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Tuesday, August 30, 2005

Water Risin’ Means Time To Loot Some Beer

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Beer Looter


A looter carries a bucket of beer out of a grocery store in New Orleans on Tuesday, Aug. 30, 2005, as floodwaters continue to rise in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina made landfall on Monday. (AP Photo/Dave Martin)


Hope he enjoys it, the schmuck.

Update:

Things are progressing beyond simple looting. There's a prison riot as well as reports of a police shoot out.

It almost makes you want to lose faith in humanity that people, in the face of what is already a terrible tragedy, would act this way. In the prison riot situation, though, its hard to tell if they're rioting because they see an opportunity to be free or because the mayor ignored the fact that they're locked down in the middle of a natural disaster.

Update:

Now looters have attacked a children's hospital.

Update:

Its being reported that cops and firemen have joined in the looting in some instances as well.

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Hope he enjoys it.

??? Hope he chokes and dies on it, scumbag....

Sphagnum on August 30, 2005 at 07:08 pm
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City falling down about you? Flood waters rising? Social chaos? Time to grab a Hinie.

Sad. Sad. Sad.

Seth Williams on August 30, 2005 at 07:09 pm
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Beer saves lives. You gotta drink.

WOOF on August 30, 2005 at 08:08 pm
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sad? no way! hilarious. Seriously, he’s swiping tainted parishables. The whole store is submerged underwater; their complete inventory (and then some) is a write off. Guy knows how to make the most of a bad situation if you ask me. I’d be tempted to join him for one until my own house wasn’t underwater.

Charles Mingus on August 30, 2005 at 08:09 pm
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The police and National Guard need to get the looting scene under control asap. New Orleans is thisclose to becoming a cross between a pre-Wyatt Earp Dodge City and the Manhattan from Escape From New York.

This is really, really awful.

Alex Nunez on August 30, 2005 at 10:09 pm
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And on a related note, Rob, is there any reason you wrote the title of this post in AAVE? Just wondering…

Dave on August 30, 2005 at 11:08 pm
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There will be a rash of food poisining from contaminated goods, whether looted or"found". A just reward for stupidity. And as for the piece at DKos, the people who are in charge of news services always show this bias, and turn around and call ME a racist.

2Hotel9 on August 31, 2005 at 04:08 am
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He and every other looter should be shot on sight.

Seth Yantiss on August 31, 2005 at 04:09 am
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Looters?

Ha!  Damn that racist, liberal media....

Sphagnum on August 31, 2005 at 05:08 am
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He and every other looter should be shot on sight.

How can you be so callous? Do you not understand that this is a worse disaster than 9/11? Do you have any idea how petty it is to worry about looters right now? Good God, a million people have lost their homes, and you’re worried about guys stealing beer?

Dave on August 31, 2005 at 05:09 am
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He and every other looter should be shot on sight.

There is a National Guard recruitment drive.

WOOF on August 31, 2005 at 05:09 am
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Dave, worrying about looters is anything but petty, and every step should be taken to get them under control, including use of the military. The looters will become more bold and move on to residential area if they are allowed to run unchecked.

It’s not just beer and incidentals that are being stolen. People are stealing anything they can get their hands on. This is complete lawlwssness, and it makes an already dangerous situation even more dangerous.

If the government can get the looters under control, then they may be doing them a favor in the long run. It’s only a matter of time before home and business owners start blowing these people away because they fear for their own lives.

Alex Nunez on August 31, 2005 at 06:09 am
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He is rescuing the beer.

ICallMasICM on August 31, 2005 at 07:08 am
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Alex, you’re giving the ambulance a speeding ticket.

Dave on August 31, 2005 at 07:08 am
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With all due respect, Dave. You’re wrong.

The looters are a danger to themselves, other residents still stuck in NO, and the police and military on scene.

Or does the cop getting shot by looters yesterday not count?

Alex Nunez on August 31, 2005 at 08:09 am
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With all due respect…

Now listen, there’s a thousand things that have to happen in order. We are on number eight. You’re talking about number six hundred and ninety-two.” -Jim Lovell

Dave on August 31, 2005 at 09:09 am
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Dave,

How can you be so callous?

It’s easy.  I think about the owner of the store.  Then I extrapolate what happens to empty homes, jewlery stores, etc.  The I try to picture the faces of the home/store owners when they arrive back on their property to realize that, not only did the storm wipe out a lot of their possesions, but then their homes were invaded and ripped off of what was left.  It’s not hard to wish these looters dead.

Do you not understand that this is a worse disaster than 9/11? Do you have any idea how petty it is to worry about looters right now? Good God, a million people have lost their homes, and you’re worried about guys stealing beer?

I’m not worried about people steeling beer… but where is the line?

Do the millions who have lost their homes also have to loose whatever is left in their homes?

Seth Yantiss on August 31, 2005 at 10:09 am
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I’ll agree to disagree. The Lovell quote is applicable, but it doesn’t change my view that the looters need to be controlled.

When they start draining out residential neighborhoods (hopefully they can make some progress soon), the looters will head there next, and add insult to the injury already suffered by residents.

Alex Nunez on August 31, 2005 at 10:09 am
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AAVE

What’s AAVE?


