ABC News Conveniently Edits Michelle Obama’s Reference To Automatic Weapon

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Appearing in ABC News recently, First Lady Michelle Obama blamed the shooting of teenager in Chicago on an “automatic weapon.”

Unfortunately, that wasn’t accurate, the weapon used according to the police report was a handgun:

In an interview with Good Morning America’s Robin Roberts aired this morning, First Lady Michelle Obama recalled the tragic death of 15-year-old Hadiya Pendleton who was shot and killed in Chicago after performing during the President’s Inauguration celebration in Washington D.C.

“She was caught in the line of fire because some kids had some automatic weapons they didn’t need,” the First Lady explained. “I just don’t want to keep disappointing our kids in this country. I want them to know that we put them first.”

Chicago police reported, however, that Pendleton was shot by a man who “opened fire with a handgun before fleeing in a waiting car.”

As is pointed out at the link, ABC edited out the First Lady’s reference to an “automatic weapon” in their broadcast (her words remained unchanged in the web version). That’s convenient for the Obama administration. After all, they’re not trying to ban handguns. The president has specifically declined to make handguns part of his gun control agenda.

Instead the President has focused on so-called “assault weapons,” because they’re scarier or something, despite the fact that handguns are used in far more crimes than rifles.

So the Obama administration can’t let people get the idea that their gun control platform might not actually be about addressing crimes committed by guns but rather about perceptions about certain guns based on their appearances. And they had ABC News to help them out.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • SigFan

    The media is more and more becoming the propaganda apparatus of the Obamao administration. And adding Axelgrease and Fibbs over at MSDNC seals the deal.

  • Thresherman

    In the words of my Democratic voting mother, “If what you say is true, how come we did not hear it on the news?” To a certain segment of our society, if it is not on the news, it didn’t happen. The liberals rely on this and that is why they hate Fox News for not adhering to the party line.

    • $8194357

      Yup.
      Made for TV propaganda mis information agendas.

  • JoeMN

    Yet just as in the case of the gun control bill which originally violated the fourth amendment, everything post edit on the left “never happened”.

    • slackwarerobert

      Sadly you can’t violate something that doesn’t exist. In the good ol days when we had a constitution it would have violated it.
      Lets hope janet nepolitano announcing she is releasing the criminals rather than fire her homeland security goons finally wake up the nuts you Do Need a Gun.
      What is so hard about releasing them on the OTHER side of the border and keep the people safe?

      • JoeMN

        By releasing the criminal aliens, she is merely saving them the trouble of (illegally) crossing back over the galaxy wide big empty the left calls a “secure” border one more time, thus not present to provide a valuable service to the cartels as smugglers.

        Oh, what a tangled web (of deceit) they weave.

        • slackwarerobert

          Yes, but a lot will die because she can’t afford to man the watering holes in the middle of nowhere. I think you bus them in the first time, second time you give them a parachute and drop them over southern mexico jungle, third time you tell them to put on the chute they were given previously before dropping them out. Now you can spot them easily because they will be wearing there parachutes while in the US just in case. You don’t need mexico’s permission to fly in international airspace, so nothing to stop you from deporting them home.

          • JoeMN

            There is a much easier way.

            You want less of something ? You tax the batsnot out of it.

            Libs should love this idea.

            It’s our generous entitlements that create this artificial demand for illegal immigrant labor

            The reality is that if we were to slash these entitlements, and allow a free market economy to flourish by getting the government boot off the necks of producers, in time we would instead be placing help wanted signs in Mexico to thwart a potential labor glut.

  • slackwarerobert

    Darn, when I read the link I thought she spilled the beans that automatic weapons were fine when she has them in DC and no one else can even have a gun.

    Could this story finally lay to rest what a brilliant women she is? For an angry black women she might be smart, but against population as a whole, unedumacated.

  • sbark

    Pat Caddell, a Democratic pollster and staunch liberal, said,

    “I think we’re at the most dangerous time in our political history in terms of the balance of power in the role that the media plays in whether or not we maintain a free democracy or not.”

    When Big government and a complicit media conspire to hide the truth they are attacking our freedom………..and then you hear the left throw out Obama/Biden have nowhere near the gaffes that even GW did………they want to be low information citizens—the media doenst even have to hide the truth from them, they run from it.

    • $8194357

      yup

  • mickey_moussaoui

    Why is Michelle Obama wearing a helmet in that photo? Is she too lazy to wash her hair?

    • slackwarerobert

      Maybe bill clinton was nearby and she didn’t have time to fix her hair where he messed it up grabbing hold of her.

    • camsaure

      Looks like she just glued a cheap wig or some roadkill to her nazi helmet.

    • awfulorv

      I hear tell she is being considered for a role in another “Planet of The Apes” sequel?

  • whowon

    I will be so happy when I can again be proud of our first lady, this is painful.

  • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

    What evidence do you have that a revolver was used?

    • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

      Did someone say a revolver was used?

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        So if a revolver wasn’t used, and it was a pistol….that leaves what, a ball and cap? No, it was mostly likely an automatic of some kind. Probably a semi auto pistol. But it’s an automatic, nonetheless.

