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So very True.

Well of course those who respond from Iraq are optimistic. Can you say “Emotionally invested”?

I knew you could.

No one likes to think the work he has volunteered to do is useless.

Well of course those who respond from Iraq are optimistic. Can you say “Emotionally invested”?

I knew you could.

No one likes to think the work he has volunteered to do is useless.

Nice excuse. I don’t buy it. The re-enlistment rate is too high for it to be true.

The liberal media is a myth.

Is that why about 90 percent of the reporters self identify as a liberal and/or a Democrat? Just a myth, right?

A myth perpetuated by conservatives, who feel that anything that’s not as extremist as Rush Limbaugh reeks of liberal bias.

What makes Rush Limbaugh “extremist”?

People are pessimistic about Iraq because of the high casualty rate...

“High casualty rate”? You’re kidding me. Around 2,000 American soldiers and Marines have died in over two and a half years, halfway across the world. That’s remarkably low.

...and the small matter of Bush/Cheney LYING to garner support fot this misadventure.

What did they lie about?

The best part is, the media behave like compliant lap-dogs, refusing to call out elected officials on what’s going on, and essentially behaving as shills for the government.

That’s hilarious. Where do you get your material?

The media pounds nothing but negative news about Iraq down our throats day after day, completley ignoring and/or downplaying the positive stuff, and then they act as though its some sort of surprise that the average American, who only gets his/her news from the pervasively negative media, thinks we can’t win Iraq.

They’ve made this a self-fulfilling prophecy.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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The liberal media is a myth. A myth perpetuated by conservatives, who feel that anything that’s not as extremist as Rush Limbaugh reeks of liberal bias. People are pessimistic about Iraq because of the high casualty rate, the rampant terrorism, and the small matter of Bush/Cheney LYING to garner support fot this misadventure.

If Clinton were president, and had gone to war based on intelligence that was known to be faulty, the right-wing loonies would be yammering about it non-stop and likely calling for another impeachment attempt.

Apparently modern-day Republicans are so ignorant of history, that they forget the Republican party was founded on the concepts of fiscal responsiblity, conservation of natural resources, and keeping our noses out of other countries’ affairs. Thanks to the myopic policies of modern-day Neo-Cons, all that has been thrown out the window in favor of a quasi-fascist ideology that involves running up unmanageable debt, meddling extensively in other countries’ affairs, and wastefully burning through natural resources.

The best part is, the media behave like compliant lap-dogs, refusing to call out elected officials on what’s going on, and essentially behaving as shills for the government.

If Clinton were president, and had gone to war based on intelligence that was known to be faulty, the right-wing loonies would be yammering about it non-stop and likely calling for another impeachment attempt.

Very true.  In the 94 mid-term elections, the GOP won control of congress on the “angry white male” vote, yet 10 years later, when people criticize the Republican-controlled government, being angry isn’t so acceptable anymore. 

But back to the original post: where is the poll of Americans in Iraq that documents their optimism?

Very true. In the 94 mid-term elections, the GOP won control of congress on the “angry white male” vote...

Stoke racial hatred.

...yet 10 years later, when people criticize the Republican-controlled government, being angry isn’t so acceptable anymore.

Oh bullshit. Just make sure that your criticism makes sense and matches up to reality. Okay?

One more once. Show me a poll with at least 1 million respondents and then I might take it seriously. Also, poll people who might, possibly, have a clue about the subject in question. Till then, give it a rest! They are at best political demagoguery, at worst propagandistic BS. And somebody please tell Carol I am attempting to restrain my potty-mouth. With all that I have been reading in the international media, that is proving difficult!

The media pounds nothing but negative news about Iraq down our throats day after day, completley ignoring and/or downplaying the positive stuff

Tell me about it. Did you hear ANY stories about the Iraqi election?

Tell me about it. Did you hear ANY stories about the Iraqi election?

Did you hear any about the recent Afghani one?

Not really…

It was buried.

Part of that “right wing media” thing, I’m sure.

Tell me about it. Did you hear ANY stories about the Iraqi election?

And what about the Iraqi constitution?  I mean, the Shia and Kurds pass it without the help of the Sunni, thank you very much, but do they get the front page?  Nooooo!  We’ll see if it gets any coverage when they vote for ratification.

Who here has actually set foot in the newsroom of a major news outlet?  Foobaka?  Anyone?  Frye?  Beuller?  Bee-oo-ler?

Cause I remember clearly - walking through the newsroom the day after the 2004 election results were announced - and one of the editors said:

“I can’t believe our people in Ohio gave up so easily.”

HINT:  It wasn’t Fox News Channel

So one editor was a Democrat? Wow!

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Does anyone else find it ironic that the groups of people who are the most optimistic about the future of Iraq are U.S. soldiers and Iraqi citizens who spend every single day in Iraq? Meanwhile those most pessimistic are people who have never set foot in Iraq and are 100% reliant on the liberal media for their information.

Does anyone else find it ironic that the groups of people who are the most optimistic about the future of the Chicago Cubs are the fans and players who spend every day following that team? Meanwhile those most pessimistic are people who have never set foot in Wrigley Field and are 100% reliant on news, statistics, and expert analysis for their information.

Meanwhile those most pessimistic are people who have never set foot in Wrigley Field and are 100% reliant on news, statistics, and expert analysis for their information.

Your examples don’t compare. “100% reliant on news, statistics, and expert analysis” doesn’t describe the liberal media.

“Does anyone else find it ironic that the groups of people who are the most optimistic about the future of the Chicago Cubs are the fans and players who spend every day following that team? Meanwhile those most pessimistic are people who have never set foot in Wrigley Field and are 100% reliant on news, statistics, and expert analysis for their information”

You would have an excellent point if not for the fact that the national sports media does not openly cheer for the Cubs to fail. Sure the whole “Curse” business is good for them, but not in the way an Iraq War loss pays off for the liberal news media.

You would have an excellent point if not for the fact that the national sports media does not openly cheer for the Cubs to fail. Sure the whole “Curse” business is good for them, but not in the way an Iraq War loss pays off for the liberal news media.

Sources?

You appear to have very little respect for the reasoning powers of your fellow man--that is, they are so stupid they are incapable of spotting bias as easily as you.

You appear to have very little respect for the reasoning powers of your fellow man–that is, they are so stupid they are incapable of spotting bias as easily as you.

What? Where do you see that?

they are so stupid they are incapable of spotting bias as easily as you.

Actually I disagree. The spin put on by our media has made the phrase “Liberal Media” a redundant one at that. There really isn’t any need for the word “liberal” it is inferred.

Then Josh, do you disagree with the sentiments of the original poster? And if not, why do you think the majority of Americans in America oppose the war, while the majority of American soldiers in Iraq support it?

Because, judging from you post, if everyone knows the media is liberally biased, their bias would have impact none.

And if not, why do you think the majority of Americans in America oppose the war, while the majority of American soldiers in Iraq support it?

The majority of Americans oppose the war now? Since when?

Because, judging from you post, if everyone knows the media is liberally biased, their bias would have impact none.

Really? People all throughout history have known and recognized bias and yet it still affected them. Think of the Middle Ages where the bias in just about everything was heavily Christian for instance. Or look at the Middle East where the bias in everything is heavily Islamic. You don’t think that impacts on them in any way?

When will the day come when biased western reporters walk the streets of Iraq.
They used to do that.

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