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because “writing a letter”, in reality, doesn’t work.

Carl, your points are very well made, but this vandalism shit isn’t going to work.  It’s just going to piss off the American people and turn them against any kind of message these hoodlums think they’re making.

because “writing a letter”, in reality, doesn’t work. It says something when people get this pissed off at...not the country...but the people running the country. Have you yet to come to the conclusion that a VERY large number of people, here and abroad, want the government’s modus operandi that has been in effect for decades to stop? Are you aware that paperwork is not altering the corporate agenda? are you still seeing the official story as the real story? Do you believe the “polls”? Does the “news” cover all bases? Because this type of reaction isn’t based on the left or the right...it’s about doing away with distracting party games and profit motives and making the changes that need to be made at the foundation of the government. Legislation is controlled by a bunch of self-inclusive corporate elitists starving out those who can’t keep up with their agenda.

don’t take your word for it, just listen to other internet bloggers with their head in the vault, right? You fail to see that the point is you fail to see. You would criticize them no matter whose window they broke...please tell us the proper way to revolt? You’re talking but you’re not saying anything.

“never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.”

yep...and I’ll point right to capitol hill and the stuffed suits...and the flocks of those married to their agenda.

mm-hmmm..."the only goal was to break and destroy shit”....you also buy the official story and play party games. Your mind is in that vault and it won’t be broken....when people get pissed off enough at that mentality coming from the people governing their lives, they start to break shit because nothing else works. You call it pointless rioting, why don’t you call it acts of revolution? Because that would imply there was more to their purpose, one that they saw as legitimate.

mm-hmmm…”the only goal was to break and destroy shit”….you also buy the official story and play party games. Your mind is in that vault and it won’t be broken...

Egh...whatever man.

when people get pissed off enough at that mentality coming from the people governing their lives, they start to break shit because nothing else works. You call it pointless rioting, why don’t you call it acts of revolution?

Because it is not an act of revolution.  It is a bunch of two bit thugs with childish mentalities destroying a lower middle class neighborhood.  Nothing more, nothing less.  But don’t take my word for it. Just pay attention to what they’re saying.

Because that would imply there was more to their purpose, one that they saw as legitimate.

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.

Piss of WHICH american people? the one’s who buy the official story and the ones who have the most to lose....

don’t take your word for it, just listen to other internet bloggers with their head in the vault, right?

“With their head in the vault”?  Dude,..get your head out of your ass and stop being so damn childish.

You fail to see that the point is you fail to see.

No.  I see. I just don’t agree. I recognize the adolescent thinking and the narcissistic behavior that compels these idiots to destroy property that is not theirs.  There is a lot of it on the left. So it’s not like this is surprising or anything.

You would criticize them no matter whose window they broke…please tell us the proper way to revolt?

Invite them over to your house to break your windows Carl.  You seem to agree with their methods.  Me, I’d rather endorse constructive measures while you and them would rather be destructive.

You’re talking but you’re not saying anything.

Egh..you’re just not listening.

yep…and I’ll point right to capitol hill and the stuffed suits…and the flocks of those married to their agenda.

Whatever that means.  Carry on with your defense of the indefensible.  Expose yourself.

Piss of WHICH american people?

Uh...piss off the American people who’s neighborhood is being trashed. Plus any individual with decency who watches these two bit thugs go into mostly poor neighborhoods and destroy businesses and lives. Think about it Carl.  The only goal was to break and destroy shit.  That’s their message that they got out.

what do you think about when you eat a handfull of mushroom? or do you just drop acid and play halo all night? I’m inclined to suspect you’ve dabbled in the science…but you still have your head up your ass just as you say I have mine!

Uh...whatever dude.

People are fed up…change hasn’t been, isn’t, and is showing no signs of happening as it could and should to avert corporate interests from elitist ideas of wealth, to directly bettering all of humanity.