        • Thresherman

          Yeah because there is no difference between a semi automatic and an automatic. That is why the felt they had to edit it out, because there was no difference.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession
          • slackwarerobert

            Then why does obama waste all that money buying automatic weapons when he could buy semi’s at 1/20th the cost at least.
            The only place there is no difference is in the gun grabbers heads because they want all the guns taken away.

          • slackwarerobert

            The difference is in the use. Fully automatic are better for laying down suppressive fire, semi-automatic are better for shooting targets you can see. There is a reason snipers don’t use an automatic rifle.

        • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

          You seem to be horribly confused.

          • $16179444

            Hannitard confused? SHOCKING! /sarcasm

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Did the gunman use a revolver, Mark?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            No, that’s just your weak minded attempt to dismiss logic that you are too cowardly to confront with a rational argument.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            Logic? Where was your logic? You wouldn’t know a rational argument if it ran up your leg, managed to find your balls, and bit them.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            It was deductive, you idiot.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            Man, are you ever a mess! If it was deductive—and since you are making pretense to be logical—you could enlighten us all by outlining your deductive process formally. I would be fascinated to see that.

          • Spartacus

            I find it impressive that he is flexible enough to have his foot in his mouth and head up his ass at the same time

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Yet you can offer nothing to contend against the data that I provided which shows it’s common to generalize and refer to a semi-auto as an automatic.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            Hanni quote: “What evidence do you have that a revolver was used?”

            No revolver was mentioned by anyone.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Exactly, so it was most likely an automatic pistol used, most likely semi, not full auto.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            But an “automatic pistol” is not an “automatic weapon”. Again, your ignorance, inability to learn, willingness to obfuscate the truth, and inability to admit when you are wrong would fill volumes.

            Would you care to regale us with yet another round of ‘everyone knows that “camp” is short for “campaign”?’ Please feel free to rewrite history (as you typically do) to make it sound as if you are not a complete and utter moron, because we always appreciate the works of fiction you produce, Tiny Sociopath.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Poofy Says:

            “But an “automatic pistol” is not an “automatic weapon”.

            So in your mind a pistol is not a weapon???? Huhh???

          • two_amber_lamps

            “What you (Tranni-tized) have just said….”

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Tranni: It’s taken you five years and you still haven’t realized your folly in thinking that “camp” was short for “campaign”. I explained the difference to you, in their context. It doesn’t surprise me that someone as mind numbingly stupid as you cannot comprehend the nuance.

            A pistol is a weapon, but a semi automatic pistol is not an “automatic weapon”. You can refer to a semiautomatic weapon as an automatic, but not as an “automatic weapon”. I have tried to explain to the syphilitic sponge you call your mind, that the term “automatic weapon” has a very specific meaning. One you either cannot comprehend out of sheer stupidity or your refusal to admit, once again, that you were wrong. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Or not. You are certainly fun to mock, Tiny Sociopath.

            Go put your magic necklace on and go hang out by the kiddie pool and hit on any of the children whose mothers haven’t gotten a restraining order against you yet. It will take your mind off things.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Poofy, which of the automatics listed in this website are not weapons?

            http://www.gunsinternational.com/Ruger-Automatic-Pistols.cfm?cat_id=95

          • two_amber_lamps

            Chrissakes Tranny…. we JUST discussed the difference between AUTO-LOADING firearms and AUTOMATIC (fire) firearms, yet you STILL conflate the classifications/definitions?

            Painfully…. PAINFULLY…. stupid you are. And apparently with the attention span/recall ability of a fruit fly.

            But we shouldn’t be surprised, you never did quite wrap your “Higgs Boson-sized” ganglion around the whole “clip vs. magazine” concept….

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Irrelevant to the question at hand. Much like you, Tranni.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So of those automatics listed, none of them are weapons, according to you?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            You should give your Mind Read Fail act a rest. You never could get anything right.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Man, this is sorta like resembling a dog getting whipped with a divining rod or something… the poor dumb b$%#rd getting smacked at every turn, A 63-car pile-up in slow motion with wee willie getting bounced around like a pin-ball. How much longer can the lil fella’ keep getting his bell rung before he wriggles off into his hole? How much more abuse can his frail self-esteem take?

            Tune in 10 minutes from now when Sir Tranny says…..

            DEEEERRRRRRP!

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            He should take that act on the road. He would get all the attention he craves.

        • two_amber_lamps

          Dear Tranny…

          THIS is an automatic pistol.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qau86Z0-BwI

          This was not used.

          DERP.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Facts don’t disappear just because you ignore them!

            Automatic pistol may refer to:

            Machine pistol, a handgun-style, magazine-fed and self-loading firearm, capable of fully automatic or burst fire, and chambered for pistol cartridges

            Semi-automatic pistol, a type of self-loading handgun that can be fired in semi-automatic mode, firing one cartridge for each pull of the trigger.

          • PK

            Maybe an online dictionary has that for a definition, but the law defines an “automatic weapon” as fully automatic. That’s why they edited the clip, because it was a semi-automatic weapon. She was wrong.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So you prefer your definition. There are millions and millions of Americans who knew what she meant, and of course there is a difference between a semi auto and a revolver. Don’t you agree?

            I think Americans are tired of people having the ability to fire multiple rounds with great ease, into a crowd of people.

            If you want to dismiss that fact, that’s on your conscious.

