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Saturday, July 16, 2005

Paul Begala Goes Off The Deep End

Good grief.

(CNSNews.com) - Young liberals this week flocked to the nation's capital to hear, among other things, liberal television pundit and Democrat political strategist Paul Begala accuse Republicans of wanting to kill him and his children to preserve tax cuts for the rich.

Begala was featured at the first-ever Campus Progress National Student Conference, which was designed to provide campus liberals with the tools necessary to fight the conservative movement. The event also drew former President Bill Clinton, for whom Begala once worked as an advisor.

A panel discussion entitled "Winning the War of Ideas" centered on topics discussed in the book "What's the Matter with Kansas" by Thomas Frank and detailed the challenges that Democrats face in persuading voters in the American heartland and elsewhere to embrace their agenda and support their candidates.

Begala's presence on the panel created a stir when he declared that Republicans had "done a p***-poor job of defending" the U.S.

Republicans, he said, "want to kill us.

"I was driving past the Pentagon when that plane hit" on Sept. 11, 2001. "I had friends on that plane; this is deadly serious to me," Begala said.

"They want to kill me and my children if they can. But if they just kill me and not my children, they want my children to be comforted -- that while they didn't protect me because they cut my taxes, my children won't have to pay any money on the money they inherit," Begala said. "That is bulls*** national defense, and we should say that."

The Clinton administration's national security efforts involved the right blend of "experience" and "strength," Begala said, an assertion with which the 9/11 Commission apparently disagreed.


A bit shocking, but hardly surprising. This is the level of political discourse Howard Dean and his ilk have brought the Democrats down to. After all, what do you expect when you say to the nation that Republicans are "evil" and that you "hate them," as Howard Dean has done?

As I've said before, we need more from the Democrats than hateful invective.

Audio available here.

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This is the level of political discourse Howard Dean and his ilk have brought the Democrats down to.

I agree. Paul Begala is a “major league a$$hole” who can go “f*ck himself”.

Dave on July 16, 2005 at 12:07 pm
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Paul isn’t that stupid to actually believe that and the ‘clinton’ folk are usually much better at carefully choosing words.  Something else is going on.

This is my guess, and it is only a guess.  As he was ‘preaching to the converted’ who blindly accept everything word for word from select sources, he was instilling a fresh dose of anger into the core base.  Nothing unites a group like common hatred, and keeping the left angry is vital for the party to remain united.  Remember, power for the party is the only goal.  Screw everything else, the ends justify the means.  He is simply rallying the troops as the Rove thing is losing steam (or like me, totally confused and lost me).

To be fair, you can make a case for similar tactics on the right.  Hillary and select others can get under the skin of the right and create a similar uniting anger. 

You can take this one step further and argue that the intense anger on the left (and right) is artificially generated and designed to keep the masses distracted from real issues.  It is all marketing hype.

RJacksonB on July 16, 2005 at 02:08 pm
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WOULDN’T IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR ANY U.S. PRESIDENT, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN GIVE THE FOLLOWING SPEECH?
My Fellow Americans: As you all know, the defeat of Iraq regime has been completed.
Since congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our mission in Iraq is complete.
This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces from Iraq. This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now to begin the reckoning.

Before me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short. The United Kingdom, Spain, Bulgaria, Australia, and Poland are some of the countries listed there.

The other list contains everyone not on the first list. Most of the world’s nations are on that list. My press secretary will be distributing copies of both lists later this evening.

Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved during the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraqi war.

The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world Hell-holes and watch those government leaders grow fat on corruption.

Need help with a famine? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France.

In the future, together with Congress, I will work to redirect this money toward solving the vexing social problems we still have at home. On that note, a word to terrorist organizations. Screw with us and we will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your friends from the face of the earth.

Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France, or maybe China.
I am ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France, Germany, and Russia. Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring from NATO as well. Bon chance, mes amis.

I have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid parking tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded and crushed. I don’t care about whatever treaty pertains to this. You creeps have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those tickets tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers and limos be turned over to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New York .

A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are likely to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not pissing us off for a change.

Mexico is also on List 2. President Fox and his entire corrupt government really need an attitude adjustment. I will have a couple extra tank and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to put em? Yep, border security. So start doing something with your oil.

Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA
treaty - starting now.

We are tired of the one-way highway. Immediately, we’ll be drilling for oil in Alaska - which will take care of this country’s oil needs for decades to come. If you’re an environmentalist who opposes this decision, I refer you to List 2 above: pick a country and move there. They care.

It is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens. Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying, “darn tootin.”

Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet. It is time to eliminate hunger in America It is time to eliminate homelessness in America.To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thanks guys. We owe you and we won’t forget.

To the nations on List 2, a final thought: You might want to learn to speak Arabic.
God bless America. Thank you and good night.
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.

(Please forward this to at least ten friends and see what happens! Let’s get this to every USA computer!)

son of America on July 17, 2005 at 04:07 am
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WOULDN’T IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR ANY U.S. PRESIDENT, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN GIVE THE FOLLOWING SPEECH?

If you define “great” as wanting to make ourselves a pariah in the global community, then yeah.

moderninstances on July 17, 2005 at 07:07 am
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Pariah?  our desire to say a collective fuck you to all the nations who find it so easy to take our money, but so hard to support us when we need them makes us pariahs?

So, what should we do? keep pandering to the liberal pussies who claim to want to defend freedom, but shy away from ANY AND ALL measures set forth to do so?

Or maybe, we could keep the leftish trash happy by cowtowing to the fucking terrorist filth that murdered innocent civilians, and we could become the next france. If you opt for this m.i., I sure hope they teach arabic where you live. Maybe you could fit that in with all the time you spend learning to put what other countries think of us over THE WELL-BEING AMERICA.

