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Friday, July 04, 2008

Above the Law

Not a Steven Segal movie, but this guy:

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The state of Florida recently passed a law permitting employees to keep firearms locked in their vehicles in the parking lot where they work. Not so fast, says Walt Disney World!

The giant resort has declared that much of its sprawling property is exempt from a new state law that allows Floridians with concealed-weapons permits to keep firearms locked in their cars at work.
Disney, which has 60,000 employees and a long-standing policy against allowing guns on its land, cites an arcane—and late-added—loophole in the new law, which took effect Tuesday.

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Wait ‘til you hear the “loophole” they want to drive a Matterhorn ride through!

Disney cites language within Florida’s newly enacted “Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008” that creates an exception for companies whose primary business is to manufacture, use, store or transport explosives regulated under federal law.

What??? The primary business of an amusement park is to “manufacture, use, store or transport explosives regulated under federal law”? So, the fireworks in the park are their “primary” business? This doesn’t pass the smell test!

“I intended it to exempt places like defense plants, Air Force bases, things like that,” said Peaden, who sponsored the bill in the Senate. “But not Disney. Not at all.”

But on the same day that the House took its final vote on the gun bill, the exemption for explosives companies was revised so that it also includes “property owned or leased by an employer who has obtained a permit” under federal law for such explosives.

Disney has such a permit, for the extensive fireworks used in its theme parks. State Rep. Stan Mayfield, a Vero Beach Republican also involved in crafting the final legislation, said lawmakers had agreed to insert that exception at the request of a small group of lawyers representing several businesses and business groups—including Disney.

But Mayfield said nobody ever intended for the language to spare so much of the Disney resort, which covers about 30,000 acres.

“I don’t think anybody that voted for that bill expected Disney to be exempt,” Mayfield said.

So, thanks to a little slight of hand by Disney lawyers, the intent of the law is thwarted!
Let’s hear it for the heirs of Disneyland disregarding the spirit of the Second Amendment!

Hat tip HuffPo
Cross Posted at Proof Positive

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Well, one step at a time for these people to return to family oriented amusement. Davy Crocket would not be pleased.  They finally got rid of eisner, that twisted individual who almost ruined WDW for families with his twinkletoes invitations for weekly foolishness.  They need to understand that Orlando is full of hardened felons as well as illegal aliens who do not follow laws.  Fortunately, no attacks have happened in parking, but allowing law-abiding citizens to defend themselves would not go against State Law, Federal Law or Natural Laws of self protection.


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Chief RZ on July 4, 2008 at 01:23 pm
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Fortunately, no attacks have happened in parking,

The inability to keep a personal weapon in their car while they’re at work, (for concealed carry permit holders, not just the hoi polloi) disarms them not only in the parking lot, but on their commute to an from work as well!


For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

Proof on July 4, 2008 at 01:29 pm

I would tell them to pound sand because how are they to know if you have a firearm in your vehicle or not? The is B.S. This shoudl be challenged in court.


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goon on July 4, 2008 at 01:47 pm

Involved in crafting the final legislation.
Senator Durell Peaden, Jr.  District 2 Republican
State Rep. Stan Mayfield, a Vero Beach Republican

Now somebody explain to me how these two allowed this to happen.

ellinas on July 4, 2008 at 03:45 pm

This should be challenged in court.

It has been challenged.

February 16, 2006
Court Upholds Employer’s Policy on Guns in Parking Lots

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit has ruled that an Oklahoma employer was acting within its legal rights when it fired workers for violating its policy barring firearms in the company’s parking lots.

More here:
http://hr.blr.com/news.aspx?id=17825

I’m hoping the newest SCOTUS ruling may affect it though.


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C. Y. on July 4, 2008 at 10:34 pm
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Hold on one second there all you bitter 2nd Amendment gun-toters! SCOTUS says 2nd Amend is individual right. Check! Fla. has pretty easy going laws concerning right to carry firearms. Check! This new law consists of the Government telling an employer they cannot tell their employees what they can or cannot do on the employers property? How is that a conservative viewpoint?
Look, I agree that Disney is run by a bunch of tools. Praise God my kids are college age and away from the new crap that company puts out. But if the company wants to say employees cannot bring guns onto their property, whats wrong with that? The company you work for tells you what to wear, how to talk to customers, etc. My right to carry a gun doesn’t “trump” his right to manage his property

Eno on July 5, 2008 at 05:29 am

Disney has, in point of fact, the right to ban firearms from their property. So don’t park on their property. Oh, thats right, Disney employees are required to park in designated areas, and to submit to physical search, of person and vehicle, at any time so deemed by company security.

Be very careful who you work for.


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2Hotel9 on July 5, 2008 at 05:49 am

Eno.  Can a private employee ban 1st Amendment, 4th or the entire constitution?
Can they violate the 14th?  I thought we got through this back in the 70s?

Private clubs car hardly discriminate between men and women even now.

Can they ban cameras?  Perhaps for copyright but that would be a stretch.

If the above can be imposed upon corporations, then certainly the Constitution’s
Bill of Rights extends to public companies, restaurants and other places where the public is invited.


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Chief RZ on July 5, 2008 at 07:01 am

I would think that a lawsuit on the substance of the law should be successful.

I don’t think Disney can convince anyone reasonable that fireworks are their primary business.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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I think the clause about “obtaining the permit” is the part they’re trying to exploit.



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

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