          • two_amber_lamps

            No dillwad… there are millions and millions of Americans that like yourself are just as hopelessly inured by their own rampant stupidity they can’t even fathom the depths of their own feeble-mindedness.

            Your stupidity is painful.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            Not painful for hannikins. If stupidity were painful for him he would have to be gorked.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Hmmmm…. you know though if he WERE drugged up out of his mind it would better explain his rampant idiocy, that glassy-eyed vacant stare, etc.

            Though stupid certain is a lot more fun to pummel him with!

          • LisaS

            When will you be surrendering your semi automatic weapons with their high capacity magazines? Or, are you still planning to kill as many people as you can before you kill yourself?

          • slackwarerobert

            When obama and the other crooks with badges turn in their REAL automatic weapons. Or have you already forgotten the cops shooting the paperboys in commifornia that won’t face charges for it.

          • PK

            Yeah that was crazy. Those paperboys were women and they shot up another vehicle with a white guy in it and shot at a dude surfing. And these guys will be in charge of taking people’s semi-autos if their assault weapons ban passes? If one man with a piss poor strategy can cripple them, they’ll have their hands full with the combat veterans out there.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Pssst! In tranny-kin’s case those would be “high cap-acity!”

            http://atomictoasters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/cap-gun-2.jpg

            pew, pew, pewpew!

          • PK

            Most modern revolvers are semi-automatic(double action) so i’m not sure what you’re talking about. There are other differences, but they both fire a metal projectile at high velocities, so what’s really the difference? I don’t know many people that don’t have some kind of semi-automatic weapon and mountains of other guns and ammo, and how many shootings do we have here in North Dakota? We all have easy access to diesel fuel and fertilizer too, and how many bombings have there been here? I haven’t shot anyone with my semi-automatics so nothing’s on my conscience. Maybe the dumbed down hordes of people who drink the tap water and watch TV all day don’t like the 2nd Amendment, but i think you’re in a losing battle. Are you willing to die to take our rights away from us? Most gun owners are willing to die defending their property and the Constitution, so come and take ‘em.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vcr5-QvMdY

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            There’s no doubt that you are unsure of the facts that I am talking about. A semi-automatic pistol is widely referred to as an automatic. Revolvers are never referred to as automatic, or even semi auto:

            Revolvers have been largely replaced by semi-automatic pistols in military and law enforcement applications. Their lower ammunition capacities and relatively longer reload times compared to autoloading pistols are the main reasons for the switchover, which occurred over the first half of the 20th century for military applications, and in the 1980s and 1990s for police forces. Additionally, the flat profile of semi-automatics make them more suitable for concealed carry. Revolvers still remain popular in the role of back-up and off-duty guns among American law enforcement officers and security guards. Also, revolvers are still common in the American private sector as defensive and sporting/hunting firearms. Famous police and military revolvers include the Webley, the Colt Single Action Army, the Smith & Wesson Model 29, the Smith & Wesson Model 10, the Smith & Wesson 1917 and the Nagant M1895.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolver

          • PK

            A double action revolver is a semi-automatic weapon. It’s not a semi-automatic, auto-ejecting, auto-loading weapon with a detachable magazine, but it is technically semi-automatic. One trigger pull=one discharge. You can reload one just as fast as a sidearm with a magazine. They make devices for it. As far as the increased bullet capacity, for a large cartridge like .a 45 ACP cal, it’s only about 2-3 rounds more for an auto-loader. Many revolvers accept more powerful cartridges than any auto-loading weapon. So like i said, what’s really the difference?

          • PK

            I’m not going off of wikipedia for my knowledge of firearms. I actually have dozens of all different types and know how to take them all apart, thus how they work. Maybe go out and buy yourself some, take some safety courses and actually learn about guns. Then maybe you won’t make an fool out of yourself.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Most of what Hanni “knows”, he Googled from wiki. That’s why his “facts” are always so reliable! /sarc

          • PK

            That seems to be the case. It’s normal for people who don’t have a clue about something to be the biggest fear mongers. It’s clear that this gun control push isn’t about reducing crime, since there’s no mention of handguns in the new federal ban. Handguns are used in most of the gun crime, because most of the gun crime is committed by gang bangers in disarmed cities and it’s easy to conceal a sidearm so it’s their weapon of choice. They want our battle-rifles and high capacity magazines because they’re necessary to effectively resist a modern military’s fire-teams at closer ranges. Handguns are really just a backup weapon so they’re not too concerned about those right now. Once there are no semi-auto rifles and high-cap mags, the rest of the guns will be much easier to seize.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hanni’s a knee jerk liberal. He will argue either side or both sides of the same argument at different times if he feels it casts his liberal fellow travelers in a better light. Facts are irrelevant to him, much as he is to adult conversation.

          • slackwarerobert

            +1. I have a great design for an automatic revolver that will shoot hundreds of rounds a minute easy. Just waiting for them to repeal the assault weapons ban so I can make it. Unfortunately the government calls them chain guns and they are banned.

          • PK

            I’m surprised they haven’t banned those bump-fire stocks and crank machines that simulate full-auto fire.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Trust me, the ATF looked at banning bumpfire but even in their leftist-steeped regulatory-crazed stupor they couldn’t come up with a plausible enough justification to do it. You don’t need a stock to bump-fire, it can be done with simple body kinetics and the inertia of the firearm.