So let’s go break a McDonald’s window.  Those are all independently owned by usually solidly middle class people.  Great cause there!  Break his business and cost the guy money.  What is the fight for again?

You fail to see the continuing decline in the majority’s livelihood...

For good reason.  I see us all getting richer, living in bigger houses, living longer, etc.  I don’t see a decline in the majority’s livelihood.  And even if I did, I surely wouldn’t go out and destroy the majority’s livelihood.  To riot would be a good way of negating any point I had about the “majority’s livelihood” and my supposed concern for it.

…you buy the calculated reasoning from the hand that feeds you.

What the hell does that even mean?

You ask for internet proof, you do not look outside and question the state.

Huh?

What would jesus do? You fail to hypothesize an answer.

What the hell does this “jesus” fella have to do with anything and why did you bring him up?

Calling me childish? haha, you’re just ignorant.

Well thanks Carl.  You’re a real asshole, you know that?  You always do this.  Look through all of these threads and see who turns the thread negative early on.

All this coming from a guy who calls global warming a conspiracy theory…you’re head is in a vault and you feel right at home.

I’ve never called it a conspiracy theory, but whatever.  Get off the computer you hypocrite, you’re “polluting” the atmosphere with all of CO2 your useless rambling on the computer is doing.  I know that CO2 is plant food, but since you insist that it’s a “pollutant”, do something about it.  Start with yourself first.

...start with myself? you have no idea....

what do you think about when you eat a handfull of mushroom? or do you just drop acid and play halo all night?  I’m inclined to suspect you’ve dabbled in the science...but you still have your head up your ass just as you say I have mine! People are fed up...change hasn’t been, isn’t, and is showing no signs of happening as it could and should to avert corporate interests from elitist ideas of wealth, to directly bettering all of humanity. You fail to see the continuing decline in the majority’s livelihood...you buy the calculated reasoning from the hand that feeds you. You ask for internet proof, you do not look outside and question the state. What would jesus do? You fail to hypothesize an answer.

Calling me childish? haha, you’re just ignorant. All this coming from a guy who calls global warming a conspiracy theory...you’re head is in a vault and you feel right at home.

you see us all getting richer?...having more money but proportionately less. (prove it)

Living in bigger houses that cost disgusting (and improportionately increasing) sums of money (if you can even afford to buy) and needing more roomates if you’re renting. (prove it)

Living longer, but having to work more, and later in life. (prove it)

You genuinely don’t see the decline in livelihood. You resort to calling ME the ranting lunatic who turns negative. I won’t hesistate to call someone an idiot, but I won’t call someone negative for doing the same...it’s like you use it as a means to discredit. Grow up and get over it. You blow off meaningful response with “what the hell does that mean?” just so you don’t have to answer.Can you hypothesize what it MIGHT mean?  You fail to hypothesize..."what jesus would do?” it’s a metaphore, can you answer what you might THINK?...such hippy skippy spiritual introspection is perhaps beyond you. what would the easter bunny do? Put your brain to use on something other than your finances and your Halo stats. It’s probably a place in your head you’re afraid to visit. I “trolled” this board long before I ever posted; I invite anybody to check your politeness credentials. And you keep exposing yourself on the global warming issue...I should just drop it myself as I really feel embarrassed for you, the way you talk about it. Tell us how to revolt, likwidshoe...vote? Tell us the history of revolution, and how the shit really went down from time to time.....Tell us that the bad guys never succeeded in fooling the masses, and that there’s no way it could be happening today in this great nation. You’re too smart for that.

and to whomever posted this in the first place..."far left in action”?!?! Riots are certainly not party games..

You genuinely don’t see the decline in livelihood.

Nope.  I sure as hell don’t.  It’s not even like I’m an overly optimistic person either.  I just see the reality and the reality is that life is getting richer and better for the majority.

I won’t hesistate to call someone an idiot, but I won’t call someone negative for doing the same…it’s like you use it as a means to discredit. Grow up and get over it.

