This is Cross Posted from way over at
TakingBacknd.com
Senator Dorgan actually had the nerve to sit down and have a
friendly interview with
The Fargo Forum. The first time I read through the interview I was disgusted with the softball questions the Forum asked of him. However when you think about it you don't expect pigs to fly. Besides Senator Dorgan is too arrogant to submit to a hard interview. I suppose it's best that the Forum get him talking and we can put out the inconsistencies in Senator "Dorganoff's" interview.
First of all I have to take issue with the Forum's Headline, "Dorgan: Stricter Ethics Rules on the Way." I find that a curious way to introduce an interview concerned with Senator Dorgan's alleged lapses in ethics. What difference does it make what the rules are until you know the guy is going to follow them.
From the article:
Fargo Forum: You said people who may be connected to Abramof (sic) were trying to specifically discredit you because of your being involved in the Senate Indian Affairs Committee investigation. What makes you think that and who would those people be?
That's the Forum's question. It doesn't look to me that they really want to dig into Senator Dorgan's involvement in this scandal.
"Dorganoff" Well, The Hill newspaper published an article with a headline that the Republicans’ strategy was to pull Democrats into the Abramoff issue. In recent weeks, people who talked to Republican strategists said their approach was to pull Democrats into it so that it is not seen as a Republican scandal.
The fact is (Sen.) John McCain and I took on this investigation. We exposed a pretty big scandal, and it’s not surprising to me that there’s some push-back.
Do paranoids have enemies? Senator Dorgan's known to have some goofy conspiracy nut theories. Seriously
Michael Moore's known to use Byron Dorgan's nut case theories in his movies. Does Senator Dorgan think this "they're all after me" gambit will deflect attention from his own involvement?
I guess Senator "Dorganoff" forgot that The Washington Post covered this issue almost a year ago. The Fargo Forum covered Senator Dorgan's ethical lapses a bit later than that. And I covered it in June of last year. You may have questions about my partiality, but if you're thinking that the Washington Post and the Fargo Forum are hard on Democrats you're as dumb as Senator Dorgan thinks you are. (The links for the Post, Forum and my June Post are found on this
post here.)
Forum: You’ve been asked before why you didn’t step down from the Abramoff committee investigation. You had already declined stepping away from the investigation and obviously you haven’t.
"Dorganoff:" Anyone who has paid attention to the investigation would understand that there’s never been a conflict. I mean, I’ve been – Sen. McCain and I have both been – the most aggressive interrogators, the most aggressive investigators of this scandal.
I think a great followup question for the Forum to have asked would be,
"Is the reason you refuse to step down so you can block any investigation of your involvement in the Abramoff/Greenberg Taurig affair?" The Department of Justice is looking into this situation. However unless they can get someone like Michael Smith to testify against Senator Dorgan it's going to be a tough prosecution. So it's likely nothing will come of the Justice Department investigation. If that's the case we'll never hear about what really happened because Senator Dorgan is in charge of the public investigation of the Abramoff/Greenberg Taurig affair. The followup question to that is
"How can we trust you when you don't allow a full investigation of your involvement?"
Forum: You’ve said many times you’ve never met Abramoff but, obviously, you knew who he was.
"Dorganoff" I would not have known him from a John Deere tractor. Abramoff was not part of my radar.
Never trust someone like Senator Dorgan who just can't give a straight answer. Apparently he thinks by affecting his folksy Senator Hayseed persona he can deflect the relationship between him and the people
from Team Abramoff he did know well, quite well. Followup question,
"Could you pick out a John Deere Tractor in a lineup?
Forum: You must have been aware of him by the time you used the (MCI) skybox of the Choctaw Indians.
"Dorganoff:" That was in 2001, I believe. That skybox was offered for use by the Green(sic) Traurig law firm by two Democratic attorneys who worked for that law firm. We were told it belonged to the Choctaw Indian tribe. There were pictures of Choctaw Indians on the wall, Choctaw chieftains and so on. And when we reported it on our FEC report four years ago, we reported it as an in-kind contribution from the Choctaw Indian tribe. When reports later surfaced that suggested that Mr. Abramoff had controlled perhaps that and other skyboxes, I immediately refunded the money that was reported as an in-kind contribution from the Choctaw tribe.
There goes Senator Dorgan trying to deceive us again. Jack Abramoff was in charge of the Washington office of Greenberg Taurig. Apparently the law firm maintains an office in Washington for lobbying purposes. Senator Dorgan doesn't care to inform us who these two "lawyers" were. (They may have a law degree, but if they lobby full-time they are lobbyists.) I suspect at least one of these two lawyers was Michael Smith of Team Abramoff. We know he was at the MCI center that night. The Washington Post referred to him as Democrat Fundraiser.
Followup Questions: "
"If Michael Smith of Team Abramoff were to invite you to a fundraiser at the Ralph Englestad Arena would you just assume that it belonged to the Sioux Tribe and list it that way in your FEC reports?" "Would you expect a lobbying firm to decorate their fundraiser skybox with pictures appropriate to their clients?" " Have you corrected your false FEC reports?" "What's the penalty for filing a false FEC report?"
Forum: You’ve been saying that since the first time …
"Dorganoff" If somebody came to my office and said, “Do something and I’ll give you a campaign contribution,” I’d kick them out of my office. North Dakotans know that is not the way I would ever allow business to be done.
"So why don't you allow a full investigation of your involvement? How do North Dakotan's know when you're in the perfect position to block any investigation of your involvement?"
The Forum chose to run this interview in two parts. Because of the length of this post I'll follow their example and post the rest tomorrow.