But, you obviously don’t have time to talk, what with all the apoligizing you have left to do.

son of America on July 17, 2005 at 07:08 am
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Boy, that’s some awfully strong Kool-aid you got there.

I live near Dearborn, MI, so thankfully, yes they do teach Arabic!  Lucky me!

moderninstances on July 17, 2005 at 12:07 pm
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moderninstances said to son of America, Boy, that’s some awfully strong Kool-aid you got there.

Not at all.  son of America’s post made a hell of a lot of sense.

I live near Dearborn, MI, so thankfully, yes they do teach Arabic! Lucky me!

It’s only too bad you’re not a foreign Muslim as well.  You have missed out on the game of seven year tax breaks for business.  Ever wonder how they own so many businesses so easily around that area?  They get a seven year tax break and when it is up, they transfer the ownership over to someone who just got off the boat.  It allows for no federal taxes in perpetuity.

likwidshoe on July 17, 2005 at 12:07 pm
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I’m normally a very well mannered individual who refrains from making mean-spirited or inflammatory statements.  But I’ve held my feelings in for far too long.  Son of America is a fucking idiot.  That’s all.

Andrew on July 17, 2005 at 04:08 pm
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I won’t go as far as Andrew, but most of that was pretty over-the-top.


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Rob on July 17, 2005 at 05:07 pm
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Andrew said, I’m normally a very well mannered individual who refrains from making mean-spirited or inflammatory statements. But I’ve held my feelings in for far too long. Son of America is a fucking idiot. That’s all.

Perhaps you would serve your message better if you could point out what you disagreed with in son of America’s post.

Rob said, I won’t go as far as Andrew, but most of that was pretty over-the-top.

Really?  What was over the top?  Because I agreed with every last bit of it.  I wouldn’t have gone off on moderninstances or posted it in a somewhat unrelated topic like that, but the over all message was point on.

likwidshoe on July 17, 2005 at 09:07 pm
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Ok,Ok I went a little over the top. I just simply cannot comprehend the notion of those who would put other countries’ perception of America over the saftey of the country itself.

And to those like fuckstick andrew, is it so terrible an idea to tell those degenerate countries that smear our reputation on the “global stage” (as M.I. referred to it) that they will get the same economical and military support that they so graciously DID NOT give us when we needed it? I mean, giving a helping hand is one thing, but if you keep putting that hand to those who would chop it off, pretty soon you run out of limbs.

In short, I think it is past time that someone start looking long term at the situation OUR country will be in, and save our generous nature for those who will acutually have enough fucking balls to fight by our side. I guarantee that the risk we would take by flexing a little muscle on the global stage far outweighs the consequence of twiddling our thumbs, hoping our generosity to cowardly shitholes like france and mexico doesn’t come back to bite us in the ass.

son of America on July 18, 2005 at 06:07 am
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Mea culpa aside, it’s obvious that SoA is simply seeking attention, and follows the George S. Patton school of communication: give it to ‘em loud and dirty.  The only response to such crudity is bemusement, as it can’t be taken seriously.

modern instances on July 18, 2005 at 07:07 am
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Quite insightful. 

I love it here.  Exactly for the reasons you cite.

modern instances on July 18, 2005 at 09:07 am
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M.I., your erudite comment reminds me of a quote by Rami Belson

“It’s better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you’re stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.”

In the meantime, I’ll lay off the cursing. I don’t want you telling your mommy on me. As for the crudity, that’s what happens when you give your blood sweat and tears for a country, only to come home and watch helplessly while armchair quarterbacks engage in America bashing. I lost a lot of good men for you and your ilk to have the right to spew verbal diarrhea about this country and its leader. So, I’m sorry if you feel the need to berate my crude language with the same tenacity that you berate our country.

If it’s all the same to you, I’ll just stick with the shorter version: if you don’t like it here, fuck you, move to France. They adore cowards.

Sincerely,

Son of America

son of America on July 18, 2005 at 09:07 am
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Begala’s presence on the panel created a stir when he declared that Republicans had “done a p***-poor job of defending” the U.S.

Republicans, he said, “want to kill us.

The man who wrote that article should be fired immediately, for grossly deceiving his readers and defaming this Paul Begala.

I have Begala’s actual comments. Here you go:

But I think we need to fight them on that. I think, frankly, they did a piss-poor job of defending us, and their strategy was always, “We’ll fight them over there so we don’t fight them here.” Well, guess what? [Osama] bin Laden didn’t get the memo. He wants to fight us here as well, as we saw in London last week. And so, their theory is: We can’t really do everything to protect our country because we have to cut taxes for the rich.

And so, it—they want to kill us, particularly in this city and New York and some other places. I was driving past the Pentagon when that plane hit. I had friends on that plane, this is deadly serious to me—they want to kill me and my children if they can.

Audio here:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200507200001

This is horrible. It is clear, crystal clear, that Begala said it was the terrorists, NOT the Republicans, who “want to kill us.” But the writer of that article took his words completely out of context to score some cheap political points.

Look, I hate Paul Begala as much as the next guy, but let’s focus on actual over-the-top statements, instead of invented ones, okay?

Dave on July 20, 2005 at 08:07 am
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The wonders of the faulty pronoun reference.

modern instances on July 20, 2005 at 09:08 am
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The wonders of the faulty pronoun reference.

And the wonders of the “liberal media”. They’re tricky, I tell ya’.

Dave on August 23, 2005 at 01:09 pm
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