Don’t flip it on me.  This is your behavior.  And I don’t have to use your insults as a means to discredit you.  Your arguments and little sayings give me enough to work with to discredit you.

You blow off meaningful response with “what the hell does that mean?” just so you don’t have to answer.

I didn’t blow off your “meaningful response”.  I was merely asking you what the hell you mean.  Why do you make this like pulling teeth?  It was a question, not some hidden argumentive agenda.

You fail to hypothesize…”what jesus would do?” it’s a metaphore, can you answer what you might THINK?

No.  Because I don’t care.  It’s not a question I ask myself.  I did like how you said that, “You fail to hypothesize an answer.” when it was the first time you brought it up.  Heh.

…such hippy skippy spiritual introspection is perhaps beyond you.

Then it is beyond me.  La-ti-da.

Put your brain to use on something other than your finances and your Halo stats.

You so don’t know me.  Hahaha.  Oh..and I’ve never even played Halo.  Don’t think my video card can handle it. It looks cool though.

It’s probably a place in your head you’re afraid to visit.

Yes.  It’s the “think like Carl B.” place.  *shudder*

I “trolled” this board long before I ever posted; I invite anybody to check your politeness credentials.

Whatever.  I’m an impolite bastard.  But I always try to remain polite.  You, however, do not and often turn a polite conversation into a bickering match.  I only carry on with you because you’re easy practice.

And you keep exposing yourself on the global warming issue…I should just drop it myself as I really feel embarrassed for you, the way you talk about it.

What?  You’re embarrassed for me because I recognize a few facts?  That global warming is a theory.  Whether or not any global warming is man made is a theory.  And that the UN socialist “solution” to global warming won’t do a damn thing for the planet, but will put us all under a global carbon tax scheme?  Then feel embarrassed for me Carl.  Kind of weird for you to, but whatever.

Tell us how to revolt, likwidshoe…vote?

Can I just ask a question: why would you revolt against freedom?  Because that’s what you’re essentially asking to do.  You say that you’re against corporate cronism and government welfare, but then you endorse and defend destruction of private property.  Here’s the problem: the rioting may piss off and give a nominal cost to the corporations, but it’s the real everyday people who are most hurt.  It’s the lower middle class neighborhood that was trashed here.  There’s the “revolt” you are defending.

as you would say, “egh, whatever”.

eat a handfull of mushrooms and think about where the people of the world are headed at the rate we’re going. The thoughts that flow into your mind will be unsolicited. They will be completely non-partisan, void of your individual ego and complete in the truth of physical reality. The money and the buildings and the property won’t mean quite so much...rather, as they stand they’ll mean something entirely different than comfort and security. You either get it or you don’t, and you don’t. Talk won’t change your mind anymore than it will mine, I have to see it happen before I’m convinced...and I’m convinced.that “freedom” ain’t happening.

^^ not by any means a suggestion to the masses, but to you specifically...you’re an intelligent fellow, just grounded in your thinking...and again, with a name like likwidshoe and the degree of coherence you (sometimes) express, especially in relation to your belief in personal freedom, I suspect you’ve dabbled with....THE DARK SIDE!!!! MWA-HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Damn, what do those protesters have against the original 13 states?

Carl B. said, eat a handfull of mushrooms and think about where the people of the world are headed at the rate we’re going. The thoughts that flow into your mind will be unsolicited. They will be completely non-partisan, void of your individual ego and complete in the truth of physical reality. The money and the buildings and the property won’t mean quite so much…rather, as they stand they’ll mean something entirely different than comfort and security.

Um..okay.  Taking a handful of mushrooms doesn’t normally make me think like you Carl.  Sorry...we just see the world differently.  Apparently the differences go to the core subconscious level.  Either that or my next explanation is a possibility…

You either get it or you don’t, and you don’t.

