A Little Uncommon Sense, Please

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Before we allow the government to start confiscating firearms, as Ed Schultz has stupidly suggested, and banning anything with a trigger and a firing pin, as many on the loony Left gleefully insists, I think we ought to take a serious look at the actual effectiveness of what is being proposed. Doing something in response to a tragedy that has already happened most often only compounds the tragedy. And doing violence to an integral part of the Constitution’s Bill of Rights is itself a dangerous precedent, no matter what the rationale.

Over at Red State, Thomas Crown notes that the Connecticut state gun control laws already in place were rated the 4th best in the nation by none other than The Brady Campaign!

Connecticut has strong gun laws that help combat the illegal gun market, prevent the sale of most guns without background checks and reduce risks to children, according to the Brady Campaign. In the organization’s 2009 state scorecards released for all 50 states, Connecticut earned 53 points out of a total of 100 and has the nation’s fourth strongest gun laws.

And according to Ron Pinciaro, President of CT Against Gun Violence,

Connecticut has done more than most states to combat illegal guns and has worked to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. In fact, Connecticut has a one-of-a-kind law that allows a judge to remove guns from people who have been determined to be a threat to themselves or others.

Finally, no state, including #1 rated California, received a higher rating for “keeping guns out of public places” such as schools. Which is why Adam Lanza could enter that school and start killing children with cold, undisturbed, impunity.

The actual gun(s) used, there’s been some question about this, were legally purchased and properly registered under Connecticut’s strict gun control laws. The gun(s)s were also stolen by Mr. Lanza and used to shoot and kill his own mother, before he went on his killing spree at the school – a school covered by Connecticut’s strict “gun free” law. And although California’s creaking Senator Di-Fi was quick to point to the “high capacity clips” in her PBS interview last evening, the shooter could have visited the very same tragic horror on the school and the children with .22 caliber revolver since there was no one at the “gun free” school armed and able to stop him. It would have taken him a bit longer to kill the same number of children, but the result would have been just as horrific.

Rather than using the horror of Newtown as an excuse for an unconstitutional prohibition of firearms, what we should contemplate instead is what actions could actually have worked to prevent this tragedy. Is there a law, beyond Connecticut’s already stringent gun control ordinances, that would have prevented Lanza from killing? The answer is, sadly, not really. Aside from jailing Adam Lanza, with no real proof, for what he may have been contemplating, there’s not much the state or the nation could have done to prevent the slaughter.

Those who would not allow this tragedy – this good crisis – to go to waste, should first demonstrate, conclusively, that what they propose in response will not only be constitutional but also effective. So far, they have not done so.

There is evil in the world. There always has been. It is folly to think we can protect ourselves, and our children, from it. As Ben Stein has written,

In this world, a killer devil can kill his mother and steal her guns to kill six year olds. That’s what some humans are, and I am not sure what laws will stop them.

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  • mikemc1970

    Facts, logic, and truth make no difference to the left. They will scream for total gun control no matter the situation. Not that they care about murdered children or the safety of our schools, they don’t. This is about, for them anyway, disarming the American populace so that they will be more vulnerable to the tyranny they wish to implement.

  • SigFan

    In the words of Deadfish Emmanuel – Never let a crisis go to waste. And the rush to do “something” by the knee-jerk left anti-gunners is just that. A shameless attempt to take a horrific tragedy and spin it into an emotion laden over reaction and preemption of Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Yes, we can find answers to preventing things like this from happening. Ensuring that the mentally unstable are receiving the treatment and even incarceration they need to keep them from being a danger to themselves and others. Making sure that schools have adequate – and preferably armed – security. But no matter what measures we put in place if a person bent on destroying other lives is determined enough he or she will find a way. As far as high-capacity magazines are concerned that’s a red herring. Any competent marksman with a revolver and a pocket full of speedloaders could wreak the same havoc in an unarmed and defenseless place and with nearly as much speed. What cannot be allowed to happen is for the overwrought left to succeed in taking away our rights. Because then we all are potential victims of criminals or a tyrannical government.

  • Random Passerby

    Which goes to show that since guns were essentially outlawed (‘scuse me…’well regulated’)
    the outlaw was the only one with a gun.
    No law would, could or DID stop him. Neither misdemeanor, nor felony (of which both classes were committed). HE DID NOT CARE ABOUT THE LEGAL PENALTIES. The only place the law was operationally effective was the refusal to sell him a weapon without a mandated waiting period. Had he been more patient, then even that law would have not been of use.
    Once again, this is about control. Nothing less.
    The only ones left to face the aftermath and the lunge for control are the living. of which none participated in the henious act driving the howls of the would-be controllers to ACT NOW!!!11!!

  • $8194357

    But all liberals and socialists think alike and just “know better”
    what is right for the “collective good”..Ask Whoopie…..She will tell ya.