          • PK

            Yeah but it’s way easier and aim-able with the stocks. And those crank machines that use two guns and alternate between the two. There’s probably some with 3 or 4 guns. Who needs a mini-gun?

          • PK

            Who needs a mini-gun when you can have one of those, i should say for clarity.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Never really paid that much attention to the crank ones, the only one that comes to mind is the Ruger 10/22 model, which only shoots .22LR’s (not that I wanna get shot by one mind you!). I’d say the thing’s too cumbersome to use for much more than back-yard plinking but that’s just me.

            Like I said, I think if the BATFE had a legal leg to stand on the bump/slide-fire stocks would be illegal. But since there’s no mod to the trigger mechanism other than a goofy stock and a trigger finger rest, they couldn’t justify it to a judge. I saw a test with em and they are considerably less accurate than an actual fixed stock/full auto model. Also the cyclic rate is considerably less than the full auto version since the whole gun cycles rather than just the bolt.

          • slackwarerobert

            I do! Mine has 6 around a center shot with the armor peircing rounds. It fills the gap between the 50 cal sniper and the biden favorite 12 gauge nicely. And after 5 minutes the bullets you take out of the criminals won’t match any of the barrels.

          • PK

            I clarified the, “Who needs a mini-gun?” comment. It got pushed down. But yeah, everyone should have two of them.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            When I was a lad, I used to read novels about the Shadow, who supposedly carried two automatic revolvers. I thought it to be a mere publisher’s mistake, until I learned that, although quite rare, there actually were such things as automatic revolvers. I only mention that here on the outside chance that Hanni reads this comment, and given his limited mental capability and knowledge of firearms, his head will ‘splode.

          • slackwarerobert

            People refer to revolvers as pistols all the time. Maybe you don’t get out much. Heck one of my colleges refused to admit motorcycles were vehicles till I threatened to subpena the head of the DMV for my trial. They wouldn’t even acknowledge it when I showed them the registration. But the subpena did the trick.

          • slackwarerobert

            Well please enlighten us? A revolver fires one round when you pull the trigger, and reloads for the next trigger pull. A semi automatic fires one round when you pull the trigger and reloads to fire again if you pull the trigger. Only difference is a semi will eject the brass out of the gun so you have to pick it up after firing it.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So you, a supposed gun enthusiast, consider a revolver to be classified as a semi automatic weapon?

          • slackwarerobert

            No revolvers are classified as a class I weapon, just like rifles, pistols, gatling guns and any other modern single shot weapon. You need to brush up on your terms.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            Hannikins argues like a woman who is also stupid.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Do you mean “THE woman who is also stupid?”

            Well, that can only mean one “girl.” Speaking of her, she’s suspiciously absent from this conversation?

            Calling Dr. Stupid! Calling Dr. Stupid! Come in Ms.SuzyBeeler! Come grace us with your stupefying intellectual “insight” on this topic!

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            They’re so much alike they could be a psychological study in themselves. They illustrate to perfection the notion that inside all men there’s a peevish, argumentative inferior woman, and inside all women is an aggressively opinionated inferior man. Usually this phenomenon only appears under certain circumstances, but for hanni & SB these inferior figures have devoured what little individuality they have and replaced it with caricatures. Whatever individuality they might have had is pretty much extinguished which makes coherent thought impossible. This condition keeps them arguing like low-life drunks.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Well said sir!

          • two_amber_lamps

            Oh God no… don’t encourage him.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Machine pistol, a handgun-style, magazine-fed and self-loading firearm,
            capable of fully automatic or burst fire, and chambered for pistol
            cartridges

            Then by your own “cut and paste” definition for the above mentioned weapon YOU FAIL because the Glock 35 Pistol pictured above is NOT a select fire weapon. There is no “burst”/ “automatic”/”semi-auto” selector switch. The trigger has been modified for fully automatic fire and will only discontinue firing if the trigger is released OR the magazine is exhausted.

            All NFA Rules apply.

            Do you know what that means lil kahuna?

            Chrissakes you’re special…

            Please stop conflating the specifications of the loading mechanism (which in this case is a recoil operated autoloader) with the trigger/firing mechanism (which in this case is full auto). You’re just making yourself look like a moron…

            Oh, wait…. you’ve done that since the first time I had the misfortune of reading one of your mindless drivel-infused posts.

            http://mariopiperni.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/i-see-stupid-people.jpg

          • awfulorv

            Don’t know how they’ve done this, but you may be interested. The Netflix people have a special offer this month. If a gun owner will peer into the barrel of his weapon, revolver, or pistol, makes no difference, while inserting his thumb into that slot used to steady the film, they’ll be shown a miniaturized version of the movie “Che”.

          • slackwarerobert

            I don’t use the slot till after the movie if the wife got worked up watching it. What movie did you watch that needed to steady her before the film was over? I’ll add it to my que.

          • TimmyG

            “Facts don’t disappear just because you ignore them!”

            Like Solyndra, Fast/Furious and the high tech drone that obama gave to Iran.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            That’s a machine pistol, automatic pistol.

            I was referring to a semi-automatic pistol, which is still an automatic, just not a machine pistol.