No.  I know exactly where you are coming from.  I just didn’t let that dark introspective cold hell overtake or overcolor my viewpoints and worldview.  You apparently did.  Either that or you still haven’t grown out it yet.  Some people have to do that.  You might be one of those people.  The trick is to grow from the experience in a positive way and guide your attitude away from the “woe is me” and narcissistic existentialism.

Talk won’t change your mind anymore than it will mine, I have to see it happen before I’m convinced…and I’m convinced.that “freedom” ain’t happening.

Pffft.  You’re still walking around unmolested.  That’s more than I can say for eons of human history.  Me for that matter as well.  In the past we would have had to either keep our mouths shut or face certain punishment and death.  Looking just at the past 100 years in this country alone, I take a different path than many of my conservative brethren and you apparently as well.  I believe that we have gained more freedoms than we have lost.  Actually that point is debateable and I could certainly be convinced that we have lost a few of our important fundamental freedoms.  But I don’t see a situation as dire as you make it out to be.  Scary, full of hidden motives, and in a largely evil world?  You bet.  But it was always that way and will always be that way as long as human sin abounds freely in this world.

I suspect you’ve dabbled with….THE DARK SIDE!!!! MWA-HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I prefer to stay with the light lest I get all the way through that door and into a scary darkness, looped reality, and introspective hell. 

Perhaps you need an experienced shaman to guide you next time… who knows…

Oh and Carl: if you see the world this dark with shrooms, for the love of God, stay away from 2C - B, 2C-T-7, 5-MeO-AMT, or 5-MeO-DMT.  You won’t have a good time.  You should probably stay away from heavy doses of ‘cid as well. Scratch dissociative drugs as well.  God forbid you fall into a hole where all you are left with are your thoughts and you start to think that the hole is all reality. I don’t think you could handle that. Just stick with small doses of shrooms and mescaline.

my point about pschedellic introspection is more about how perceptions are just that...I think 8 hours a day, five days a week is not the enlightened perception of a workload for the status quo. It is too much work...especially in this day an age where we have the means to make everything easier for everybody. It is merely a matter of perception that we think that’s how it has to be....if everybody agreed on working six hours a day, four days a week, it would work just as well, and life as we know it would adjust accordingly. Education geared toward practical thinking and common sense can be better mingled into the curriculum of schooling that currently just drills kids for labor drills...so to speak. Billionaire thinking can take a hike...people can still be wealthy, but who the fuck needs all that crap? Why is material wealth so equated with success and happiness? especially in that degree of excess (sp?)...yeah yeah, it’s not for you or me to decide...but “what would jesus do?” I’m not even “religious” but the metaphorical nature of the question isn’t evasive to me. Jesus wouldn’t be a multi-millionaire with ten cars and three vacation homes, supporting the carpet bombing of foreign nations and spending hundreds of billions on warfare technologies. Get what I’m saying? An interview with one of the last surviving native american tribal leaders, around the early 1900’s...the chief was asked something along the lines of “don’t you think the progress of civilization on this land is great? Look at all the convenience we have!” and he responded “yes, it would be nice to have running water and rapid transportation, but not at the price of my sanity.”

