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Let’s load up those National Guard troops and start the invasion, there’s plenty of those guard to do Afghanistan, Iraq, the Border and now Iraq.  Oh but the war in Iraq is over so we can just shuffle our men and women across the border since we are done in Iraq ( according to some posters here.)

So you approve of making Jews readily identifiable? Now we know what you are.

WELL I THINK WE NEED TO PUT A BADGE ON THAT RETARD AHMADI NEJAD BECUASE HE LOOKS LIKE A MONKEY.HAHA HIS NOT HUMAN.IAM SURE HIS MOTHER HAD SEX WITH A MONKEY IN A ZOO OR SOMETHING.HIS 1 METRE TALL AND HAS A FACE LIKE A MONKEY BUT THE AGAIN THE MONKEYS EYES LOOK NICER THAN HIS EYES SO A CREDIT TO THE MONKEY.FUCKKK YOU MOLAS ENJOY BUSHES COCK IN YOUR MUSLIM ASS SOO TATA

And what the hell was that all about?

Diversity

Puzzle-- We have plenty of National Guard troops available, overe 400,000.  The 6,000 that will perform their annual field training for 2-3 weeks will be under state control. 

If you want to know any more about the National Guard, ask.

Now, on subject--Maybe now the UN will issue a warning about discrimination, the ACLU will sue Iran and the left will crawl out from under their rocks!

Ken,

This appears to be but one more gentle Beatitude from the Mullahs, and those “most lovely and law-abiding folks on the face of the earth” as some raving dolt once put it.

And yes, we have seen this before.  I had a great uncle who survived (barely) Buchenwald.  I believe the Germans under National Socialist rule considered themselves “lovely and law-abiding folks” too.

I wonder if our leftwing brethren have any thoughts that this ought to be recognized as a danger and dealt with, or would they just sweep it under the flying carpet along with a tidy pile of pointless platitudes.

Hey, guttermouth 2h9, that’s like asking when was the last time you beat your wife?  Not worth responding to.

Your statement would appear to support badges for Jews. So no response is needed.

and Christians

No concern for Christians, just Jews?

The last one to do it was a White man, a professed ‘christian’, Adolph Hitler.  In fact, some of the religious leaders ‘christian’..backed him.

Of course, we didn’t make Iraqis wear religious differentiation badges..we just shocked and awed them to death no matter what religion they were.

I think ALL of it is horrible; what the Iranian parliament apparently just passed and what we are doing in Iraq.  I see no difference because, in my eyes, people are people and they all bleed red blood which cannot be broken down into religion.

I suppose seeing 30K to 100+K innocent mostly Muslims slaughtered has had an effect on their next door neighbors.

Of course, someone of you would like it if Iran sat quietly and watched while Muslims were slaughtered wholesale and just smile and pretend nothing was happening on their own borders.

I imagine if we had around 200,000 foreign troops bombing and slaughtering in the U.S., Canada and Mexico might become a little embittered and reactive as well.  Perhaps, if they were mostly Muslims slaughtering and bombing us, they would segregate Muslims in their countries, much as the U.S. DID to Japanese.

China will not allow these words from even being mentioned.  Those who even attempt to compare 30,000 killed during liberation from Sadam are quite slanted.  Their perspective is skewed.  That is a statistical term. 
Taiwan
Tibetan independence
Falun Gong
Dalai Lama
China Democracy Party
I do not embrace the philosophy of:  even if one person is killed, the effort should not be done.
What we have here is the better good, the just war.  We were attacked, we are at war.  We will maintain and enforce our own discipline, much to the contrast of communist countries.

The USA has more than enough troops, the problem is the idea of fighting limited wars, a stupid politically-correct-idea that began in Vietnam with Lindon Jonhson deciding wihcih targets US pilots could shoot at/ bomb and when they could fire back at the enemy that was shooting at them with AAA.

The USA fighting a politically correct war is like two boxers in a ring but the US boxer who is by far the bigest and strongest of the two has one hand tied behind his back and can only hit say, the right cheek and the forehead of his opponent, and if he hits any where else he looses point - all that to please the politically correct crowd - but the opponent who is an ordinary fighter, can hit the US boxer any where - even below the belt - and any time - even after the round is finished, he can also kick and bite the US boxer anywhere and anytime:
it would be utterly ridiculous to fight this way wouldn’t you say?

