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Blaming Bush For Katrina

Not surprising. This sort of thing is happening all over the political left. Even mainstream leftists like Bobby Kenned Jr., who you'd expect to cling to at least a vestige of sanity when in the public eye.

Contrary to popular leftist belief, the President is not evil. He does not enjoy seeing Americans drowned, injured or left homeless. If he could have looked into the future and seen this hurricane coming I'm sure he would have acted to save as many as he could.

Did Bush and other politicians make a mistake when they pulled funding from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers who were improving the levees and anti-flooding measures? Yes he did. But he wasn't alone in this mistake, the foolishness crossed party boundaries.

There is talk now about the war in Iraq being the reason for the Corps of Engineers budget short falls, but its not as simple as that. Our entire federal government has a spending problem. Recently our Congress passed a transportation bill that included $1.5 million for a bus stop in Anchorage, $223 million for a bridge connecting the mainland to an island with 50 inhabitants and funding for other projects just as inane. 410 members of the house and 91 members of the Senate voted for this spending. It would have taken a fraction of the $286.4 billion in spending encompassed in this legislation to fix the levies in New Orleans, yet a fraction of legislators voted against it.

What happened in New Orleans is not an indictment of the spending in Iraq, its an indictment of big government mentality and pork barrel spending in general. It is not a partisan issue, it is a cancer that infects this country's political system in general.

So lets set the partisanship aside and put the heat on all of our politicians in general.

Update:

Even the official Democrat blog is giving it to the Bush administration.

Something tells me that even if Condi, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld parachuted into New Orleans and started conducting rescue missions on their the Democrats would still be complaining.

This rank partisanship is despicable.

Remember when a crisis was seen as a time for the country to pull together? To set bickering aside and concentrate on the things that need to be done?

Apparently, for Democrats, petty political points are more important than a sense of unity.

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George W. Bush:

“I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees.”

Well GW didn’t, everybody else involved did.

The administration specifically cut the funds to fix these specific levees, in order to specifically divert that Corps money to Iraq, despite urgent warnings and predictions of catastrophic disaster if the levees were breeched.  The administration specifically cancelled the Clinton-backed flood control program to preserve and restore the wetlands between New Orleans and the gulf, instead specifically opening parts of that buffer zone for development.

Nobody anticipated this disaster? It was identified by FEMA as one of the top three likeliest major disasters to strike America.

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WOOF on September 1, 2005 at 01:10 pm
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I believe that pres. Bush pull the funding for the flood relief because the affected area is Urban areas.Mostly Afro-Americans/minority so bush is trying to turn his back on them.Why can’t the News station broadcast the hold story? why edit and cut the most Horrific/Shocking screen.People is suffering and needs help since yesterday and day before.
Thanks to the reporter and all the news station, people know what’s happening. Keep Reporting.
Blessings to all

Sam on September 1, 2005 at 02:09 pm
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sam, you need to contact Jesse Jackson. With a line of patter like that, he will hire you in a heart beat.

2Hotel9 on September 1, 2005 at 02:09 pm
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woofie, never miss a trick. Tricks are all you have. Having been raised in southern MS and having family in south LA and AL, I am familiar with the history of ACoE and the local political machines. Since the ‘50s the corps has been pushing for major changes and improvments in the flood control and levee system. Not just around New Orleans, in the entire Ms River basin. In the NO area money has been repeatedly diverted to tourist projects, marinas, the French Quarter Promenade along the river front, Six Flags, the list is endless. Remember the Worlds Fair in ‘84? Money for flood and levee maintence was used for that boondoggle, and never repayed. I understand that your tiny little mind can’t grasp any project that takes longer than 30 minutes, therefore you have no concept of a floodcontrol project that spans 25 years. Take a deep breath, hold your nose and blow real hard, you just might clear your mind and see just a small part of the rest of the world.

2Hotel9 on September 1, 2005 at 02:10 pm
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They didn’t cut funds for Iraq, they cut funds for 1.5 million dollar bus stops and other pork projects.

Its not a partisan issue, woof.


