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Monday, December 12, 2005

Calling For Revolution

Salon's Cary Tennis:

At a certain point in the near future, if the current oligarchy cannot be removed via the ballot, direct political action may become an urgent and compelling mission. It may then be necessary for many people in many walks of life to put their bodies on the line. For the moment, however, although pressing and profound questions have arisen about whether the current government is even legitimate, i.e., properly elected, there still remains a chance to remove this government peacefully in the 2008 election. (Or am I living in a dream world?)

I do think this regime's removal is the most urgent matter before the country today. . . . This is all terrible and rather fantastic to contemplate. But what assurances have we that it is not all quite plausible? Having discarded the principles that Jefferson & Co. espoused, the current regime seems capable of anything. I know that my imagination is a feverish instrument. But are we not living in feverish times, in times of the unthinkable?


Ace responds:

...when disaffected, no-account fantasy-race-warriors joined militia movements in the nineties, the media was all a-twitter at this dangerous threat to our nation's stability. Nevermind that the movement was decidedly fringe and small, and that a lot of the people involved weren't particularly hard-core politically. They just liked running around the woods with guns (which, I have to admit, sounds kind of fun).

But when mainstream left-liberals write of violent revolution in not-at-all-fringe left-liberal magazines, no one in the media seems particularly bothered.

Suggesting they're not bothered by the idea of violent revolution, so long as the right people wind up with their backs up against the wall.


Sounds about right to me. This would also explain their willingness to undermine any sort of progress in Iraq with overly negative reporting and a total refusal to acknowledge the progress made there and the positive implications that progress has for the whole region.

Because if removing the current regime is the most pressing issue for them right now what does losing a little war in Iraq matter?

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You should read the articles on which you comment. Your knee would jerk into your head less often.

WOOF on December 12, 2005 at 12:13 pm
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Woof: There have been plenty of articles on the leftie blogs lately calling for violent revolution.  Wake up and smell the marxism!

robert108 on December 12, 2005 at 02:13 pm
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I don’t think that Cary Tennis, a mere grad student at some liberal college in the northeast, is someone to be taken serious.  His salon article http://www.salon.com/mwt/col/tenn/2005/12/12/activist/index_np.html paints a picture of a fairly shallow person not one likely to start a revolution.

docdave on December 12, 2005 at 03:13 pm
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The cited article does not call for revolution it says go to Harvard.

leftie blogs lately calling for violent revolution

Below my radar.

Marxism is in utter collapse

Someone always picks up the flame:

hostile, lumpen mesomorphs ripping open our luggage

Ann Coulter

WOOF on December 12, 2005 at 03:13 pm
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All I can say is bring it on. Marxism is in utter collapse, lets us throw it to the ground and put a bullet through it’s head. Then humanity can move forward and leave the rotting corpse of socialism behind.

2Hotel9 on December 12, 2005 at 03:13 pm
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Ann saying

hostile, lumpen mesomorphs ripping open our luggage

shows class warfare thrives in the Queen of the right.

WOOF on December 12, 2005 at 04:12 pm
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Still not understanding, could you write that in english? Or is that a hate-filled attack?

2Hotel9 on December 12, 2005 at 04:13 pm
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woofie? What the hell is the point of that second point in your second comment?

2Hotel9 on December 12, 2005 at 04:13 pm
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And what does Ann Coulter have to do with this post?

2Hotel9 on December 12, 2005 at 04:13 pm
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2h9: First and foremost, Woof is smearing Ann Coulter, which he likes to do. No relevance to the post at all, just Woof’s hatred of powerful conservative women. “Mesomorphs” are people with an athletic build.  It isn’t a class distinction, but a method of describing physicality.

robert108 on December 12, 2005 at 05:12 pm
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Ah,now I see. Sort of like knuckle-dragging,no-neck, mouth-breather. woofie is scared of any woman who does not"stay" in her place, as defined by him, of course. You ought to get him started on Malkin. He comes totally unhinged. Fear does that to tiny, little-minded people.

2Hotel9 on December 12, 2005 at 06:12 pm
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Woof: Your hatred for Ann doesn’t change the meaning of the word “mesomorph”.

robert108 on December 12, 2005 at 06:12 pm
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Revolution is what the post is about.
Ann thinks in Marxist terms (lumpen), which I find amusing.
Mesomorph is suspect description when coming from Ann.

WOOF on December 12, 2005 at 06:13 pm
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Suggesting they’re not bothered by the idea of violent revolution, so long as the right people wind up with their backs up against the wall.  Well, and Salon readers usually don’t own guns. More commentary from Rob Port:  “This would also explain their willingness to undermine any sort of progress in Iraq with overly negative reporting and a total refusal to acknowledge the progress made there and the positive implications that progress has for the whole region. Because

Instapundit.com on December 12, 2005 at 08:12 pm
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I don’t think that Cary Tennis, a mere grad student at some liberal college in the northeast, is someone to be taken serious. His salon article http://www.salon.com/mwt/col/tenn/2005/12/12/activist/index_np.html paints a picture of a fairly shallow person not one likely to start a revolution.

I’m not so sure, Doc.  Salon is a fairly influential and mainstream liberal publication.  That they would see no problem publishing something like this is troubling.


When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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Rob on December 12, 2005 at 08:12 pm
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The article is satire.

small, isolated city in the mountainous Northeast.

Shangri-la

Behold the awesome power of the words “Harvard” and “Berkeley”!

WOOF on December 13, 2005 at 05:12 am
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Rob:"I’m not so sure, Doc. Salon is a fairly influential and mainstream liberal publication. That they would see no problem publishing something like this is troubling”

I find the whole leftist liberal mantra troubling.  Their entire philosopy entails peace, appeasement and multiculture tolerance; not necessarily desirable qualities for revolutionaries.  Liberals remind me of petulant children that pout if they can’t get their way and really how serious do you take people whose war stategy is to ‘cut and run’?

So the question is: are they crazy enough to do something violent?  I think so but only on a small isolated scale.

docdave on December 13, 2005 at 07:12 am
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I guess it’s a very popular joke on the leftie blogs lately, then.  What a copout!

robert108 on December 13, 2005 at 08:12 am
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docdave: “Small isolated scale?” I don’t think so.  The “dissenters” on the left are already pretty violent, and getting more so every demonstration.  Union picket lines have been violent for at least a century. The environmental wing of the left is already practicing terrorism(Earth First! and the like), and the animal rights people have committed many acts of vandalism/terrorism for many years.  It’s already here(leftie violence), IMO.

robert108 on December 13, 2005 at 09:13 am
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robert; ‘The “dissenters” on the left are already pretty violent, and getting more so every demonstration.’

No question about their propensity for violent expression but what I meant from ‘small scalle’ was that I didn’t see them forming organized armies to fight pitched battles.  To me, the left violence is more likely to be in the nature of disorganized mobs or small terrorist cells like the Islamic terrorists who run with their tails between their legs as soon as they meet have a few casualties.

docdave on December 13, 2005 at 12:13 pm
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docdave: I agree with you; I guess we would use different words for the same thing.  I consider the number of lives lost worldwide to small-scale terrorism to be very undesirable. I favor using extreme means to prevent it.

robert108 on December 13, 2005 at 01:13 pm
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