Well that is exactly what is happening right now in the middle east -thanks to the pc crowd .

The US could have won easely in both Afghanistan and Iraq in about a couple of months if instead of surgical operations meant to avoid religious sites, historic sites, water melon vendors and chiken farms and this and that it had fought as it did in WWII.

The US could win easely against Iran in a couple of months - even an Iran with nukes - because the USA has far superior fire power.
But if it won’t use it - just to please the PC crowd ( who is IMPOSSIBLE to please anyway because the politically correct left hates the US no matter what the USA does )the USA will be in another ridiculous war that will drag on forever.

Imagine if the USA - to please the PC crowd - had refused to bomb Germany to avoid destroying religious sites and historic sites, and if the USA - to please the PC crowd - had refused to bomb Germany to avoid killing the children and the wives and mothers of Nazis, how long would have WWII lasted? another 6 years? Most probably much longer than that, maybe the USA would have never won and US troops would still be fighting in the streets of Berlin…
You think that ludicrous? Well Israel and Palestine have been fighting since 1948...that is what a limited politically correct war will get you = a conflict with no end in sight…

Look at how Al qaeda fights, they kill anyone anytime; women, children, humanitarian workers, even Iraqis, even muslims! they kill ANYone at ANYtime.
That is why a few hundred Al Qaeda terrorists can give a hard time to the most powerful military in the history of the world; Al qaeda does not have it’s hand tied by the pc-leftist crowd…

Amhadinejad has said of his opponents ( the USA, Israel etc..) that they are idiots, and he is right, as long as we listen to the pc leftists and as long as -with one hand tied behind our back- go to a fight against an opponent that respects NO rules at all, we are real idiots.

The pc-left has made idiots of us all.

diane forgets (selectively) that Saddam slaughtered 1.5 million “innocent mostly Muslims”
and the effect it had on his neighbors.
Toss in the bloodshed from the Ayatolla Khomeini of Iran and you have more than enough blame to go around.

She probably thinks the Taliban were members of the Good Neighbor Society.

diane, you must be a very happy person because ignorance is bliss.

You know what happens when you make assumptions, Guttermouth.

Friend-- Correct again.  In Vietnam, a mother passed up a baby into a C-130 troop carrier on a humanitarian mission.  The nurse war horrified when she felt the baby.  It was strapped with C-4!  She was reluctant to do anything until a loadmaster threw the baby back.  She was again, horrified.  He told here that “they” do not have the same values that we have as Americans, including the value of life.  There are some here in America who apparently do not understand, nor realize this fact.  They may even embrace those same fanatical “values”. The islamo-facists are similar, but probably more fanatical.
This upcoming mid-term election should include a good smattering of non-PC talk about war.

ps--I disagree with the decision to bomb Dresden.

Mickey-- We share the same ideas.  I really do not understand certain people who do not grasp the evils of war or communism.  They may think that “America is evil” like Chomsky.  The numbers are overwhelming, but they can not grasp the contrast.  Stalin had a saying ~ one killing is a murder, a million are statistics !

Stalin had a saying ~ one killing is a murder, a million are statistics !

How about 30K to 100+K?  What are they, because inquiring Iraqis would like to know.

What we have here is the better good, the just war. We were attacked, we are at war. We will maintain and enforce our own discipline, much to the contrast of communist countries.

When did Iraq attack us, ‘Chief’?

You may ‘maintain and enforce your own discipline’ but don’t be so surprised when people you are disciplining or those living around them, threatened by your enforcement, enforce a little discipline of their own.

Enemy (Friend?) of the USA:

Let’s just get it all over with, right?  Let’s just go carpet bomb the entire Middle East (excluding Israel, OF COURSE) and get the bleepin’ thing over with.

God bless America.

Waving the flag here.

Is there a second or third source confirming this is a true story?

rbb: Yes, Mahmoud really loves the Jews; he is being smeared here, I’m sure.

