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Tuesday, March 07, 2006

8,000 US TROOPS DESERT DURING IRAQ WAR!

Yowza...

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Sounds awful, right? Except, wait a minute...

At least 8,000 members of the all-volunteer U.S. military have deserted since the Iraq war began, Pentagon records show, although the overall desertion rate has plunged since the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001. . . .

Desertion numbers have dropped since 9/11. The Army, Navy and Air Force reported 7,978 desertions in 2001, compared with 3,456 in 2005. The Marine Corps showed 1,603 Marines in desertion status in 2001. That had declined by 148 in 2005. . . .

Opposition to the war prompts a small fraction of desertions, says Army spokeswoman Maj. Elizabeth Robbins. "People always desert, and most do it because they don't adapt well to the military," she says. The vast majority of desertions happen inside the USA, Robbins says. There is only one known case of desertion in Iraq.

Most deserters return within months, without coercion. Commander Randy Lescault, spokesman for the Naval Personnel Command, says that between 2001 and 2005, 58% of Navy deserters walked back in.


Huh?

Let me get this straight...about 8,000 troops have deserted the military since the Iraq war began, yet since 9/11 the number of desertions from the Army, Navy and Air Force combined have dropped by nearly half? Which doesn't even get into the fact that apparently over half of those who desert end up coming back to fulfill their service obligations.

So what then is the basis of this statement in the article?

Some lawyers who represent deserters say the war in Iraq is driving more soldiers to question their service and that the Pentagon is cracking down on deserters.


No, it appears, from the numbers, as though the Iraq war is driving soldiers to remain in the military and fulfill their service obligations.

Just another confusing, misleading article for the drive-by media I guess. They can't even get stories about more of our troops serving honorably right.

Comments

Avatar for Steve L.

When I was an Army officer, we had people desert.  Typically, it was because the Army wasn’t what they thought it would be.  When we got ready to deploy to then-Desert-Shield, we had some soldiers whine about it, but everyone went with their units.

The lawyer’s statement is what this is all about.  They are prepping their defense for the courts-martial.  It doesn’t matter that desertions are down.  It only matters that they have a really good excuse.

Steve L. on March 7, 2006 at 11:29 am
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Steve,

   Glad to see another GI on here.  We had about a 98% show up rate for Gulf War in 1991.  That was the Guard overall.  I am not aware of a single desertion in our unit of over 1,000 since 9/11/01.  In fact we had people show up for duty and not even expecting pay!   This is another attempt by the liberal press to paint the military as a bad place.  Sure, there may be a few that were mis-led by a recruiter.  There even was one female Marine who said something like, "I didn’t think I would actually have to use my rifle"!

Chief RZ on March 7, 2006 at 12:24 pm
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Desertion is a constant in any military, the causes are as varied as the soldiers in that military. Very often desertion is tied to problems in personal life, wife/girlfriend trouble, problems occuring at home, alcohol/drug abuse. A troop may feel that CoC is not addressing issues which he feels very strongly about, perhaps friction between himself and other troops or superiors. Ideology rarely enters into the issue. Conscientious Objectors rarely desert, some do yes, most don’t. The very fact they stand and declare themselves C.O. shows they have higher morals than to just skip out. The desertion meme keeps popping up every couple of months, just like the enlistment numbers. Once the story gets vetted by the public it submerges again, just as this version will.

2Hotel9 on March 7, 2006 at 02:28 pm
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No one I served with ever deserted.  No one I served with ever even threatened to desert.

But then, The USA Today isn’t so much a newspaper as a colorful distraction at hotels.  (has ANYONE ever purchased a USA Today?) 

CV Rick on March 7, 2006 at 03:06 pm
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I have purchased USA Today, Rick...when I was staying at a hotel and wanted to be distracted.


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Rob on March 7, 2006 at 05:39 pm
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USAToday is NBCNews in print, with cutesy fluff crap added to bulk it out.

2Hotel9 on March 7, 2006 at 05:53 pm
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Doc, you must stay at classier places than I do.

2H9, sure its fluff...but it sure is pretty! 


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Rob on March 7, 2006 at 06:14 pm
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You miss the point

USA TODAY is not and never has been a real newspaper.

Thank God For Blogs! (and Drudge and Rob). 

Sorry, no newsprint fan here. 

Gene Redlin on March 7, 2006 at 07:50 pm
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There even was one female Marine who said something like, "I didn’t think I would actually have to use my rifle"!

I was an artillery brigade adjutant when we deployed.  I had a female clerk who got pregnant while we were deployed.  She kept it a secret because she didn’t want to use it as an excuse to be sent home.  She only came forward when we were ordered to begin taking nerve agent pre-treatment pills just prior to the shooting started.  She was oncerned about the effects they would have on the baby.  She was heart-broken that she had let her fellow soldiers down.

Steve L. on March 8, 2006 at 04:14 am
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You have to give credit to Bill Nichols, the reporter who wrote the article. The contortions he went thru in order to get that liberal bias into that article must have been painful.

EdMcGon on March 8, 2006 at 08:00 am
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