HAHA, I knew you were experienced....frankly and personally, “it” changed my approach to questioning rather than providing the answers, and I spoke too soon really, it’s a personal thing and probably one best left undiscussed in a forum such as this, because anybody can get in touch with their senses regardless. I certainly don’t want to be pressed on the matter, and I appologize for antagonizing you about it. The hole IS all reality...just as much as it isn’t.....But that said, I still don’t know why you’re such a hardass in favor of the way it’s going unless you’re in a position of personal comfort through the more “controversial” areas of becoming so, by that I mean “blood money” from oil stocks, real estate investing, etc....personal freedom is one thing, but greed and manipulation is another. Like I said before, the bad guys have fooled the masses plenty of times, and you don’t seem to even humor the idea that it’s happening right now...your support is based on what they say, and in fact your perceptions have you seeing everybody doing better collectively than in the past. I could choose to see things that way, but not at the price of my sanity....I think people are going to suffer in increasing numbers until there is a small number of people who basically own the world in comfort. “bigtime conspiracy”...The line is drawing itself to that, as I see it. It doesn’t have to happen as it’s happening. And if you think less people are suffering, you’re definitely not thinking globally...but even if you’re pro tribal nation, fess up to it in your head a little bit more....the government of the united states is “taking over the world”....yay team! frankly I’m glad to be living on this side of the border, but again, perception doesn’t have to be that their means are the only means. These rioters are all in favor of freedom, who isn’t? Their personal experiences have them reacting to their environment as they see fit. There’s a reason for it; address the problem, not the response...because it’s only going to get worse. Problem is greed, problem is greed is in government. Problem is corruption, problem is corruption is in government. Problem is government, problem is paperwork hasn’t, isn’t, and is showing no signs of making government fix the problems....response, chaos.

Damn, what do those protesters have against the original 13 states?

I don’t know, Seth, but I was thinking that too.  Seemed like an odd choice.  Most of these protesters tend to take the “We’re not against America per se, just what America has become” line.  But burning the flag of the original 13 states seems to indicate that they’re against what America has stood for from the beginning.  Which probably means they’re communists protesting against capitalism.

In other words: Our enemies.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Billionaire thinking can take a hike…people can still be wealthy, but who the fuck needs all that crap?

Billionaires are the movers and shakers in the economy.  And besides, it’s their crap.  Not like you can morally take it away from them unless they immorally got their gain.  I also think of it like this: billionaires and other rich people take risks with their money that safe playing corporations normally wouldn’t.  They can advance technology thereby lifting the standard of living for us all.  For an easy example off of the top of my head: Google the X Prize contestants.  Those few people who actually had a successful company that survived the dot-com bubble are the ones ponying up the cash for a reusable space rocket.  In another example, there are rich Microsoft employees are are ponying up millions of dollars for SETI.  Regardless of what you may think of these endeavours, they are things that wouldn’t be paid for at this stage without the billionaires and millionaires with “all of that money that they don’t need” as people say.

Why is material wealth so equated with success and happiness?

It’s not.  It’s just that way for some people.  Many teenagers and young people equate material wealth with happiness.  But most of us grow out of that if we were ever in it.  I tend to think that since popular culture (TV, radio, and movies) are largely targetted to that age group, we get a distorted picture.  And of course advertisements tie in material wealth with success and happiness and since we see advertisements just about everywhere, it further distorts the picture.

yeah yeah, it’s not for you or me to decide…but “what would jesus do?”

Um...buy a hardware chain and get into the home building business?  That would spread wealth and he was a carpenter, wasn’t he?  I don’t know, what would he do?  He’s not around to ask.  And I believe that asking those kinds of questions in the political context just perverts the meaning of Jesus in the first place.  At least give the guy some respect.  Would you like it if someone who is an ideological opposite from you pimped out your name in the future, saying, “what would Carl B. do?” I’m not saying that you are an ideological opposite from Jesus, just making a point.

Jesus wouldn’t be a multi-millionaire with ten cars and three vacation homes, supporting the carpet bombing of foreign nations and spending hundreds of billions on warfare technologies.

Well how do you know?  As for carpet bombing, why would he when he can just call up his dad to wipe out the evil with a flood?

HAHA, I knew you were experienced…

I’ve left some hints.  It’s just not something that I make an issue of in this kind of forum.

But that said, I still don’t know why you’re such a hardass in favor of the way it’s going unless you’re in a position of personal comfort through the more “controversial” areas of becoming so, by that I mean “blood money” from oil stocks, real estate investing, etc….personal freedom is one thing, but greed and manipulation is another.

