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Monday, March 06, 2006

SD Governor Rounds Signs Abortion Ban Into Law

Let the battle begin...

PIERRE, S.D. - Gov. Mike Rounds signed legislation Monday banning nearly all abortions in South Dakota, setting up a court fight aimed at challenging the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion.

The bill would make it a crime for doctors to perform an abortion unless the procedure was necessary to save the woman's life. It would make no exception for cases of rape or incest.

Planned Parenthood, which operates the state's only abortion clinic, in Sioux Falls, has pledged to challenge the measure.

Rounds issued a written statement saying he expects the law will be tied up in court for years and will not take effect unless the U.S. Supreme Court upholds it.

"In the history of the world, the true test of a civilization is how well people treat the most vulnerable and most helpless in their society. The sponsors and supporters of this bill believe that abortion is wrong because unborn children are the most vulnerable and most helpless persons in our society. I agree with them," Rounds said in the statement.


And I agree with Rounds.

What amazes me is that so many in the media still describe Roe vs. Wade as a Supreme Court decision which "legalized" abortion. It did, I guess, technically, but the ruling didn't declare that "abortions are legal." Rather, it declared that any law banning the medical procedure is unconstitutional based on some murky interpretation of privacy rights that I still have not been able to figure out to this day.

Regardless, what is important to remember here is that the battle over Roe is not really about abortion so much as it is about state's rights. The Supreme Court ruled in 1973 that a woman killing her unborn child is a right provided for in the Constitution. Most of us who have read the document recognize that neither abortion or any other medical procedure is named in the various articles and amendments and thus is an issue reserved to the states by the 10th amendment.

After all, what good is having a union of sovereign states if the individual states can't decide for themselves how to regulate a specific medical procedure taking place within the border of any given state.

Anyway, expect this battle to take over a decade. The pro-abortion crowd isn't about to let this go without a fight.

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The pro-abortion crowd isn’t about to let this go without a fight.

Nor will the "anti-freedom" crowd. Jeez…

There’s no such thing as a "pro-abortion" crowd. None. There’s pro-abortion-rights and anti-abortion-rights. That’s it.

Dave on March 6, 2006 at 12:10 pm
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Parse it as you want..


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Rob on March 6, 2006 at 12:13 pm

Parse it as you want..

Really? There’s no need for accuracy?

Okay. Those who support abortion rights will be called pro-freedom. Those who oppose abortion rights will be called.... dog-raping child molestors.

Dave on March 6, 2006 at 12:15 pm
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RIght, Dave, thanks, I’ll have to remember that one when it comes time to debate the death penalty - I’m not pro-death penalty, I’m pro-the-states-have-a-right-to-choose the death penalty, or pro-death-penalty-rights for short.

 

Sheesh. 

Doug Stewart on March 6, 2006 at 12:17 pm

Whatever. I’m not the dog-raping child molestor.

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Dave, call names if you must...I’m just not going to waste a lot of time on some silly semantic argument with you.  Pro-life, pro-choice, pro-abortion, anti-abortion rights.  Whatever.  We all know the battle lines.

Those of us in favor of a baby’s right to live will be happily watching as this matter goes before the Supreme Court to (hopefully) be struck down by judges who recognize that <em>Roe</em> is just plain bad Constitutional law.


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Rob on March 6, 2006 at 12:21 pm
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So people who support abortion are,,,,,what? Come dave, tell us how this works. They support abortion but they are not pro-abortion. You really need sue whoever has been teaching you the stupidity.

2Hotel9 on March 6, 2006 at 12:52 pm

So people who support abortion are,,,,,what?

I don’t think anyone does support abortion. (If you could provide me with some examples I’d appreciate it.) I know a lot of people who support the concept of abortion-rights, however.

Dave on March 6, 2006 at 01:02 pm
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So abortion can go away this instant and no one will care?

2Hotel9 on March 6, 2006 at 01:18 pm
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And SCOTUS will use the lack of the rape/incest exception to duck the issue again.

Captain Ned on March 6, 2006 at 02:05 pm

Dave says, Okay. Those who support abortion rights will be called pro-freedom. Those who oppose abortion rights will be called.... dog-raping child molestors.