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Rob on September 1, 2005 at 03:09 pm
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Bush could not and did not cut the funds, presidents can’t do that. Only congress can. To say otherwise only proves how little understanding people have of government. He may have asked for more in his budget proposal or he may have asked for less but he doesn’t set the budget, he proposes it. If someone had some kind of evidence that the president vetoed a spending bill the claim might valid but to date he hasn’t vetoed a single spending bill.

bullwinkle on September 1, 2005 at 03:10 pm
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The locals were doing their part Hotel. You are the one looking up through the Big Muddy.

the 2004 hurricane season starting, the Corps’ project manager Al Naomi went before a local agency, the East Jefferson Levee Authority, and essentially begged for $2 million for urgent work that Washington was now unable to pay for. From the June 18, 2004 Times-Picayune:

The panel authorized that money, and on July 1, 2004, it had to pony up another $250,000 when it learned that stretches of the levee in Metairie had sunk by four feet. The agency had to pay for the work with higher property taxes. The levee board noted in October 2004 that the feds were also now not paying for a hoped-for $15 million project to better shore up the banks of Lake Pontchartrain

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Meanwhile, Woof, the politicians in congress were busy authorizing 1.5 million dollar bus stops in a bill that just about every damn legislator in Washington voted for.

Its not a partisan issue Woof, so stop trying.


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Rob on September 1, 2005 at 03:10 pm
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From WOOF’s article.

The agency had to pay for the work with higher property taxes.

As it should be.

Seth Yantiss on September 1, 2005 at 04:09 pm
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[...] Exactly the points I’ve been making. Read the whole thing. [...]

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the politicians in congress were busy authorizing 1.5 million dollar bus stops

It is a Republican congress. They call the tune.

WOOF on September 1, 2005 at 04:10 pm
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I am really sick of everybody blaming someone else for their misfortunes.  Everybody seems to think someone else owes them something for nothing.  Everybody complains when things don’t go their way and have been trained to believe that someone else should have prevented any disruption to their simple lives.

If you live in tornado alley, shouldn’t you have a basement?  If you live in the northern plains, shouldn’t you have a secondary source of heat and some food stored?  If you live in a fire zone, shouldn’t you clear trees from around your house? If you live in a flood plain, shouldn’t you put your house on stilts or at least have a boat?  If you live below sea level, shouldn’t you at least have a plan? 

Good lord, relying on the feds to do anything logical is really stupid in this day and age.  The people living below sea level should have found a way to pay for the levy themselves if it really was that critical and if it was somehow cut from the federal budget and money spent on stupid projects instead.  Cities ‘find’ millions for stadiums for rich morons, but planning ahead doesn’t occur to anybody anymore.  It is simple planning, simple prioritizing.  What is important in life?

Everybody looks to someone else to fix their problems when they should be looking in the mirror. 

Yes, natural disasters will continue to happen for the end of time, and yes, the government should assist in emergencies and prevention, but the people themselves have to shoulder some of the responsibility as well.

RJacksonB on September 1, 2005 at 05:10 pm
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[...] The left, which has gone into full-on political/Bush-bashing mode over this hurricane, will totally ignore these statements in favor of pushing their own theories, which largely seem to consist of nefarious plots hatched by Bush to steal funding for the levees away for the war in Iraq while simultaneously increasing the chances that areas not likely to vote Republican in elections would be destroyed by flood waters. [...]

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[...] The left is taking full advantage of Katrina for their Bush-bashing agenda. All of their theories so far basically revolve around Bush “stealing” money away from the New Orleans levee system to fund the war in Iraq. [...]

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Sam spit out, I believe that pres. Bush pull the funding for the flood relief because the affected area is Urban areas.Mostly Afro-Americans/minority so bush is trying to turn his back on them.Why can’t the News station broadcast the hold story?

What a disgusting view Sam.

WOOF said, It is a Republican congress. They call the tune.

Do you really think that because the Republicans hold Congress by a slim majority, they call all of the shots? You really think that is how it works WOOF?

likwidshoe on September 2, 2005 at 10:10 am
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Thanks, Rob.  I do try my best to point out that while people in New Orleans drowned, Condi was shoe-shopping in Manhattan (where, as Coulter says, they aren’t -real- Americans).

Ryan on September 2, 2005 at 01:09 pm
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Something tells me that even if Condi, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld parachuted into New Orleans and started conducting rescue missions on their the Democrats would still be complaining.

If Condi does parachute down, she’ll be wearing some absolutely fabulous new shoes.

Ryan on September 2, 2005 at 01:10 pm
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Bitter sniping.  Way to add to the conversation Ryan.


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Right.  Because hurricane response is the Sec. of State’s job.

You’re being pretty naive Ryan, but I can’t tell if you’re ignoring reality in an effort to score cheap political points (which isn’t working) or if you’re legitimately this dumb.