"Let’s just get it all over with, right? Let’s just go carpet bomb the entire Middle East (excluding Israel, OF COURSE) and get the bleepin’ thing over with.”

For a moment, I thought you had become sane, then realized that you were simply lying again.  It is the right thing to do, but the feminized men of today won’t do it, so we will have terrorism and many innocents killed for many more years.  Lefties: the gift that keeps on giving.

Being a person of logic, integrity and truth:

120,000,000 - 100,000 = 119,900,000 .  This is a perspective.

Those who attacked us were in, and talking with:
Saddam Hussein.

Obliquely, I wonder why the US was fighting with Italy and others in WW II?  (rhetorical question)

On topic-- Badges for Jews. oh, and Christians.
We have been through this before.  Where is the emotional outrage from the left?  (crickets chirping) — I used that line from Michelle, so I am not lying or plagiarizing, I have given credit where credit is due.

FUCKK THE MOLAS.SMELLY CAMEL FUCKING FAT MORONS.FUCKK YOU MOLA FUCKK YOUR CHILD MALESTING RELIGION CUNNT ENJOY MR BUSH DICK SOON BYEEE YOU FUCKING CUNTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT MR BUSH WE LOVE YOU

WE LOVE MR BUSH FREAK THE MOLAS IN THE ASS S GOOD FOR EVERYONE.VERY SOON YOU IRANIAN BASTARDS AND MOLAS GONE ENJOY AMERICA INVADING YOUR IRAN. DOWN WITH YOUR THIRD WORLD COUNTRY

Chief, you seem to find it necessary to assure us you are a man of integrity and truth.  You were going to investigate the subject of Israel’s nuclear arsenal; wondering if you have?

Being a person of logic, integrity and truth:

Those who attacked us were in, and talking with:
Saddam Hussein.

Were ‘in’ and talking with Saddam Hussein. 

Unbelievable, Chief.

Sounds like much less evidence than what Murtha is being condemned for believing.

You people are scary and I pray we can wrestle this country away from you before it’s too late.

Chief RZ

I can’t put my finger on the source of the denial on behalf of some of our citizens. Perhaps, because we have been safe,secure for so long due to the sacrafice of those men and women who take a stand against injustice we have given the ingrates of our society the freedom to irritate like tics.

Disengenous naivete is just another symptom of the liberal mental disease.

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BTW...thank you for your service to our country.

Said by a man who uses Moussaoui with Mickey Mouse ears as his photo.

I’m wondering if Chief can match John Murtha’s service record.

diane
I never argue with the insane.

So, if I respond to you in the third person that is about as much recognition you deserve.

MM- You’re welcome.  Another person also added:
Protesters hate the soldiers because they remind them of their own cowardice.  The word protesters could be subsituted for liberals, communists, and naive sheep.

Mouse, respond or don’t respond any way you please.

Chief, you show the same arrogant attitude as BatOne in saying he has more right to comment on a military topic than those never in the military.

Protestors don’t hate the soldiers.  Protestors hate people being slaughtered who never did a thing aka Iraqis.

Your macho nonsense doesn’t make them cowards, as much as you’d like to pride yourself in thinking it does.

I suppose seeing 30K to 100+K innocent mostly Muslims slaughtered has had an effect on their next door neighbors.

True.  That’s why Iran hates us.  Matter of fact, this explains why Iran hated us 30 years ago when they took American hostages for over a year.  They MUST have sensed the impending (i.e. in 30 years) invasion of their friends the Iraqis.  They figured “Hell, let’s hold Americans hostages to discourage any future attempts to invade our chums next door.”

For diane and others on the left, that was sarcasm.  Normal America is making fun of you.

"Protestors don’t hate the soldiers. Protestors hate people being slaughtered who never did a thing aka Iraqis.”

Another leftie lie.  You want to convict the Marines without a trial, you approve a US Congressman convicting them without trial, but you want full legal rights for the terrorists.  The terrorists killed the Iraqi civilians.  Fact.  Saddam killed Iraqis for thirty years.  Why don’t you protest that?  Because you are supporters of the terrorists.

