing minority voters, doesn’t that mean that it is minority voters who are committing the fraud?
RebTex

But, on that same line of thought, would the said minorities be committing the fraud without the help of the quasi-government program called ACORN?
While every caste has it’s trash, I don’t think the minorities , as a whole, would want to be on the wrong side of this.
Bob Roberts

Hey RedNeckTex, First off I’m not a Dem. But the Democrats did support loans to low income Americans that required as a precondition for qualification that the applicant take a class to educate them about the loan and home markets. They are called CRA loans part of the Community Redevelopment Act. They have been around for years and have had a lower default rate than the mortgages from the top ten leading banks. But it was the The Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000 sponsored by John McCain’s economic adviser Phil Gramm, (who famously called American workers a bunch of whiners.) This bill lead to a $62 trillion unregulated securities swap market that lead to the crisis in our banking system. It also created the Enron loop whole. Who did Grahm let write the little gem? Enron! There has been eight years of systematic wealth redistribution under Bush, from out pockets to their corporate masters.

Gramm and Enron

The battle over the “Enron loophole” also could draw attention to McCain’s dependence on Gramm as his chief economic adviser and Gramm’s key role in passing legislation that let Enron trade commodities on electronic platforms without federal oversight.

In 2000, with the Republicans in charge of Congress and Gramm chairing the Senate Banking Committee, the exemption on electronic trading was approved without a Senate hearing.

http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/2008/051908Leopold.shtml
bob roberts

No CRAs were the programs that were supported by those “socialist” dems. The rest of the mortgages were a result of the deregulated securities swaps that was pushed through by Phil Gramm that allowed banks to make risky loans that they could bundle and push the risk off on our pension plans. The problem was that thanks to them there was no regulation on those e$12 trillion in loans. The real crime is that we are paying the price. It was the house republican that insisted on loosening these regulations even more during the$700 billion bail out by by insisting on allowing banks to get away with out having to report the value or risk of the securities on their balance sheets, instead of capping the salaries of these ass wholes who cause the crisis. Which is precisely what got us into the mess. Your boys had eight years to fuck up our economy your time is up.
mplsbob

I’m a Dem liberal, but after reading about how Dems were the party that blocked oversight over the housing crisis time and again made me rethink my party affiliation. I’m voting for MaCain now.

See Bob, I can do it too. Lie and say your not a Dem when you are.
bob roberts

Fredi and Fannie are not government agencies. They are private companies with an “implicit” guarantee from the government. Which is the worst possible situation. No oversight and they get to keep the money when times are good and they don’t have to take the hit when they’re bad. It’s socialized risk and privatized profits. This has been a consistent policy under Greenspan and the “Free Marketers” since Regan. It continued through Bush 1 and Clinton just got unbelievably worse under Bush 2. But that’s what happens when you vote for a guy because he’s the life of the keg party.
di butler

Bob Roberts,

Have you always sniffed glue? There is a video on youtube made by a young guy for people who don’t understand how this all came about. It’s called “Burning Down the House,” I made my children watch it so it’s very comprehensive.
bob roberts

True the Dems should have done more to push for oversight. But to say that they blocked it? It’s your presidents administration that wrote the bail out!! He also gave a total of $95 billion to AIG the company that insured the securities in the Credit swaps that were made possible under the commodities deregulation writen by Phil Gramm. Of course they had no problem spending our tax money on a 400,000 dollar spa retreat in California. Sounds a hell of a lot like wealth redistribution to me. Is Bush a socialist? I think Americans are ready for a president who’s better on economics than drinking. But you go ahead and vote for the guy you’d like to have a beer with. He’ll have plenty of time go drinking because he ain’t making it to the white house.
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The rest of the mortgages were a result of the deregulated securities swaps that was pushed through by Phil Gramm that allowed banks to make risky loans that they could bundle and push the risk off on our pension plans.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were created by Phil Gramm?

Who knew?

Those two entities owned over half of the sub-prime market. They never made loans, but rather bought them, which in turn freed up the market to continue making bad loans.

The problem was that thanks to them there was no regulation on those e$12 trillion in loans.

Weird how two Democrat created government agencies, that own over half of a heavily skewered market, is not blamed. Instead, “no regulation” and Republicans are blamed.

…instead of capping the salaries of these ass wholes who cause the crisis.

THAT is a function of our government? Wow.

Which is precisely what got us into the mess. Your boys had eight years to fuck up our economy your time is up.

Blah blah blah. You have rhetoric, bob.
http://sayanythingblog.com robport

The CRA wasn’t the only problem with the housing crisis.

51% of the $12 trillion mortgage market was owned or secured by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. How do you suppose that happened?

Big. Government. Poliices. Of the sort favored by Demcorats…and unfortunately a few Republicans these days too.

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