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Rob on September 2, 2005 at 08:10 pm
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Bush deserves to be “getting it” from left, right, and everyone in between.  His handling of this crisis has been incompetent, at best.

moderninstances on September 3, 2005 at 05:10 am
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Bush deserves to be “getting it” from left, right, and everyone in between. His handling of this crisis has been incompetent, at best.

What do you expect him to do?

If you are looking to assign blame, start here and work your way up.

likwidshoe on September 3, 2005 at 08:10 am
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we uncover the facts and point out the truth, you systematicly discredit everything we bring to the table.  you must feel that you have one some war of words (word obviously is a criterion of logic for you smucks anyway) as if by making the equation seem equal to your perspective soley by the use of symbols means something. The word is much more powerfull than what can be printed or defined or combined or calculated.  It allows the majority or even minimaly educated people to think.  Thus is the public opinion born and it is the truth for the majority based on that, not on the rules of wasp semantics and language that have evolved as nothing more than tools to IMPRISON, CAPITALIZE, and CONTROL.  anyway.  thats why you see negative stuff about your nazi heros on TV all the time.  its not because the media is left.  thats the biggest load of crznap i’ve ever heard.  they may be progresive, but good lord people don’t you know who owns these companies.  these media companies sold this country on war.  they are some of the most racist and manipulative corprate whores that exist.  you think they’re going to let anything that is really revolutionary onto the air.  if the media was liberal it would challenge economic models and whole goverment structures.  not this petty bickering you call left and right.  in conclusion, i can only ask you:  do you really think people are so stupid that they can’t see the truth.  i reiterate that you can DEFEND it with WORDS anyway you like, but words won’t stop a stampede. have fun disecting and discrediting and RE-INTERPRETING you nazi scum.  those who know can see, those who don’t don’t.

ass inefk blainenbushcckdize's on September 3, 2005 at 03:10 pm
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Awwww...let’s all look at “ass inefk blainenbushcckdize’s”. Isn’t he cute?

Run away now little kid.

likwidshoe on September 3, 2005 at 04:09 pm
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How about Bush and other Federal officials blaming the locals for this debacle?

How low can one go? I had seen from day one the Mayor of New orleans asking for everything.

It is dispicable for the Federal officials to lay the blame at the door of the local officials in order to deflect criticism rightly meant for the Feds.

Cheers.

Gabe.

Gabe on September 5, 2005 at 10:10 am
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How about Bush and other Federal officials blaming the locals for this debacle?

I wonder why they would do that.

How low can one go? I had seen from day one the Mayor of New orleans asking for everything.

Why didn’t he try to help himself first?

It is dispicable for the Federal officials to lay the blame at the door of the local officials in order to deflect criticism rightly meant for the Feds.

Why? Where is your argument?

likwidshoe on September 5, 2005 at 04:09 pm
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rob that look in your eyes on your pic is priceless.............for me to nut on!

carl on September 5, 2005 at 09:09 pm
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you can point the gun but we don’t run.  maybe you will when the shit go’s down.  its hard to say.  hard like your nipples on your tiny breasts.  riboflavin may help.  i don’t know i’d have to see them up close but that may take a government microscope.....and you know I’m one of those smart people who don’t really trust the gov.  how’s the weather out there sucking on that racist capital gains penis head.  does it taste salty....you can’t taste it?  oh...well keep on sucking.  you too Rob.  i’ll poke your eyeball sucka.  oh is that a threat damm i forgot you like to call the police.....never learned what happens to rats i guess.  oh well.  i like to think maybe i’ve match brokered you two little capitalists.  lik wid shoe and rob!  what a couple.  maybe if you hooked and fuck the shit out eachothers brains you would think clearer!  bye bye bed time!

carl on September 5, 2005 at 09:09 pm
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get some blusant likwid shoe.  you titties b small.  herbal remedy girl.  call me.  323 938 1678

carl on September 5, 2005 at 09:10 pm
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hey likwid shoe.  nice response to balinebushwhatever i used as my name to lazy to apple c apple v it.  run away you skinny midwest crack ho.  out here in the west you better be a quick draw if you wanna flash a pistol on the lane.  let me tell you girl....nobody fucks with the jesus....and by the look of the picture and your frigid atitude....nobody must fuck you either.  oh well.  how about response, you sound like a little kid.  run away.  naw its my country.  you nazi’s don’t quite get it yet.  at least this katrina sitch is opening eyes!  if you don’t destroy the education system in this country fast enough we’ll probably be able to flip the script within the next fifteen years.  make of that what you want tweeker ho.  get a better pic.  i’d put one up but my Che jpeg is busy right now.  remember ho, its the right hand brother man!

