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Wednesday, November 29, 2006

A Proxy War, Not A Civil War

This editorial in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review states more eloquently a point I was trying to make yesterday:

The Bush administration disputes the “civil war” moniker. And it’s not a semantic argument. Just Tuesday, The New York Times reported that “the Iranian-backed group Hezbollah had been training members of the Mahdi Army, the Iraqi Shiite militias led by Moktada al-Sadr.” It’s not the only outside influence.

Such a proxy war is not a civil war. Neither is it unreasonable or naive to believe that sans those proxies, Iraq might not be the hellhole it now is.

The editorial concludes that we should still withdraw and leave Iraq to sort the matter out, but I disagree with that.  The war in Iraq is a proxy war, as opposed to a civil war, but we must remember that we are one of the proxies.  The rogue, terror-sponsoring states like Iran and Syria are the other proxies, as well as international terror groups like al Qaeda and Hezbollah, and unless we’d like to hand those groups and nations a victory in this proxy war we must remain in Iraq to complete the mission.

I posted earlier about a government report which indicates that international Islamic extremists and raising possibly as much as $200 million/year to fight against the Iraqi government and U.S. forces in Iraq.  If that doesn’t make Iraq a front in the war on terror I don’t know what does, nor do I see the wisdom in abandoning Iraqis by themselves to deal with the international terror groups and rogue states that would see their representative government toppled.

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It may be getting some outside help to foment itself, but it’s a civil war nonetheless. ..among other thing.

p.s. Iran also built up (trained and supplied) the Hezs during Lebanon’s full blown civil war, back in the Reagen years.

aNONOMISLY on November 29, 2006 at 06:16 pm

aNON: Many have revealed the true situation in Iraq over the last month or so, myself among them.  Rob is telling it like it is: Iraq is a proxy battlefield for Iran to fight us.  A civil war would require one of the factions to secede from the govt, and that ain’t happening.  Get off the MSM KoolAid and look at the facts.


"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

robert108 on November 29, 2006 at 06:22 pm

This isn’t civil war. It’s gang warfare on a big scale that’s led by the thuggish mullahs one some of the sides, and al-quaeda on others.

I even found myself starting to call it a civil war. It’s not. That’s far too simplistic a label for it.


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Pilgrim on November 29, 2006 at 10:57 pm
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