Jonathan good point, but you should realize that the lefties are making up their numbers to support their positions.

Jonathan says:

Matter of fact, this explains why Iran hated us 30 years ago when they took American hostages for over a year. They MUST have sensed the impending (i.e. in 30 years) invasion of their friends the Iraqis. They figured “Hell, let’s hold Americans hostages to discourage any future attempts to invade our chums next door.”

Now, naive little Jonathan, shall I post some of the atrocities done to Iranians under the U.S. backed Shah?

Link to above:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

rbb-- Continuing to supply facts, here are three stories:  One by the UPI, one referencing Canadian Press, and one by the Christian News Wire, but someone here is prejudiced against Christians, or bloggers, or conservative canadians, so here is a fourth source--
The National Post.  Not much from the MSM here in the USA so far today.

and here is one source questioning this story.

Hopefully this will show up in more than the blog-asphere.

Protestors don’t hate the soldiers. Protestors hate people being slaughtered who never did a thing aka Iraqis.

But Diane what did the 3000 human beings do to deserve being slaughtered on 9/11?

Where is your hate for that?

She, who doesn’t like my mouse ears, should know that we live in a world of inherently constrained options, tragic choices, and variably incremental trade-offs, rather than one of categorical and emotionally satisfying “solutions”.

She is fortunate to live in a land where reality is optional. That type of freedom wasn’t free.

Mickey,

Wow!!!

That comment is absolutely profound, O mouse-eared one.

That time in the solitary confinement cell has really made him think more clearly.

Or did he copy it off of the back of a cereal box?

Thanks for the good work Z, I saw most of those earlier too.
Some are just stories about the stories.
One said the laws were drafted two years ago and UPI said the laws passed this week, News Busters said the laws are not yet in effect and one reporter adamantly dismissed the story as “absolutely factually incorrect”.

So it’s a wait and see.

Cereal Box, Hell!  I’m blown away.

And. no, this isn’t the Mimi Miyagi thread.

The words belong to Thomas Sowell.
I am but the humble messenger.

But Diane what did the 3000 human beings do to deserve being slaughtered on 9/11?

“We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the Sept. 11” attacks.

President Bush
September, 2003

RBB:  I know I’ve told you this many times.  After 9/11 the country decided that we were not going to wait for the terrorists to attack us again. 

We were going after the terrorists and state sponsors of terrorism. 

It really isn’t that hard of a concept to understand for most of us.

In Iran they hang women for having been raped - not the man who raped her, NO the woman who has been raped, and they use cranes - how modern of them! - to hang them publicly.

How do you feel about that Diane?

So making Jews wear badges sounds like something they would do in stuck-in-the-seventh-century Iran.

Even if the story is not true that does not make any difference, Amhadinejad has said many times he wants to wipe Israel off the map , among other crazy things he has said recently.

He is insane and dangerous.

I fear we will have another Hitler (a real one, not the schizophrenic-paranoid version of the left aka; Bush ) on our hands pretty soon.

I hate war probably as much as you do Diane, but I hate appeasement even more; they tried appeasement in Europe before WWII and look what happened; dozens of millions of innocent people killed.
Appeasement only gives more time to crazy people to build up their arsenal, that is all it accomplishes and nothing else.

Appeasement works with peaceful people, but it never works with psycopath killers.

You can appease a kitten but not a snake.

It is that simple. Grab a history book, you will see.

rbb-- I will put you in my logical, adult, thinker box.  Refreshing exchange.
MM- Yes, profound pontification! 
Friend- Thanks.  I try to avoid those who seem to have been indoctrinated a-la Jane Fonda.

Sheep.

“We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the Sept. 11” attacks.

President Bush
September, 2003

That was then and this now; We have the Saddam tapes who’s autheticity has been confirmed by one of his generals ( who’s name escapes me right now) and every expert who have heard them - Hell! even the MSM does not doubt the tapes are real! ...the MSM just avoids mentioning them…

How convenient it is to ignore the Saddam tapes that came out a couple weeks ago in which we can hear Saddam and his men talk about WMD and terror attacks and much more.
The MSM did an incredible job of HIDING that story to help you people stay in your September 10th state of denial.

