re 2, 7, and 9 Al Qaeda confirmed his death and that he wasn’t “small potatoes”.

re 10 Convince the blowbots and their programmers that “killing doesn’t solve anything”, good luck. These guys are natural born killers, and like a skunk with rabis simply need to be exterminated. You don’t waste much time taking a rabid skunk to the vet for a “cure” you just kill it.

Trying to “reason” with these freaks is like trying to reason with Jeffery Dahmer or Charles Manson. Who in their right mind thinks they are in their right mind??

Abu Musab al Zarqawi; condemed by his own words

May 18, 2005 – “The killing of infidels by any method including martyrdom (suicide) operations has been sanctified by many scholars even if it means killing innocent Muslims…The shedding of Muslim blood…is allowed in order to avoid the greater evil of disrupting jihad.”

The greater evil of disrupting jihad??

The trouble with Islam is that these evil, violent, radicals are the ones in control!!

Any Muslim that disagrees with them is an apostate and desreves to die.

No wonder the “moderate” Muslim doesn’t often cross them.

diane: Better run. I am never rude to you, but I regularly refute you, usually with your own words. I don’t care if you respond to me or not, since I have no need for your attention. I will continue to refute your BS, though. If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Diane,

Here is a Kofi Annan quote;

“State sovereignty, in its most basic sense, is being redefined not least by the forces of globalisation and international co-operation. States are now widely understood to be instruments at the service of their peoples, and not vice versa. At the same time individual sovereignty by which I mean the fundamental freedom of each individual, enshrined in the charter of the UN and subsequent international treaties has been enhanced by a renewed and spreading consciousness of individual rights. When we read the charter today, we are more than ever conscious that its aim is to protect individual human beings, not to protect those who abuse them.”

We hear from the psychomyopic and psychoglaucomic left the war was immoral becasue “the coalition violated Iraq’s state sovereignty”.

Those who paralyze themselves with the notion a dictatorship has any moral claim to state sovereignty apparently want to stick with the traditional and conservative way sovereignty has been defined, one that allows a band of thieves to make a whole country their personal killing field, and in the process claim “state sovereignty”. They blinder themselves to the fact these totalitarian dictatorships utterly violate the concept of individual sovereignty and instead offer up the idea of individual sovereignty on the twisted altar of immoral state sovereignty.

I think true “progressives” would do well to consider Kofi’s further comments;

“Any such evolution in our understanding of state sovereignty and individual sovereignty will, in some quarters, be met with distrust, scepticism, even hostility. But it is an evolution that we should welcome. Why? Because, despite its limitations and imperfections, it is testimony to a humanity that cares more – not less – for the suffering in its midst; and a humanity that will do more – and not less – to end it.”

Would you comment on the validity of idea of state sovereignty in the case of a dictatorship?

DO you believe a dictatorship hold a valid moral claim on state sovereignty?

Doesn’t a dictatorship’s inherent violation of individual sovereignty render any claim of state sovereignty a moral farce?

diane clowns, It seems to me the one who hates America is George W. Bush. He’s done more to take it down than any president I can think of.

This is coming from the person who doesn’t know the definitions of “illegal”, “anti-Constitutional”, and “immoral”.

It’s just the BushWhacked who still hang in there.

Thank goodness he’s only got about 1.5 years left to destroy more of what’s left of the country.

This is considered a “good argument” by diane.

What idiots these people are are.

This post is excellent and really shows them for the brainless thugs they are.

diane plays right into the subject of this topic. She thinks we’re “brainless thugs” for believing Zarqawi should have been killed.

Never let them in power again. They hate America.

Who is she talking about here? I sense projection.

We had lots of choice about the pre-emptive strike on Iraq. Dimwit decided to go for it against counselling by people who knew it was a really stupid idea.

Not a very persuasive argument here. Who’s the “Dimwit”? diane is.

You folks are the America haters. What you love is having control over people lives, minds and morals. But you don’t. You think you do.

Seems just like the rhetoric heard just before the 2004 elections. Who won that one again?

