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To former President Clinton, the White House Press Corps was a captive audience. Can’t they find anything better to bash Bush about?

Love him or hate him, the President is due a level of respect that allows him to address the American people without be screamed at by partisan idiots.

Sure.  But does that mean that only loyal partisans can attend his speeches?

Eno:

To former President Clinton, the White House Press Corps was a captive audience.

WTF? For 3 years I couldn’t find a nespaper that wan’t talking about blowjobs and Congressional witch hunts.

For Dubya, the White House press corp has been far more than a captive audience---they’ve been braindead stenographers. Witness Ms. Miller and Mr. Gannon (or whatever his damn name is).

It’s only in the past couple of months, as the bodies keep piling up and more lies are exposed, that they’ve started to grow a spine and a brain stem.

MI:

Respect has to be earned.

It’s only in the past couple of months, as the bodies keep piling up and more lies are exposed, that they’ve started to grow a spine and a brain stem.

What “lies”?

Lik is, of course, unworthy of serious response.

I can see right through these flimsy excuses.

But if he is truly this uneducated, it’s no wonder he supports the Bush regime.

Hmmm...no answer, huh?

Respect does have to be earned, indeed. But there’s this little thing called “decorum” that is increasingly forgotten by extreme partisans. And conveniently excused by cowards too afraid to stand up and call them on their immature behavior.

What “lies”?

Lik is, of course, unworthy of serious response. But if he is truly this uneducated, it’s no wonder he supports the Bush regime.

For Dubya, the White House press corp has been far more than a captive audience—they’ve been braindead stenographers. Witness Ms. Miller and Mr. Gannon (or whatever his damn name is).

I guess in your world, David Gregory and Helen Thomas are Bush drones.

There’s bitterly partisan. And then there’s Don Myers.

But there’s this little thing called “decorum” that is increasingly forgotten by extreme partisans.

Absolutely.  That still doesn’t address the question of only allowing partisan supporters into the hall.

Lik is, of course, unworthy of serious response. But if he is truly this uneducated, it’s no wonder he supports the Bush regime.

I think you’re missing the point of the question, Don.  There are so many lies that have come out of the White House; which ones in particular are you referencing?

Brandon:

I guess in your world, anyone who ISN’T a Bush drone is the enemy.

Personally, I’d rather have a truly independent press instead of one that merely retypes Bush regime press releases and calls it “news.” You would clearly prefer the Bush drones.

Don Myers said, I guess in your world, anyone who ISN’T a Bush drone is the enemy.

When you’re done making up your own reality, we’ll be over here waiting for you.

modern instances said, I think you’re missing the point of the question, Don. There are so many lies that have come out of the White House; which ones in particular are you referencing?

Oh pray tell. Why be cryptic?

Yawn - Pavlov’s Dog is back with his 4 canned comments.

My point is that the events are not taking place for the sake of hearing what the audience has to say.  The events are to hear the President speak.  Every word he speaks is widely reported on in the media, so what does it matter who is in the audience?

Why don’t you just admit it MI?  You just want to see the President get heckled.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Absolutely. That still doesn’t address the question of only allowing partisan supporters into the hall.

I think the “Bush only lets partisan supporters in the hall” thing is a farce.  When Bush came to North Dakota I know at least half a dozen far-left citizens who got their tickets and went in with no problems (one wearing a John Kerry t-shirt).  There were some people denied entry to that event in Fargo, but it later came to light that they’d been planning some sort of disruption in the forums of their website.

In order for us to buy into this meme we have to believe that people are being denied their free speech when they are ejected from or not allowed into Bush speaking events.  They’re not.  These events are for the President to address the nation, not the people to address the President.  What does it matter if the hall is filled with partisan supporters or MoveOn.org people?  Aside from the fact that the MoveOn.org people probably wouldn’t even let the President speak.

All manner of dissent is allowed outside these events, but inside its the President’s time.  Free speech is alive and well in this country.  This controversy over the President’s events is a silly canard perpetuated by bitter partisans who just want to see the President get heckled.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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In order for us to buy into this meme we have to believe that people are being denied their free speech when they are ejected from or not allowed into Bush speaking events. They’re not.

So, all kinds of people are getting in . . .

What does it matter if the hall is filled with partisan supporters or MoveOn.org people? . . . All manner of dissent is allowed outside these events, but inside its the President’s time.

What’s with the “admit it” stuff?  Unless you’re joking, in which case, I will share a hearty guffaw.

Every word he speaks is widely reported on in the media, so what does it matter who is in the audience?

Exactly!  Every word he speaks will be heard or read, so why do they care so much about who is in the audience?

Leaders have been heckled and caricatured since time immemorial.  On the previous version of this site, to show him in a negative light, you displayed a quote from Bill Clinton that was a response to hecklers.  Why did you glorify Clinton’s hecklers but condemn any potential hecklers of Bush?

When Bush came to North Dakota I know at least half a dozen far-left citizens who got their tickets and went in with no problems (one wearing a John Kerry t-shirt). There were some people denied entry to that event in Fargo, but it later came to light that they’d been planning some sort of disruption in the forums of their website.

Not that I can blame Bush for it. If I were the president, I’d do the exact same thing. It would be the equivalent of you banning all liberals from your blog--it’s chicken shit, but it serves a purpose.

Exactly! Every word he speaks will be heard or read, so why do they care so much about who is in the audience?

I don’t know.  Maybe because the so many on the left are totally deranged when it comes to this President?  Maybe they want the other attendees to be able to enjoy the President’s speech with out watching five screeching moonbats get carted off by the Secret Service.

Leaders have been heckled and caricatured since time immemorial. On the previous version of this site, to show him in a negative light, you displayed a quote from Bill Clinton that was a response to hecklers. Why did you glorify Clinton’s hecklers but condemn any potential hecklers of Bush?

That Clinton handled a heckler with a bit of grace and humor is fine, but why does that mean President Bush must expose himself to hecklers?  If Clinton had evidence that somebody was going to cause a problem before they came in I’d have no problem with him blockig their entrance.

But other people have been denied entry just because of bumper stickers on their car, or ACLU cards in their wallet.

You know, I hear a lot about this stuff, but I never see it substantiated.  Outside of the claims of those who were allegedly denied access and their allies.

Not that I can blame Bush for it. If I were the president, I’d do the exact same thing. It would be the equivalent of you banning all liberals from your blog–it’s chicken shit, but it serves a purpose.

But you see, that’s a total nonsense point.  You do not attend a Presidential speech for the purposes of dissent.  You attend to listen to what the President has to say.  You cannot equate a Presidential speech to the comments on this blog.

There are ways for you to express your dissent.  You don’t need to scream it out in the middle of his speech.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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This is certainly the most notorious example (and the one for which a lawsuit is pending, if I’m not mistaken), Rob, and I’m sure they have links to similar occurrences.

This is certainly the most notorious example (and the one for which a lawsuit is pending, if I’m not mistaken), Rob, and I’m sure they have links to similar occurrences.

At worst that situation is the result of some truth-stretching by some partisan activitsts.  At best it is the result of some unilateral action by an overzealous event staffer.

Hardly convincing of the “captive audiences” meme.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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