In Iran they hang women for having been raped - not the man who raped her, NO the woman who has been raped, and they use cranes - how modern of them! - to hang them publicly.

You can appease a kitten but not a snake.
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Who is the snake?

Who is in a sovereign nation pre-emptively, despite no attack by that nation of their country, and responsible for the deaths of up to 100+K people?

Americans like you are not any more patriotic than those who disagree with you.  We simply see a pattern of American involvement in the Middle East that has brought about problems that we then want to blame the countries we interfered with for.  It was European White folk who killed Jews, Gypsies, Romanians, retarded, mixed race..not Arabs, not Persians, not Egyptians, not Palestinians.

We imprisoned Japanese in WW II in this country in camps.

Ahmadinjead has said nothing more drastic about Israel than Israelis have said about Iran.  Of course, there’s that duplicity again.

What I really dislike about people like you is that you see the world only from your own perspective.  Not the perspective of the people you harm.

How do I feel about ‘that’, Diane?  I don’t like it anymore than I like many of the things about this country’s justice system.  How do you feel about those? (Paroling rapists to rape again?)
Turning women into the victims in rape cases where they become the defendants, not the plaintiffs? 

If you’re going to not like something, at least be honest enough to be consistent.  Admit some blame on America’s part where it’s deserved.

Now, if you’d like me to, I’ll get some quotes by Israeli leaders about what should be done to their neighbors.  I’ll get you proof that they will not allow UN inspectors to view their nuclear capabilities but want their neighbors put under those restrictions, or not allowed any nuclear capabilities.  I’ll show you where they took one out in Iraq.  Can you imagine if it had been the other way around?  No, and you won’t admit it’s a double standard either, will you?

I’d love to see documentation of how many hangings of women who were raped there have been in Iran in the last 50 years.  Do you have any?

And then I’ll show you atrocities committed by Israelis on innocent Palestinian children and women.  I DO have those.

Friend-- Well put.  Too bad certain people can not see an approaching danger.  Sort of reminds me of those in New Orleans who intentionally stayed and “partied”; then complained after the party ended.  Another example was the liberal in the North West who tried to make friends with a black bear! 
rbb-- Right.  Good quote.  At the time we had no evidence of any connections between UBL and Sadam.  Since we have liberated some 44,000 boxes of documents we know know of UBLs visits.
The real question here is all about Iraq.  What about the other 75 places where we are deployed?
Are you OK with the 74 other places and just object to our presence in Iraq?  You do know that we were asked to assist when Iraq was turned over to the Iraqis on 28June2004, don’t you?  The United Nations allows countries to ask for assistance.  This is why we supposedly went into Bosnia.... but that is another story.

Fonda, Chief?

Sorry, I could care less what Fonda has to say about anything. 
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“We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the Sept. 11” attacks.

President Bush
September, 2003

That was then and this now; We have the Saddam tapes who’s autheticity has been confirmed by one of his generals ( who’s name escapes me right now) and every expert who have heard them - Hell! even the MSM does not doubt the tapes are real! ...the MSM just avoids mentioning them…

How convenient it is to ignore the Saddam tapes that came out a couple weeks ago in which we can hear Saddam and his men talk about WMD and terror attacks and much more.
The MSM did an incredible job of HIDING that story to help you people stay in your September 10th state of denial.

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And so, just a ‘couple of weeks ago’ changed everything for you, right?  Hahaha!!!

Well, George Bush and his men have been talking about WMD’s for sometime.  He wants about 125 new ones a year made here in the good ol’ US of A.  Of course, we’re the only ones allowed...except Israel.

You guys are really too funny.

As George said, he had nothing to do with the Septemer 11th attacks and you really need to accept that.

You do know that we were asked to assist when Iraq was turned over to the Iraqis on 28June2004, don’t you?

You mean by that puppet government that is unable to control the impending civil war there?
Impending is generous.  Or were you speaking of something/someone else? 

And now I feel a lecture coming on about the free elections in Iraq.