I’ll make this real easy. I’m no longer responding to people who are simply here to be rude to me. That includes not even reading the crap they post. The list includes:

likwidshoe
Robert108
HotelBoy
LoadTheMule
BatOne
docdave

On the edge are:
Carrick
Justin B

I’ll continue to post to the topics and ignore anything from the first group of vicious posters.

Save it. I won’t read it or respond.

Or at least they seem to hate Bush more than they love America.

Ken McCracken on June 10, 2006 at 2:41 PM

It seems to me the one who hates America is George W. Bush. He’s done more to take it down than any president I can think of.

Today at Home Depot we stood behind an old Air Force retiree who was a captain for TWA most of his career after the military.

He cannot stand George Bush after voting for him in 2000 and 2004. He’s part of the base Georgie Boy is losing every day.

It’s just the BushWhacked who still hang in there.

Thank goodness he’s only got about 1.5 years left to destroy more of what’s left of the country.

Jesse, just so as you know, Diane subscribes to the 9/11 alternative conspiracy theories. I say “alternative conspiracy theories” because of course the official version was a conspiracy theory this time.

And the site is du.org in case Diane wants to go there. At least there are like minded people.

Too tight blinders can cut off blood flow to the brain you know…..

Woops…my computer is not working well these days.

This was pasted (the other was from another thread, another insulting post to me) by GENE REDLIN (apparently you didn’t read his post):

Yea, like we had a choice once we had the info.

Never let them in power again. They hate America.

You know, we “murdered” Zarqawi “in cold blood”. It was not a hot combat situation. And that’s a good thing!

Likwidshoe,

I honestly think it all comes down to the convenience of expediency. Heaven knows these people are simply not capable of rational thought. Maybe its a form of genetic predisposition, the intellectual equivalent of permanent political PMS.

The radical left informs us that the sovereignty of Iraq under Saddam was inviolate, but the sovereignty of the State of Israel does not exist. (No word yet on the sovereignty of Serbia, I guess.)

The UN is ever so admirable and authoritative when it is fawning over palestinian terrorists who cannot mannage to govern, even marginally, the Gaza Strip, an area of roughly 139 square miles, less than one tenth the size of Rhode Island, but the fact that the very same UN granted Israel its sovereignty is completely ignored. (We will leave aside the whole question of the UN’s incomparable corruption, incompetence, ineffectiveness, and predatory sexual perversions).

Christians, especially the hideous and dreaded “fundamentalist” variety (whatever that is) are far, far more dangerous than Islamist Jihadis, who run around blowing up themselves and anyone else, women and children included, within 50 yeards, or hacking off the heads of live “infidels” all with no word of condemnation from those on the left. While those who are proud of our country and would defend it, or have, are regarded as knuckle-dragging neanderthals or worse.

The war in Iraq was morally wrong because Iraq supposedly posed no threat to the US, but US military action in the Balkans, initiated for even less justification, and now some ten years beyond the stated deadline, are conveniently ignored by the same leftist hypocrites (pardon the redundancy).

Phooey!

Except for the occasional amusement of trifling with them to stave off the chill of boredom, I see no reason to bother with them at all.

Rude to you? Get a gripe, diane–you must be ‘channeling’ again. I simply called you on your, “You’ll accept FICA because I said so,” schtick. You didn’t own up then and you won’t own up now. How utterly pathetic.

Regards…

Jesse, liberals don’t really believe that state sovereignty stuff.

They sure didn’t when Bill Clinton led an illegal, pre-emptive war against a nation that didn’t threaten us in Serbia.

They only pretend to believe in it now that they think they can attack Bush with it.

Their tune will change when it is convenient to do so. They are dishonest to the core.

Good grief Diane, are you for real??

Imagination, is the word, the right word, if she is for real.

Diane, what’s your Democratic Underground name??

Zsa Zsa, I agree with you.

Or at least they seem to hate Bush more than they love America.

Democratic Underground is where all the wacko theories like United 93 was shot down, the 9-11 planes were flown by remote control etc. are believed as fact. It’s a study of how bizzare people’s ideas can get and still have the whole herd believe them.