When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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Rob on August 31, 2005 at 03:09 pm
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Dave on August 31, 2005 at 03:09 pm
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Bad english or ebonics is what i call it… Ebonics is a better word i think cause it makes you sounds stupid saying it, let alone using the “language"…

Sphagnum on August 31, 2005 at 06:08 pm
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Instead of dignifying it with a fancy label giving it a politically correct label, I’d rather call “AAVE” what it really is: bad English.

Seth Williams on August 31, 2005 at 06:08 pm
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Yeah, I teach English as a second language, so I tend to be more alert for errors in grammar than most people (although, I sure can’t ever seem to find my own mistakes). It makes my teeth itch when someone butchers their first language.

Ve haf vays of making you conjugate... --The Grammar Nazi

Seth Williams on August 31, 2005 at 06:08 pm
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Nope, I can’t even go that far. Giving it a label like “Ebonics” is just putting cake frosting on a turd cake; it puts an ok face on a lousy thing.

Seth Williams on August 31, 2005 at 06:09 pm
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Nope, I can’t even go that far. Giving it a label like “Ebonics” is just putting cake frosting on a turd cake; it puts an ok face on a lousy thing.

What are you, some kind of english nazi?

ENGLISH NAZI!  NO EBONICS FOR YOU!!!

Sphagnum on August 31, 2005 at 06:09 pm
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Bad english or ebonics is what i call it

Sorry; African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) is pretty much the more official word for “ebonics.” But that debate is for a different day, in a different forum, by different people (e.g., cunning linguists). wink

The more pertinent issue is why the author gave this story such a curious title. Is it related to the reasons why African-Americans “loot” groceries while Caucasians “find” them in Alabama? (http://sayanythingblog.com/2005/08/31/racist-hurricane-coverage/)

Dave on August 31, 2005 at 07:09 pm
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Dave,

(e.g., cunning linguists)

Obscure Deep Purple reference?  wink

Seth Yantiss on September 1, 2005 at 03:10 am
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Actually, the title was a reflection of my own vernacular which is, contrary to the way I write, sort of redneck.  I say things like “I seen that guy before” a lot.  Sometimes when I’m trying to impart a whimsical or off-the-cuff mood to a post I do stuff like that.

Plus, I’ve been listening to Cash’s Five Feet High and Risin’ a lot lately.  It was an unconscious choice, but if you want to use to brand me a racist go ahead.  It’d be foolish, though, as I’m about as far from that as you can get.

Sometimes I think people read too much into this stuff.


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Joaquin Phoenix, that’s it.

I think he was a good choice.


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Rob on September 1, 2005 at 06:09 pm
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Oh yes.  The film looks excellent.

Who did I just read was going to play Cash?  I’m forgetting now…


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Rob on September 1, 2005 at 06:09 pm
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Realizing you have a problem is the first step to getting better.

By the way, I’m a huge Cash fan, and excited as hell about the new film comming out. Giddy like a schoolgirl.

Seth Williams on September 1, 2005 at 06:10 pm
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Sometimes I think people read too much into this stuff.

Clearly, Rob is trying to imply that minorities don’t have good reading comprehension. I can do the Google searches to prove it.

RACIST!!!

Seth Williams on September 1, 2005 at 06:10 pm
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You’ve caught me Seth.

Oh, the shame!  Outed on my own blog…


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Rob on September 1, 2005 at 06:10 pm
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Not to resurrect this thread, but Dave, so much for the idea that concentrating on looters early on was unimportant.

It has gone from looting to outright lawlessness. Murder. Rape. All of it. It is going to basically require a full-scale military operation to subdue the lunatics wreaking havoc and save the people who are now essentially being held hostage in New Orleans.

Alex Nunez on September 2, 2005 at 06:09 am
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I’m gonna have to officially retract my previous statement:

Hope he chokes and dies on it, scumbag…

After much contemplation about what I would do were I in such a situation, I have come to the conclusion that I have no right to condemn anyone for taking anything that is going to be consumed or eaten.  Beer or otherwise, were in in the Hell that has become New Orleans, I would rummage through whatever I could eat and drink to stay alive.  And if I wanted a few beers to kick back and try to relax as much as possible for a while, who are you to say I can’t…

It’s all going to be expired by the time the real owners come back anyway… Better to drink it now than throw it away later…

Sphagnum on September 2, 2005 at 12:09 pm
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It has gone from looting to outright lawlessness. Murder. Rape. All of it. It is going to basically require a full-scale military operation to subdue the lunatics wreaking havoc and save the people who are now essentially being held hostage in New Orleans.

It does seem to have gotten much, much worse than I had originally believed (that is, judging by the media coverage, for whatever that’s worth). I just fear that the first looter shot by a National Guardsman will turn out to be Franz Ferdinand.

Dave on September 5, 2005 at 11:09 pm
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Don’t worry Dave, I have it on good authority that all undead European royalty were evacuated well in advance of the storm. So there’s little chance of Austria-Hungary invading Louisiana.

Seth Williams on September 6, 2005 at 12:10 am
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I’ve been reading in the papers that quite a few looters have already been shot, with no serious counter-attacks, so it looks like my fears were misguided.

Dave on September 6, 2005 at 01:10 pm
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