Chief and the rest of you, do us all a favor and go live there for awhile and see what it’s like since we shocked and awed the civilian population.

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She is fortunate to live in a land where reality is optional. That type of freedom wasn’t free.

She never said she didn’t like your mouse ears, did she?  She knows she’s fortunate and that’s why she intends to do all she can to keep it free and not in the hands of people who are attempting to turn it into a religious dictatorship.

pish.

I think we all have a clear picture of who you are.

Pish? 

Ditto.

I do wonder what the liberals here in the USA will have to say about this.  They could say, “well, who are we to tell them how to govern their own country”.  Iran is truly a Facist Country.  Unelected.  Iraq, on the other hand has had three nation-wide elections where close to 70% of the country voted.  In several stories, the women prepared religiously do die the next day when they voted, but did it anyway.  Now that is patriotism.  Putting you life on the line to vote for your own freedom.
Of course, if a country like Germany were to do the same thing, well, that would be another story. 
The Truth:  Iraq has had three elections.  The populace voted.  The USA and several other countries have been asked to assist.  When I was in Iraq, near Mosul, I saw the Albanians there.  They were a rapid deployment force. 
Forcing a person to wear a Jewish star would be better than just killing them, but the NAZI’s did the same thing first.  Just like gun control.
First certain people wanted to have everyone register their guns.  In two countries, then the guns were confiscated.  Just say NO to overlooking the second amendment and every other constitutional protection.  Vote this November.

Chief:

“. Iran is truly a Facist Country. Unelected

The Iranian presidential election of 2005, the ninth presidential election in Iranian history, took place in two rounds, first on June 17, 2005, and then as a run-off on June 24. It led to the victory of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the hardline mayor of Tehran, with 19.48% of the votes in the first round and 61.69% in the second. Ahmadinejad is believed to have won the second round because of his populist views, especially those regarding the poor people and their economic status. The election saw a turnout of almost 60% of eligible voters, seen as a strike back by Iran at the United States’ initial allegations that many in Iran would be restricted from voting.

Now, I expect Chief and others to contest that this was a fair election, but then myself and others contest that the elections in Iraq were.

So, there you have it.  We will never apparently agree on most things but people like me love this country and refuse to be bullied by people who claim to have a franchise on the right to opinion and patriotism.

The Real Iraq
by Amir Taheri

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/Production/files/Taheri_0606.htm

Sadam garnered 99.6% of those who went to the polls in his last election.  In the former, failed USSR, the proletariat were the only ones who were enfranchised to vote.  In Cuba.....  well, most of us here can discriminate between a farce or show and a free and open election.  In Iran, the mullas, about 10% of the country vote and control this true regime and rule over the other 90%.  Maybe soon they will take to the streets as was done in the Phillipines when Cori Acquino was elected and threw out Marcos.
Badges for Jews. 
rbb-- Let’s see how many media outlets air this story over the weekend.  See you Monday.

MM-- I read that one, too, thought it would be considered “unreliable”, too one-sided.  “Some people you just can’t help”. — movie:  Cool Hand Luke.

roger that Chief

Come on, guys! You know it is only a free and open election when each candidate has a different colored ballot. As they do in Iran,Russia, and Venezuela. Those Great Democracies who are leading us all forward to liberty and peace. It is only fair that everyone watching know who you are voting for as you drop that ballot in the box, that way you can recieve the rewards you so richly deserve!

Just wait until someone proposes putting badges on the true enemies of the state here in the US and watch the liberals complain about having to wear those pink ribbons every time they leave the house. They think that kind of thing should be reserved for Jews…

I love the idea of making the Jews where a yellow badges, arm band, I wish they would do that here in America, and to expand on this idea all Jewish business owners should be forced to hang a sign in the window displaying the fact that the bussiness is owned by a Jew, and likewise a Cross for Christian owned bussiness.

Another thing I love is how some throw things in that is absolutely untrue, the Nazis did not invent gun controll, this related to the Versailles Treaty, the Nazis did leave certain restrictions apply, but they made it a hell of alot easier to obtain firearms.

I just love the were killing you because we love you attitudes, wake up people, it serves no interest to America, it’s all for the greater Israel.