Can I have your dictionary? I’d like to scan into digital form the definition of "freedom". Does it explain how "freedom" equals the right to kill?

I don’t think anyone does support abortion.

So let me get this straight...Planned "Parenthood" provides for the service of abortion, but yet they do not support it.

Okay! Thanks for the upside down view. It was fun.

likwidshoe on March 6, 2006 at 09:24 pm
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Notice dave shut up when asked to actually answer a direct question.

2Hotel9 on March 7, 2006 at 02:49 am
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Dave:

I don’t think anyone does support abortion. (If you could provide me with some examples I’d appreciate it.) I know a lot of people who support the concept of abortion-rights, however.

That’s assinine.  You’re drawing a distinction without a difference.  If I lived during the 1850’s and said that I "don’t think anyone does support slavery, but I do know a lot of people that support the right of men to hold other humans as property", you’d excoriate me for being pro-slavery, and rightfully so.  Your inartful parsing of the issue notwithstanding, a pro-"choice" stance is objectively pro-abortion - you manifestly allow for the existence of abortion as a part of that choice.
Doug Stewart on March 7, 2006 at 05:19 am
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Thanks, Doug! davey likes to play circular word games, cause that is all he has got. Wait till he hops in with his ideas that infanticide and euthanasia are the greatest things to ever happen to the human race.

2Hotel9 on March 7, 2006 at 06:45 am

So let me get this straight...Planned "Parenthood" provides for the service of abortion, but yet they do not support it.

Yep. In much the same way that hospitals provide services for cancer.

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I see.  So now these unwanted children are cancer to be erradicated by the fearless do-gooders at Planned Parenthood?

Lovely.


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Rob on March 7, 2006 at 09:57 am
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Hospitals provide services for cancer-treatment, meaning they are against cancer and are working to remove it

Unfortunately, PP is providing services to perform abortions, menaing they are for abortion and are working to promote it.   

Your analogy, as predicted, sucks. 

Tom_with_a_Dream on March 7, 2006 at 10:04 am
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I had the misfortune of visiting Planned Parenthood’s web site, as well as their teen site "Teenwire," and I got the distinct impression that this organization was doing all it could to promote virtually any kind of sexuality.  To put it mildly, they were describing things that I didn’t even know could be done--and I’m the married father of four.  I’d like to have some of my innocence back, thank you.

One side effect of such promiscuity as is apparently endorsed by Planned Parenthood (I judge by what they post on their websites, not what they say to the media) is "babies."  Hence, I must conclude that Planned Parenthood does a certain amount of "trolling for business."

Add to that the various things done by NARAL and others, and yes, I must argue that some people are "pro-abortion" and not merely "pro-choice."  Yes, Virginia, there are feminazis out there, some of them working for Planned Parenthood.

Robert Perry on March 7, 2006 at 11:47 am
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To put it mildly, they were describing things that I didn’t even know could be done--and I’m the married father of four.

Dude, you need to get out more…

Don Myers on March 7, 2006 at 11:57 am
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I believe he was using hyperbole, Don. 

And even if he weren’t, just because you can do something does not mean you should do it…

Think hot tub air-bubble vent things and naked drunk college guys.... 

Tom_with_a_Dream on March 7, 2006 at 12:06 pm
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Think hot tub air-bubble vent things and naked drunk college guys.... 

Eww, gross!

Don Myers on March 7, 2006 at 12:14 pm
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I accept your surrender...   smile

Tom_with_a_Dream on March 7, 2006 at 12:29 pm
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Tom, I wish I’d been using hyperbole, but no.  When I visited those sites, my response was pretty much "WHAT THE......?"

In short, the fact that PP promotes things that gross Don out does seem to indicate that PP is trolling for business. 

Robert Perry on March 8, 2006 at 08:29 am
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I had been to TeenZine a long time ago, linked there from something Dawn Eden wrote about the evils of PP, and would never go there again.  If they have described/promoted such acts as you intimate, I am ...  well, I am not sure what I would be, shocked doesn’t seem to cut it, and niether does dismayed, oh well…

Tom_with_a_Dream on March 8, 2006 at 09:12 am
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