          • two_amber_lamps

            No dip-$%it… that is a Glock 35 semi-automatic pistol modified with a full-auto trigger.

            You conflate definitions of the loading mechanism and the firing mechanism because you like your leftist handlers have absolutely no idea what you’re babbling about.

            But here you go… A lil shovel fer a lil feller!

            Keep digging your own hole… I know you will!

            http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/07/30/0730-bn-korea-coach-kwang-sok-choe-shovel-getty-credit.jpg

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So Guns International is a leftist organization who stupidly calls semi auto’s, automatics?

            http://www.gunsinternational.com/Ruger-Automatic-Pistols.cfm?cat_id=95

          • slackwarerobert

            Maybe they are trying to boost sales to the idiots out there. Just like the automatic transmissions in cars you can’t have a clutch pedal with one because then it is a semi-automatic.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Guns International assumes their buyers (even the rank amateur ones) know the difference between an AUTO-LOADER and an NFA controlled automatic weapons (aka “machine guns”). Apparently this assumption does not suffice for nincompoops like Mmmmm, Mmmmmm, MMMMMMM! Mooochelle Mc’Bamster and Trannitized, the soi-desant SAB Firearms Expert…. My God… if you’d just keep your mouth shut we’d have to guess how stupid you were, but you just can’t help yourself. You open your mouth and make it abundantly clear to anyone with a computer and an internet connection how startlingly asinine you are.

            Thanks for the laughs Tiny, the guys at the office were rolling on the floor when I read your nonsense to them!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So Guns international can assume that people know what they mean when they refer to a pistol as an automatic, but Michelle can’t? Is that how your mind works? Would that double standards of yours have anything to do with her being black, by chance?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            So, you’re losing the argument based on firearms knowledge so you are reduce to mindless race baiting, Tiny Sociopath? Figures.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Since when is asking a question race baiting? He has a double standard about who can refer to a pistol as an automatic and who can’t, race is an obvious reason for this double standard of his.

          • two_amber_lamps
          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Asking a question about race when race has not been a part of the discussion? That’s race baiting, you witless tool.

            I don’t have any double standards, you race baiting POS. I explained to you the difference between a semi automatic and an automatic and when the terms can be accurately used by sane adults. One standard. Call us when you can accurately count as high as “one”. Until then, toddle off to the kiddie pool, little Kahuna and let the adults talk.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Who was talking about your double standards? Those were proven long ago. And you clearly had no need to explain a difference between an automatic and a semi-auto, that was never a question.

            Rob screwed up, the gun used can be termed an automatic.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hanni Boo Boo, don’t you ever get tired of getting everything wrong?

          • guest

            smallwillie doesn’t care if he’s wrong, as long as someone is paying attention to him.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Lol!! Back for another beatdown? I shall happily oblige!

            White, Black, Yellow, Red… stupid is stupid, be it Tranny-twit or that irascible wife of Comrade Zero. I mock your pathetic attempt to convolute this discussion of your absolute ignorance of firearms into some kind of wretched race bait mewling… it is as Mr. Proof so often remarks “duly noted.”

            A reputable retailer like Guns International can assume people know what they mean when they refer to an automatic pistol since we can also assume they have a knowledgeable staff who can correct the idiot-generalizations made by the likes of “amateur-hour Trannity” and set them straight via email or telephonically.

            However since your only resource is the “Great Google/Wiki” there IS no one to save you from falling on your own sword (dull as it is).

            Did I mention how painfully stupid thou art?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Sword? Spork, maybe…

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So the answer is “yes”, you do have a different standard for blacks.

            A reputable retailer like Guns International can assume people know what they mean when they refer to an automatic pistol..

            Like it or not, her generalization has been made by gun aficionados.

          • two_amber_lamps

            LOL!! Just because you invent a racial attack doesn’t make it so Tiny Brained Wiper of other people’s bottoms!

            So the answer is “TrannyTWIT is a douche.”

            Thank you, come again!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            No, you clearly demonstrated you have a double standard for Michelle vs Gun International. It’s obvious the cause of your double standard is because she is black.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Your conclusion is so stupid I shall correct you on it. I lump YOU and Zero’s wife in the same category because you are both categorically and tragically stupid liberals….

            Stupid and liberal… goes together like peas and carrots!

            Any other stupid questions?

            (PS, you forgot to “like” your own comments as you typically do.)

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Since when is your racial bigotry for Michelle an indication that you attacked her?

          • two_amber_lamps

            LOL! The Tranny is Stupid, therefore it is.

            BTW, did you ever get that TAX LIEN issue resolved?

            http://pumabydesign001.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/lunatic-progressives-losing-debate-use-race-card.jpg

          • LisaS

            Any bias against the queen moocher is based on her anti American, anti semitic, godless racist views.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Which part of her statement is anti-God, anti-semetic or racist? And why do you get to play the race-card but demand you aren’t called out on your racism?

          • LisaS

            Thanks for confirming she’s anti American. Since you always play the race card, by your own comment, you’ve convicted yourself of being a racist.

            Thanks, you moron.

          • slackwarerobert

            You hate Automatics, this tells me you have a bias against a superior product. You believe they are better than revolvers, so you are racist against well made equipment.

          • guest

            So, you acknowledge you’re an anti American racist.