    “Our task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when
    those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.”
    Sarah Brady, Chairman, Handgun Control Inc.
    Source: The National Educator, January 1994, Pg.3

    “History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjected peoples
    to carry arms have prepared their own fall.”
    Adolf Hitler, Edict of 18 March 1939

    “And we should — then every community in the country could then start doing
    major weapon sweeps and then destroying the weapons, not selling them.”
    Bill Clinton, President, sworn defender of the U.S. Constitution

    “I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re
    going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily —
    given the political realities — going to be very modest. Of course, it’s true that
    politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is
    solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the
    gun-control issue for a time. So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and
    then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though,
    we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal —
    total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time. My
    estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing
    number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all
    registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of *all* handguns
    and *all* handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed
    security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — totally
    illegal.”
    Pete Shields, Chairman, Handgun Control Inc.
    “A Reporter At Large:
    Handguns”, The New Yorker_, July 26, 1976, 57-58] (
    Note: Pete Shields was the founder of HCI and its first Chairman.)

    “When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical
    Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of
    individual freedom to Americans …
    And so a lot of people say there’s too much personal freedom.
    When personal freedom’s being abused, you have to move to limit it.
    That’s what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the
    public housing projects, about how we’re going to have weapon sweeps
    and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities.”
    President Bill Clinton,
    3-22-94, MTV’s “Enough is Enough”

    “You don’t have many suspects who are innocent of a crime. That’s
    contradictory. If a person is innocent of a crime, then he is not a suspect.”
    Edwin Meese III,
    Attorney General in the Reagan Administration

    “We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve
    the rights of ordinary Americans…”
    Bill Clinton, USA Today, 11 March 1993, pg. 2a

    “Gun Registration is not enough.”
    Attorney General Janet Reno, 10 Dec 1993

    “Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The
    prohibition of private firearms is the goal.”
    Attorney General Janet Reno

    “What good does it do to ban some guns. All guns should be banned.”
    Senator Howard Metzanbaum (D-OH)

    “This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation
    has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient,
    and the world will follow our lead into the future!”
    Adolph Hitler, 15 April 1935, in address to the Reichstag

  • Bat One

    What no one on the liberal Left seems to understand is that Connecticut already has some of the most stringent gun control laws in the country. And still the slaughter happened. So the question is this: If the current gun control regime didn’t work to save the children, what will? What proposal will save the next bunch of innocents from being slaughtered by a lunatic intent on taking his deranged rage out on society? What gun control proposal will stop the next Adam Lanza, or the next Jared Lochner?

  • $8194357

    Liberals don’t care much for logic and Truth..
    Messes with their ideologies to much..

    They live and die with radicle ideology religously…
    Its their lifes blood..Alinsky knew that…
    So did satan where Marx/Alinsky gleened that tid bit from..

    What’s “your ideology”?
    Vision statement, mission statement, loyalty oath, citizenship requirements?

    Mine are found in Biblical Truth thru Christ…
    All others are “false”.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/12/a-question-of-humanity-good-vs-evil-israel-vs-iran.html

    “Israeli leaders extend condolences to the American people” MFA (Ministry of Foreign Affairs) Our hearts are with the bereaved families of the victims, the mourning community in Newtown, Connecticut and the people of the United States of America.

    Letter from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to US President Barack Obama

    I was shocked and horrified by today’s savage massacre of innocent children and adults at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut.
    We in Israel have experienced such cruel acts of slaughter and we know the shock and agony they bring.
    I want to express my profound grief, and that of all the people in Israel, to the families that lost their loved ones.
    May you and the American people find the strength to overcome this unspeakable tragedy.
    With my deepest condolences,
    Benjamin Netanyahu,
    Prime Minister of Israel

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s message to the American people following the massacre at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut

    And this letter from President Shimon Peres to US President Barack Obama

    Dear President Obama,
    On behalf of the people of Israel, as friends and as parents, we stand with you today in contemplation and grief over the atrocious, incomprehensible massacre of 20 children and six adults – educators – at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
    No experience with death can be likened to that of a parents’ loss of their child. No crime is more heinous than the killing of a child.
    Our hearts are with the bereaved families of the victims, the mourning community in Newtown, Connecticut and the people of the United States of America. Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
    Shimon Peres President of the State of Israel

    And Iran’s take on the mass slaughter in Newton:

    Iran:
    Newtown massacre was Israeli conspiracy YNET

    Tehran news website quotes ‘expert’ alleging horrific Connecticut shooting that claimed lives of 20 children, six adults was Israeli scheme meant to exert revenge on US following ‘humiliation at UN’

    “The Newtown massacre was the result of an Israeli conspiracy”
    an Iranian news website proclaimed Tuesday.

    The United States is still reeling from the murderous rampage that left 20 children and six adults dead in Newtown, Connecticut, on Friday.
    Tehran – which on Sunday offered its condolences to the victims and their families – is now promoting an alternative explanation to the horrific event.
    Iran’s Press TV website quoted Michael Harris,
    former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP
    campaign finance chairman, as saying that
    “An Israeli death squad was involved in the Sandy Hook shooting.”

    End quote

    You see their is what they tell you…
    Then there is the Truth…

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