Again I ask you Bushketeers, How is it that Bush is saving America from a future attack all while our borders were kept and continues to be wide open? Come on people its all a sham.

Lies, Lies, Lies. WW2 dont forget Japan was provoked to attack Pearl Harbor, the McCollum memo outlined it all.

Ugh, yet another troll.

No need to respond to your stupidity also Wetback.

I weep for a world filled with the likes of Wetback, Dhummi and Saeed.

No wonder things are so screwed up.

Yeah, docdave, how about a swastika tattoo on their forehead.

Just truth in advertising, really.

The first steps to genocide is to identify and isolate. First the badges, second the concentration camps

With us and the Japanese here, it didn’t work that way.  But then, maybe we do things differently and more efficiently.  Since it was a religious group but a race, just send ‘em right there, no badges required since we can tell by their ‘look’?

And people on this site skip over any link that goes against their grain, just dismiss facts out of hand.  Jonathan snydly states that Americans were kidnapped in Iran because they were ‘anticipating’ a war in Iraq.  When I post the truth about the U.S. interefering in Iran’s internal affairs and backing the Shah with his reign of torture, they ignore it.  When you bring up the lack of security at the borders under Bush and the open ports (containers not adequately checked), they ignore it.  And when you bring up elections in Iran, they’re unfair but Iraq’s are fair and balanced, even though Sunnis complained about them, and when you post statements from women in Iraq about how horrendous their life is under Bush’s occupation, they ignore it.

Makes you wonder if they have cotton in their ears and blinders on.  I don’t wonder, really.  If it doesn’t fit their agenda, it’s not real.

But I’ll keep trying.

...and when you bring up internment of Japanese citizens on this country, they ignore it, and when you bring up Abu Ghraib they excuse it, and when Murtha talks about Marines killing Iraqi babies (3 years was the youngest in the families) in cold blood they want to kill the messenger even though he has a distinguished service record (much more significant than probably any ex or current military person here), and when you bring up Israel’s violation of UN resolutions that’s no big deal or anti-semitic, and when you bring up Israel spying on the U.S. (Jonathan Pollard, etc.) it’s ignored, and Israel’s hit of a U.S. ship that was an ‘accident’, and the U.S. pre-emptively shock and awe bombing innocent civilians in Baghdad it’s justified, and white phosphorusing civilians in Fellujah is fine.

What sick people.  What blind people.  What dishonest people.

Yeah, that Japanese deal was a real bummer, eh docdave?  But, that’s the way things go; I mean we couldn’t trust em after Pearl Harbor, right?
Imagine if Ahmadinejad puts Christians and Jews in camps like that.  Same thing we did, same reasons; if he feels he can’t trust them what with their warmongering attitudes and the U.S. invasion of his neighbor? Of course, we had a ‘good’ reason and he doesn’t, right?

I guess it’s a little like putting Native Americans on ‘reservations’ prior in our history?

I think the armband thing is horrible if it’s true.  I also think the Israeli treatment of Palestinians (making them wait at checkpoints, treating them like dirt, withholding their assessment revenues, killing their children) is just horrendous.  And I think what we did to the Japanese is simply villainous.

At least I’m consistent.

I’m extremely calm and consistent.  Now, when the rest of you join me, maybe we can discuss instead of call me dhimmi, dhummi, slut, bitch, whore, watercarrier, calloused knees, etc.

I’ve been patiently waiting.  Whenever you’re ready.

"At least I’m consistent.”

You consider that a virtue, I guess.  Actually, you aren’t consistent at all, except in your hate.  You now mostly clothe it in moderate-sounding language, rather than the savage hatespew of your comments when you first started posting here, but it will take a lot more of that before anyone believes you have really become reasonable.  I think it’s just an act to garner approval.

Diane, you are, were, and will always be nothing but an attention-starved troll.

"I’m extremely calm...” I hope you realize that is an oxymoron.

No, actually I hadn’t realized that.  BatOne pointed out something similar.

Better an oxymoron than moronic, though.  That’s the one you need to work on.

