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the fight over the legality public surveillance cameras is both a waste of time

I agree.  Besides, surveilance cameras have been use in the private sector for years.  Try walking into a bank, convenience store, etc. without appearing on film.  The cameras are there for the purpose of identifying criminals in the process of doing criminal actions.  I expect public cameras to be used similarly.

Being liberal is never having to admit you’re wrong

I don’t like machines watching me. In the near future, machines will watch me and have legal rights. This cedes too much power and control over to these machines. Right now they’re just dumb eyeballs. Soon enough they’ll have brains to back them.

Big Brother watching over you will be technology itself. There is way too much information out there for any human to sift through. The machines will watch us.

All these cameras are just so that the Matrix can perfect itself. They’re going to make digital copies of us. The more you’re on camera, the more detailed your program.

While I understand the rationale behind it, the whole idea of constantly being watched by someone somewhere gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Understanding the need and liking are two different things.

Election ‘08 - We Are So Screwed

Is the question more about limiting in what ways the cameras may be used.

The Debate is over!  Global Whining has been confirmed.

If we’d had more surveillance cameras, we might have found out sooner that Soylent Green was people and that Rosebud was the name of the sled!

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

lik and pil, like it or not surveillance is here now.  Anything used by government, business or anybody is subjest to abuses.  Like toot said, we must be vigilante to recognize and take actions against any abuse.

Being liberal is never having to admit you’re wrong

Soylent Green was people

Great, I just bought the DVD and was going to watch it tonight for the first time. 

Plot spoiler!

The Debate is over!  Global Whining has been confirmed.

lik and pil, like it or not surveillance is here now.

Yeah, I know...but the thought of it expanding still creeps me out.

Election ‘08 - We Are So Screwed

LOL, don’t you have to wonder why anyone would want to watch “us”? Stop flattering yourselves and face it everyone ... the chances of someone wanting to watch the likes of any of us is quite remote. On the other hand, if you do come across someone that enjoys watching one of you then that right there is just plain creepy.

On the other hand, if you do come across someone that enjoys watching one of you then that right there is just plain creepy.

I’m not exactly talking about watching me take a shower or a bubble bath or dancing in my spiderman undies or...nevermind. I’m back. As far as you know there is no existing video of me doing any of those things. I’m just uneasy about cameras being on very street corner.

Election ‘08 - We Are So Screwed

Great, I just bought the DVD and was going to watch it tonight for the first time.

Whistler: Just be glad you weren’t half way through Citizen Kane!

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Whistler: Just be glad you weren’t half way through Citizen Kane!

Citizen Kane was built around my life story so I already knew that.

Of course it wasn’t factually 100% correct.  I kept my darned sled when they hauled me away.

The Debate is over!  Global Whining has been confirmed.

Of course it wasn’t factually 100% correct.

Well, they had to leave out the part about you actually being elected and forming the shadow government. Or the two illegitimate sons you sired: Ron and Ru Paul.

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

I am in the 25%.  Every government program that is put in place to help protect us Americans eventually is abused, usually to the detriment of us.  Also, eventually all Americans will adjust to having security cameras watching our every move by doing what the majority does to stay out of trouble and not be noticed by Big Brother.  Just another step in becoming a nanny-state.

I’d still like someone to demonstrate to me why anyone should think they have a right to privacy on a public street.

The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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docdave - lik and pil, like it or not surveillance is here now.

No kidding. In due time, the all knowing and interconnected robots will be upon us. I’ve already accepted these fates.

Anna - LOL, don’t you have to wonder why anyone would want to watch “us”? Stop flattering yourselves and face it everyone ... the chances of someone wanting to watch the likes of any of us is quite remote.

Are you kidding? We’ve had commentors here who would have jumped at the chance to track some of us. And this is just a blog!

Not to mention all of those women who deal with stalker ex-boyfriends. Are they flattering themselves?

Rob - I’d still like someone to demonstrate to me why anyone should think they have a right to privacy on a public street.

I don’t think that anybody is arguing that. You have no right to privacy out in the open. A street corner camera recording you, while using facial recognition technology to ID and track you, violates good social graces. Forget privacy. You never had that. What we’re losing as a society are good manners and boundaries of trust.

That’s not to say that I don’t support it in private stores as a deterrent against theft and lawsuit.

A tracked and ordered society is a safer one. Who needs this freedom thing? If solving crimes is the argument, then let’s stop pussyfooting around and take it to the next level. We need to see if John Doe the school principle is visiting porn stores. He has no right to privacy and we have the right to watch him. We need to watch the streets and see if little Johnny is violating his curfew. Most cities have them so that the under 18 crowd has to be in by 10 or 11. We need cameras outside of abortion mills so that we can monitor the door for minors. You know how we can’t trust “Planned Parenthood” to follow the law. We need cameras inside of jail cells. The imprisoned have given up all of their rights! Just think of the websites we can get with that one. Watching prisoners will be as simple as going to prisonerwatch.com and picking a cell. Let’s truly embrace the watching society and see what happens. What have you got to fear?

Privacy is freedom. We’re giving that up as a society.

If you don’t believe that privacy is freedom, just ask any paparazzi followed movie star.

Too many people equate freedom with rights and then launch into how we have no right to privacy. That’s the wrong tact to take.

what is privacy?

what is privacy?

What color are your underwear?

If you hesitate at that question, congratulations! You’ve just felt the need for a bit of privacy.

Rob Wrote~~~ I’d still like someone to demonstrate to me why anyone should think they have a right to privacy on a public street.

Do you ever read articles about people getting robed on the streets and not a single person helps?  I figure because they fear for their lives..  If people actually cared and respected others privacy..  Hey that’s a good idea.  Respect.  The majority of the “whiners” such as you, Rob I have a problem with.  If you are only going to whine about such things Rob what is the point?  Why don’t you do something about all of your complaints.  If people actually wanted to help instead of sabotage the being I have no problems with someone butting into someone else’s privacy.  If not shut up and look into your own life..

lik wrote~~ What color are your underwear?

If you hesitate at that question, congratulations! You’ve just felt the need for a bit of privacy.

LOL typical answer..

count me in the thirty percent. it one thing behind the counter at the bank, but not everywhere.