          • PK

            When a picture of the weapon is shown with the description “automatic pistol”, someone can see it’s not a fully automatic pistol, but rather an auto-loading pistol. Therefore you can’t compare that with the Obama situation because there was no other information given.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            There are multiple types of automatic weapons (full auto, semi-auto). You aren’t understanding the argument, but the gun dealers know this, so does the dictionary.

          • PK

            Ok. Your point is noted. I think we’ve all understood what you’re saying but you won’t accept what anyone else is saying. One can refer to an auto-loading weapon as an “automatic”, but one can’t refer to the trigger mechanism as an “automatic” if it’s semi-automatic. Automatic=continued fire/trigger pull. Semi-automatic=one shot/trigger pull. That’s why it’s called “semi”-auto. In common knowledge a semi-automatic isn’t called an automatic. So in context of what Obama said, “automatic weapon he didn’t need”, that implies a reference to the trigger group, since semi-autos aren’t illegal and have been around for over 100 years and many people have found the need for one. Do you understand that argument?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I understand that some people make the distinction and that the distinction is known. All i am saying is that it’s not ignorant to refer to a semi-auto as an automatic, especially if it’s done by gun experts.

            I argue against the notion that everyone needs a semi auto pistol. Law enforcement and military should have them, people can easily defend themselves and their homes with revolvers and shotguns.

          • PK

            That’s an interesting statement that government servants can have them, but civilians can’t. We live in America. A government created by the people, for the people and of the people. Government by consent, not force. I actually was just talking to a 14 year combat veteran, Marine Corp, this morning. And i would say 60% of our hour conversation was about the guns we own, or want. He never once said, “i don’t think you should have that gun, because that’s what i carried in Afghanistan and you have no need for it.” Since he’s out of the service now, should he be able to have them then? The lies and anti-gun propaganda you’re buying is about disarmament of the American people. I suppose Hitler or Lenin didn’t take the guns of the groups he was targeting right? That’s what it’s all about and i don’t think you realize the can of worms that people like you are opening up. You might want to think about it before you start a war with real patriots like him, because if there’s an attempt to take any guns, that’s what will happen. Instead of obsessing over our guns, focus on the real problems, like government not enforcing the thousands of gun laws we already have and them releasing violent criminals over and over. It’s a joke and if you don’t get that, so are you.

          • JoeMN

            And this time next year, Hannitized will be making the case to ban revolvers and pump action shotguns, on the grounds that the “experts” now consider them automatic.
            Kitchen knives and rape whistles should be adequate to defend themselves and their homes
            (Meanwhile leftists in the UK target kitchen knives)

            It’s called incremental ism .

          • PK

            DHS recommends scissors. It’ll be just like Australia, where they’re now coming after the bolt and lever actions. They’ll never stop until they have all of them.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Yes it is…. leftists take the short term gains today, wait for the next crisis to justify the next attack on your Constitutional rights.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I think it’s pure fantasy for anyone to believe they can defend themselves from the American military might with Semi-automatic and fully automatic weapons, and defend their 2nd amendment rights based on that bogus notion.

          • slackwarerobert

            Then you are doomed. You don’t stand toe to toe with a tank with a 22. We aren’t the french, or chinese. You go around the tank and shoot the commander. We don’t have a constitutional right to defeat or overthrow the military. But that might be a good one for the next amendment. Didn’t you pay attention to the DC sniper? My enemy is in washington DC, I have no problem with the military unless they get in the way of my objectives. At most you need to take out a squad following illegal orders. I am on american soil, they can not engage me legally.

          • PK

            Really? The Taliban has held their own against, first the Russians, and then the US for over a decade now. They don’t have anything special. It’s called gorilla warfare. Nothing can defeat it. Do you really think that the US military would even go along with gun confiscation? I don’t. Over half of them would defect instantly and take whatever equipment they can get and join the People. What kind of argument are you making? We should just hand all our guns in because the government already has a monopoly of power due to high-tech weapons and resistance if futile? Do you want the US military to march out tomorrow and take our guns for your protection? The biggest military in the world is the American people. We have more guns and ammo than all the militaries of the world combined. There are tens of millions willing to fight right now, possibly over a hundred million. Do you realize there are thousands of “gun clubs” out there that have armored vehicles with howitzers and machine cannons? Stuff like that. We have all the equipment we need to fight off ANY modern military pal. I’ve been respectful to you this hole time, but i’m sorry. You really are an anti-American piece of trash. Please move to China or North Korea where they’ve taken all the guns.

          • slackwarerobert

            We have one other thing the afghans don’t. Our enemy is in one little less then 10 mile square area. That is easily accessed from ground, air, and water. It has no high ground by law, so you have the high ground advantage as well. It has all those waco peaceful countries embassies down the street. Blow a few of them up and who will take the heat do you think?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            What’s bogus is the notion that you think everyone will be cowering in their rooms, wetting their “boardies”, like you, when liberty is threatened, kissing up to their new benevolent overlords.

            There is strength in unity. Real Americans are unified by their love of freedom. I don’t expect you to be able to understand that, Wankertized.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            OMG. Were you humming the national anthem in your mind when you wrote that?

            You’re such a phony patriot wannabe.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            No one is surprised that the concept of liberty or freedom is foreign to your mind set, TinyPoputchik. And as always, your projection is duly noted.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            What does liberty have to do you stupidly believing you can defeat the American army with a semi-auto?