Diane, you are, were, and will always be nothing but an attention-starved troll.

Ken McCracken on May 19, 2006 at 7:42 PM

And thank you, McCrackpot, for your continuing attention.

And people on this site skip over any link that goes against their grain, just dismiss facts out of hand.

Just like Dianne skiped over the Saddam tapes and the thousand of documents that go against her grain, and she just dismissed those facts out of hand.

Oh yeah and Dianne made fun of me for believing official documents from Saddam that even the MSM says are authentic.

She prefered believing dated information from 2003, because it fits her agenda.

the pot and the kettle…

How nice of her.

please post a link to the tape for me, thanks

I just emailed Rob about that, Jason.

Hey Ken, what happened to the badge story retraction post?

Sorry RBB, made some updates, so I have to wait for Rob to publish it.

It should reappear soon.

Just like Dianne skiped over the Saddam tapes

You posted no verification. 

If you have them..bring it on.  Now who was it who said that?

THIS STORY NOT TRUE!
Iran: Lawmakers Debate Women’s Clothing
Associated Press May 20, 2006

... Emad Afroogh, the legislator who sponsored the bill and is chairman of Parliament’s Cultural Committee, said that the Canadian report was untrue and that the measure sought only to make women dress more conservatively and avoid Western fashions. Another lawmaker, Morris Motamed, a Jew, also said the Canadian report was false.

ALSO NOT TRUE Holocaust “historian” Edwin Black claimed that Iran was responsible for the Holocaust. But see Iran, Jews and the Holocaust: An answer to Mr. Black by Dr Abbas Milani of Stanford University.

More about Jews of Iran:
1- Jews in Iran Describe a Life of Freedom, Christian Science Monitor, February 03, 1998
(http://csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/durableRedirect.pl?/durable/1998/02/03/intl/intl.3.html)

2- Polish Jews were given refuge in Iran during WWII
Associated Press
Thursday, November 23, 2000
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A53268-2000Nov22?language=printer)

3- Iranian Jews PREFER Tehran to Tel-Aviv, Jerusalem Post Nov. 3, 2005
(http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1131043721479&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)

Way of topic…

Ok, so I just read too many accounts of the SADDAM TAPES. Some nutters think they are the smoking gun and some nutters are not convinced and blame the damn media for things that don’t really make sense. Anyway, Rick Moran (R W Nuthouse) concluded with this:

UPDATE IV
I just heard excerpts of the tapes. Nothing conclusive. Nothing earth shattering. Saddam was a thug who wanted WMD. We knew that. Did he have any at the time we invaded? Yes. Massive stockpiles? Probably not. Enough that he would have moved them to Syria? Unknown.

Two government officials, requesting anonymity because of the sensitive subject, say the tapes in no way prove that WMD stockpiles or programs existed at the time of the U.S. invasion or were moved to another country before U.S. troops arrived.

“That purpose is every bit as important now as it was ten years ago when we began it. And frankly they have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors.”

Why would that guy lie before the OBL attack?
And what of the September 21, 2001 PDB?

Well, I’ll take your review of the tapes, rbb, instead of listening myself.

The nutters will grab onto anything because they’ve been made fools of to the core and need something, anything to justify the deaths of up to 100+K innocent Iraqis they may someday be held accountable for, even though Bush got us out of the World Court in anticipation of how furious and disgusted the world would be with his pre-emptive strike and then said it was to ‘protect’ our servicemen.  Not to mention his own skinny little arse.

P.S.  rbb, notice how Jonathan never came back when confronted with the real reason the kidnappings took place in Iran years ago?  They just throw out this half-baked nonsense and expect people to buy it...and they do.  But then, their revered leader Bush does the same thing and they swallow it whole.

The story of badges is just a lie! look http://hoder.com/weblog/

It seems like these planted stories are getting caught earlier and more easily these days. Interesting commentary here.

Yes, this story was a fraud.  Hopefully our military friend hasn’t rushed the troops out to Iran just yet.  Think, people… this story was set up by a neo-conservative friendly PR firm. 

Read the story in the Asia Times.

The media is used to lie to you on purpose.

Please, think.