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Sunday, October 29, 2006


ACLU Drops Challenge Of Patriot Act

Interesting…

DETROIT - The American Civil Liberties Union on Friday dropped a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the USA Patriot Act.

The ACLU said it was withdrawing the lawsuit filed more than three years ago because of “improvements to the law.” The Justice Department argued last month that amendments approved by Congress in March 2006 had corrected any constitutional flaws in the Patriot Act.

“While the reauthorized Patriot Act is far from perfect, we succeeded in stemming the damage from some of the Bush administration’s most reckless policies,” Ann Beeson, associate legal director of the ACLU in New York, said in a written statement.

Is the ACLU really dropping this lawsuit because the Patriot Act has been fixed and is no longer unconstitutional, or are they dropping it because the whole “creeping fascism”/“Bush is stealing your civil liberties” meme isn’t playing too well with the American public?

I’m guessing it’s the latter.  There’s no way the ACLU, after three years of flogging this lawsuit and what has to be hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in legal fees, suddenly decided that everything was kosher with the Patriot Act.  No, I think the real reason they’ve dropped this is political.  They know the majority of Americans are against them on this subject, so they’re cutting their losses.

It’d just be nice if we could get them to admit that a) they were wrong all along about this and b) they’ve wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars of tax payer money in forcing the government to defend laws that protect this country from terror threats and are perfectly constitutional.

And a check from the ACLU to cover the tax money spent on this lawsuit would be nice, too.

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I think it is also because of the possible gains of Democrats in the House and Senate. They too may need some of those features that the Patriot Act provides. If that becomes the case, people could and should see that as hypocrisy.

Rachel on October 29, 2006 at 08:03 am
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Great analysis on this and many great points.  I added a link to your post to the post we have at Stop The ACLU.

Jay on October 29, 2006 at 08:31 am
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That should say…atStop The ACLU

Jay on October 29, 2006 at 08:35 am
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It’s important to read the entire article before jumping to silly conclusions.  This was not the only lawsuit the ACLU had against the P Act, or even the most contentious one.

plunge on October 29, 2006 at 10:16 am
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Your blog is very well named.

tgb on October 29, 2006 at 10:46 am
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They’ve dropped one lawsuit.  IIRC, there are others proceeding against other sections of the law.

With respect to the good faith of the ACLU, it’d be fairly easy to check: find the complaint and see if the complaint actually turns on the altered provisions of the law.  If you were interested in finding out the truth rather than bloviating, that’d be what you would have done.

jpe on October 29, 2006 at 11:06 am

jpe, why don’t you do that. I know why Aging Communist Liberal Union dropped this particular action. They were losing.


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on October 29, 2006 at 12:12 pm
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“It’d just be nice if we could get them to admit that a) they were wrong all along about this and b) they’ve wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars of tax payer money in forcing the government to defend laws that protect this country from terror threats and are perfectly constitutional.”

Well, it would be nice if we could get you to admit you sent thousands of young people and hundreds of thousands of iraqis to their death just so you could get over your problem with premature ejaculation.

anon on October 29, 2006 at 12:15 pm

Never popped a round early, what is that like?


Una Salus Victus Nullam Sperare Salutem

2Hotel9 on October 29, 2006 at 12:27 pm
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why don’t you do that. I know why Aging Communist Liberal Union dropped this particular action.

ie, ‘who needs facts when I’ve got women’s intuition.’

jpe on October 29, 2006 at 02:06 pm
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Is this the same one that Judge Taylor-Diggs ruled on? 

Maybe they realize that if they start losing their claims the law they create won’t be to their liking anymore.  Another good reason to elect conservatives.

AST on October 29, 2006 at 02:12 pm
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JPE is exactly right. Rob, why don’t actually keep up with events of the real world? Of course, you’d have to pull your head out of your ass to do that.

SocraticGadfly on October 29, 2006 at 06:20 pm

More “gadfly”(reflex arguer) than “socratic”, I see.  I had no idea Socrates favored personal attack over substance.  More leftie BS.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on October 29, 2006 at 06:31 pm
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JPE is exactly right. Rob, why don’t actually keep up with events of the real world?

Socratic…note that jpe hasn’t even bothered to do what he suggested I do.

You’d think if he was so interested in making me look dumb he’d do it.  Telling that he won’t, or probably can’t.


The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

Rob on October 29, 2006 at 07:24 pm
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if it was political, why did they only drop one out of the many lawsuits they have pending about the PATRIOT Act?

Dan on October 30, 2006 at 11:23 am
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That’s right, Dan.  Spin.  Spin as hard and fast as you can.

The ACLU wouldn’t have dropped this lawsuit if it weren’t a lost cause.


The purpose of government shouldn’t be to do good, but simply to refrain from doing evil.

Rob on October 30, 2006 at 11:30 am
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I only see one lawsuit being contined in that article, not several.  The bloggers point is still valid.  The ACLU huffed and puffed an awful lot to just quit after a few minor changes in the law.  I think one of my civil liberties that needs defending is useless lawsuits against the governement that are brought by political groups that aren’t concerned with truth or justice but just their own petty gain.

rtl on October 30, 2006 at 03:10 pm
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