carl on September 5, 2005 at 09:10 pm
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before i go to bed.....cheney knocked down the towers....and oh yeah....obvioulsy he didn’t do it with his bare hands.  adios cunados.  its been a blast (detonators not planes) oh he’s so cute with verbs and nouns he’s nice.  what a true player from the club.  rub a dub and smoke it in the tub like lebowski...you clam chowdery fake word play no bettah den shank town gibbers.  whats the word now....don;t make sense now?  the majority is never right, it takes fifty years for the majority to be right and then they are never right.....except--except that the majority of the world knows one thing...whats that chorus “CHENEY KNOCKED DOWN THE TOWERS” good old washing dick suck cheney my nazi hero of the day.  yall can’t defend this.  all your responses lack HEART and TRUTH because your line is crap.  shite to get all british about (co conspirators) conspiracy theroy was created by the conspirators to discredit the minority.  major leagues are for players only.  long live all you bastards.

carl on September 5, 2005 at 09:10 pm
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and as usual....spell check all this shit for me right now you nazi scum....that’s an order from your fuerer.  and whatever happened to that blue hat gotee fuck i used to play with....come on dube.  went back to fourth grade i guess.  oh well study hard in history.  truth and lies are always tangled up together.

carl on September 5, 2005 at 09:10 pm
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carl‘s got major dysfunctions. Poor soul.

likwidshoe on September 5, 2005 at 10:10 pm
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’I do try my best to point out that while people in New Orleans drowned, Condi was shoe-shopping in Manhattan ‘

Right now while someone is dying I am typing.

ICallMasICM on September 6, 2005 at 09:10 am
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Can we ban this guy yet?

Seth Yantiss on September 6, 2005 at 09:10 am
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nope souls are for christian dogs.....did you google blusant.  i swear to mo zhi it will increase bust bla bla bla bla bla size bla bla bla bla bla you really offer me nothing entertaining to respond to bla bla bla im over this bs.  its the rind of the cantelope and ya’ll a bucnh seed eating astro turf super sucker clucker 8 mm moviola cranking pragmatists.  okay that was kinda fun but really its just bla bla bla bla bla bla.....i give up.  you guys play the word game i’ll smoke the herb kay?  bla bla bla on forever if you must.  stimulation is minimal like likwids tiny nipples so while you peeps keeps blathering bla bla bla is going to return to the UNDERGROUND and get back to work on the real deal bla bla.....beware the 25 hour....the return of VHS.  its rap.  it was fun.  keep it up.  i won’t.  gotta go 4 good.  you’ll like that.  well happy birthday.  remember that those who read our exchange will be the one’s who make the descions on who to actualy judge as a fucko.  not us.  it was phun though.  blusant.

carl on September 6, 2005 at 09:10 am
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carl, in the words of Nashville Pussy, you give drugs a bad name.

modern instances on September 6, 2005 at 10:09 am
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Right. Because hurricane response is the Sec. of State’s job.

You’re being pretty naive Ryan, but I can’t tell if you’re ignoring reality in an effort to score cheap political points (which isn’t working) or if you’re legitimately this dumb.

The SecState handles offers of assistance from foreign nations, Rob.  But far be it from me to distract you from the name-calling.

Ryan on September 6, 2005 at 12:09 pm
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MI:  Strangely, I have seen NashP a couple of times.  They tour with the Rev ( Reverend Horton Heat) periodically.  I am a huge RHH fan.

RJacksonB on September 6, 2005 at 01:10 pm
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carl on September 6, 2005 at 02:09 pm
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Right now while someone is dying I am typing.

And that someone is black. You racist!!!!!

Dave on September 6, 2005 at 02:09 pm
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The first time I saw Nashville Pussy they opened for the Rev.  He plays detroit about every 6 months, probably seen RHH a dozen times.  NP hasn’t been back to town, though.  NP falls in naturally for an AC/DC fan.

moderninstances on September 6, 2005 at 03:09 pm
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Open letter to all American adults:
Please take responsibility for your life and your actions!  You are not a baby that needs to be care for forever.

If you eat too much, you will get fat and have heart disease, high blood pressure, and a variety of other medical problems.  This is your choice.

If you smoke, you will probably get lung cancer, emphysema, and die. Quit Smoking!

If you travel to or live in the Middle East, you are always in danger.  This is a fact of life.  Don’t go there. If you do, don’t expect to be rescued from your own stupidity. 

I could go on, but you get the idea.  Quit blaming others for everything that is going on around you.  You need look no further than in the nearest mirror.

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