          • PK

            You do realize that semi-auto fire is what most people in the military keep their weapon on most of the time right? I don’t quite understand how you think that the military can defeat the people who outnumber them 50-1. Please explain. What would they do, nuke us? Let a bio-weapon go? Is that a government you would side with?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            The Iraqi’s outnumbered us too. I don’t think you have any intellectual honesty. Semi Auto’s don’t stop tanks or aircraft or artillery of any kind. Give it up.

          • PK

            Yeah well all those things need to be serviced at some point there genius. Helicopters need to land, they can’t fly forever. Tanks need fuel to run and more ammo from time to time. Do you have any concept of what war is? I don’t think you have a clue. It’s funny how you bring up the Iraq war. We far outnumbered their military since the start of the war. We still have contractors(mercenaries) there and it’s far from stable. Iraq and Afghanistan have been a handful and you think America will be a cakewalk? You’re delusional. The sad thing is, you probably want it to happen. You hate the fact we have guns.

          • di_da_is_alpha

            Iraq’s terrain makes a good battlefield for an organized military. Using your logic (or lack thereof), Afghanistan should have been a walk in the park. And do you really think a tank commander from Texas would be willing to shell people in Houston? Or do you think the military will go back to Civil War era organization and use the 27th Massachusetts to invade Idaho?

          • PK

            They used National Guard members from other states to confiscate guns during Hurricane Katrina, so that’s exactly what they’ll try. Except most will stand down because Katrina woke them up, so they’ll have to draft all the hordes of people on welfare and tell them the gun owners have their checks.

          • slackwarerobert

            Watch the “bipartisan” press conference. Turns out 13,000 FUGITIVES were stopped from buying a gun with the background check. And no one arrested. Already supposed to be in jail, tell the feds they are standing in front of you and they just say no don’t sell them a gun. This is the bunch that will enforce ther new laws. Like that 85 year old lady with dimentia who voted twice, they are going after her bigtime, yet holders people brag on TV they voted 6 times and nothing.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            No one “needs” a surfboard either, Tiny Twit. Odds are, you don’t “need” a 4×4 either. Last time I looked, it wasn’t called the “Bill of Needs”, but the Bill of Rights. It is not up to snot nosed hoplophobes like you to determine what I or anyone else “needs”.

            You argue against the notion of “freedom”, Tiny Sociopath, as do your fellow travelers.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Hanni, it’s bad enough that you are a lying, POS race-baiter, but your attempt to make anyone believe that you are even tangentially aware of firearms, much less have any technical expertise with them is laughable.

            Better you should make yourself SA’s authority on spending way too much for a knock off Prada belt buckle. That’s believable!

          • guest

            Thanks for jumping in and demonstrating that the level of your stupidity is based on the level of your racism, smallwillie.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            You referred to a non-existent revolver.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “which is still an automatic”

            I think I see your confusion. (Well, everyone sees your confusion! I might see the source of it!) Semi automatic weapons are sometimes referred to as “automatics”, in that they are “autoloaders”. Hence, knowledgeable people can refer to a particular weapon as, say, a “.45 automatic”, who would never call it an “automatic weapon”. The words “automatic weapon”, when taken together, have a specific meaning, your juvenile, ignorant and uninformed attempts to blur the differences notwithstanding.

            Michelle ignorantly used the term “automatic weapon”. She was therefore, incorrect.

            Don’t feel too badly, Tiny Midget Dwarf! I probably made the same kind of mistake back when I was five or six. Hopefully you can educate yourself before you reach puberty.

          • two_amber_lamps

            OMG!!! My 1911 is an “automatic” and I don’t have a tax stamp for it?? The ATF Revenuers are going to come for me!! Hide me, hide me!!

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Other than for the “snort Diet Coke out your nose, laugh out loud when you hear how little he knows” quality about it, I can’t imagine why anyone would want to debate the Tiki Troll on firearms.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Maybe it’s just a perverse enjoyment in rubbing the little chihuahua’s face in the mess that is his ignorance.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            He does seem to take some perverse pleasure from being proven wrong constantly. Maybe it has to do with his feelings of inadequacy? He did once admit proudly on this forum to wearing 6mm rubbers.

            Hell, mine are that long before I unwrap them!

          • two_amber_lamps

            I think his mom told him 6mm were the “magnums.”

            Or should I say magnumbs in Wee Wee Willie Bonilla’s case?

          • slackwarerobert

            Just think of the panic when the left finds out you carry the 1911 loaded, cocked, and safety off. 100 years and they have yet to improve the design, now that tells you it is perfect.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Oh they’ll let you do that… as long as there’s no magazine within a 1/4 mile…. But if you live in Milwaukee, WI you’d better not carry in plain view unless you’d like to be taken down at gunpoint and your weapon confiscated. They’ll sort the other stuff (like your rights) later.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Backpedaling like the Tour De France played in reverse? Oh drat… too late! You piddled on your brand new boardies…. no worries, now they just match the rest of your p!##-stained wardrobe!

            BRHahahahahhaHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahAHAHAHAaaa!

        • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

          This is a revolver. Pay attention.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcDNE75k2Ug

        • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

          Hey, Poseur! Stick to stuff you know about, like getting damp yellow stains out of your “boardies”! A semi automatic pistol is not an “automatic nonetheless”. Your ignorance of firearms would fill volumes, Poseur Noob. Stick to stuff you know, like surfing. And chlamydia meds.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Facts don’t disappear just because you ignore them!

            Automatic pistol may refer to:

            Machine pistol, a handgun-style, magazine-fed and self-loading firearm, capable of fully automatic or burst fire, and chambered for pistol cartridges

            Semi-automatic pistol, a type of self-loading handgun that can be fired in semi-automatic mode, firing one cartridge for each pull of the trigger.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “Facts don’t disappear just because you ignore them!” Neither do ignorant trolls in damp, yellow stained “boardies” apparently.

            You shouldn’t have to worry any about facts disappearing, Tiny Sociopath, since you never had any to begin with.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I just provided examples of gun forums that commonly call semi-automatic pistols, “automatic pistols”. Why? Because they are auto, either semi, or full.

          • slackwarerobert

            No, they are both pistols, only one is an automatic.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            And because you are a two bit poseur, you haven’t a clue, in their context, why they are called what they are.

            Give it up tiny troll! “Facts don’t disappear just because you ignore them!”

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So in your mind this gun forum is full of poseurs? Why not just admit you aren’t literate in firearms?

            Ruger Automatic Pistols For Sale

            http://www.gunsinternational.com/Ruger-Automatic-Pistols.cfm?cat_id=95

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            Just one tiny poseur here, Tiny Sociopath. That would be you.

            “Why not just admit you aren’t literate in firearms?”

            “Literate”? Of all the people I know who are proficient with firearms, I’ve yet to hear one of them described as “literate” in firearms. It sounds like a description that someone totally unfamiliar with the field might say. In other words… a poseur.

            Of course, that fact that you are at most semi-literate in English makes it all the more understandable. The fact that you can walk under closed doors without ducking your head, that just makes you pathetic.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            A fact doesn’t disappear merely because you ignore it, Poof. What do you have to say about the semi-autos being called automatic pistols on a gun forum?

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            I already said it. I gave you a definition and an explanation that you do not appear to have the cognitive ability to comprehend, as to the use of the different terms in their context.

            Toddle off now, junior, and let the adults talk. And if you want to be a poseur, talk about something you know more about…but in your case, I’m not quite sure what that would be!

    • guest

      Thanks for jumping in and proving what a moron you are. Or, are you just trying to get attention, any attention at all, smallwillie?
      Moochelle the anti American twat, like most dem/lib/communists just lie or just continue to prove their ignorance and stupidity.

  • borborygmi
  • $8194357

    And Michelle?

    Hows that middle east “Fast and Furous” working out with Barry
    and the UN’s arab spring thing they had going?
    In the name of “democracy” right….
    Muslim Brotherhood dhimmis in da house.

    20,000 Heat-Seeking Missiles Reportedly Feared Missing From Libyan Warehouse

    Posted on September 28, 2011 by Conservative Byte

    A recent secret White House meeting revealed that an estimated 20,000 portable, heat-seeking missiles appear to have vanished from an Army warehouse in Libya, ABCNews.com reported.

    The new revelations stoke ongoing fears that such weapons, which are light, relatively easy to use and have the capacity to take down a commercial airplane, could end up in the wrong hands as the Libyan war that ousted Muammar Qaddafi winds down.

    “Matching up a terrorist with a shoulder-fired missile, that’s our worst nightmare,” Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., told ABCNews.com.

    Earlier this month, a senior U.S. official told the Associated Press that weapon proliferation was the “key concern” for the U.S. as Libya emerges from six months of civil war. To be sure, Libya has been struggling to secure many weapon caches.

    Continue Reading on
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  • two_amber_lamps

    Typical leftist talking point… goes back to Comrade Feinstein and her idiotic “assault weapons” (scary!) definition. An true assault weapon is an AUTOMATIC weapon, not one with “TERRIFYING” cosmetic features like pistol grips, bayonet lugs, and adjustable stocks.

    A dullard like Comrade Mooo-chelle conflates automatic with probably every weapon demonization to instill in the proletariat masses that all EVIL guns are AUTOMATICS.

    Veracity is inconsequential.

    • slackwarerobert

      Threaded barrel, don’t forget the evil threaded barrel. How having threads on the front of the berrel is evil but having them on the other end of the barrel is not is beyond me. Of course that is the same logic about the stock also. plastic bad, wood good. Where are the enviro terrorists, wood stocks come from their beloved trees?

      • two_amber_lamps

        Oh yeah! Damn it… my mistake. You know those leftists really hate those birdcage flash suppressors that…. (marginally) suppress the flash.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com Goon

    Truth doesn’t matter to a Liberal Democrat, all they want to do is limit your freedom and rights and take stuff from you.

  • slackwarerobert

    How does she know the thug didn’t need an automatic weapon? Did she ask him? Did he tell the cops that when he was arrested? How can she tell if he needed something? She isn’t living in the well documented war zone of chicago, what you need to be safe is up to the non combatants forced to live under rom dead fish leadership.

  • fatass

    i love the new Midwest Media politics forum at http://www.yourmidwestmedia.net/viewforum.php?f=35

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