You see,...if you make a case about “blood money” from oil stocks or show me a case of manipulation (greed is fine as long as it doesn’t trample on my freedom; if it’s a personal sin, that’s the sinner’s own demon to face, not mine) and convince me with a sound argument, I’m on board.

Like I said before, the bad guys have fooled the masses plenty of times, and you don’t seem to even humor the idea that it’s happening right now…

Who are the bad guys?  There are plenty of them out there fooling a great part of the world.

...your support is based on what they say, and in fact your perceptions have you seeing everybody doing better collectively than in the past.

Dude, I’ve seen wealth increase a shitload since I was a little kid in the 80’s.  I’ve seen the definition of “poverty” go up in my short life.  It’s even more pronounced for my parent’s generation.  People in this country have it pretty damn easy.  Is life unfair? Are some things going backwards? Most definitely.  But all in all, things are pretty good considering the fragileness of life and the inherent evilness in men.  These are the golden times for the Western World.  The best times in known history.

I could choose to see things that way, but not at the price of my sanity…

For the most part, I didn’t choose to see things the way I do.  I was lead here.

I think people are going to suffer in increasing numbers until there is a small number of people who basically own the world in comfort.

And this is exactly why I don’t support a big government with strings on my wallet, healthcare, retirement, etc.  Or a UN government with wild plans to give us a world tax or a carbon tax.  Tax money that would go to a largely unelected body of bureaucrats, by the way.  The biggest sin in the world is lust for power.  We are going to fight that sin forever so don’t feed or enable that it by enlarging governments and giving them more and more money.

And if you think less people are suffering, you’re definitely not thinking globally…

I was speaking specifically of our country.  The rest of the world?  Who knows...there was massive amounts of suffering and injustice all over the world since time immemorial and it is no different today.

...the government of the united states is “taking over the world”….yay team!

Well if we are taking over the world, we’re going about it in a piss poor way.  We should own Germany, France, Japan, South Korea, Cuba for good measure since they’re only 90 miles off the coast, plus many more.  We are taking over the world by spreading our Western values of tolerance and democracy, but other than that, no.  We conquer, then rebuild them, and then set them free with strings of bases and some national defense restrictions.  Small beans in the history of nations taking over other nations.  So small that they aren’t even comparable.

These rioters are all in favor of freedom, who isn’t?

No they’re not.  These rioters are rioting against capitalism. A lot of them call themselves “anarchists”, but many of them are merely useful idiots for Marxists.  Read the signs and listen to them. They’ll tell you what they are about.  I’m not making this shit up.  It is all the more galling that they claim to be for freedom when capitalism is nothing more than economic freedom.  How can you be both for freedom and against capitalism?  That doesn’t make sense.

Their personal experiences have them reacting to their environment as they see fit.

I guess that I am to deduce that their personal experiences are pretty childish in nature.  This is probably when you consider me a “hardass”, when I say stuff like that.  I’m talking about thugs though.  There’s no excuse for what these guys are doing and how they are acting.

There’s a reason for it; address the problem, not the response…because it’s only going to get worse.

The problem is them.  I will not indulge a thuggish rent-a-mob with dialogue or action.  They won’t stick around anyways, they have to be bussed/flown to the next city.

Problem is greed, problem is greed is in government. Problem is corruption, problem is corruption is in government. Problem is government, problem is paperwork hasn’t, isn’t, and is showing no signs of making government fix the problems….response, chaos.

Everybody always seems to miss the biggest one and the one that all others stem from: lust for power.  And people who have a lust for power are naturally attracted to governmental positions.  See the solution yet?

“Which probably means they’re communists protesting against capitalism.

In other words: Our enemies.”

We’re fighting the communists again?

I could care less about them burning the flag, but attacking police officers is completely unjustified.

I just have one question for Carl.

Carl, in your original post (before you and likwidshoe devolved things into a food fight), you said, It says something when people get this pissed off at…not the country…but the people running the country.

The cop with the bleeding head?  Is he one of the ones running the country or is he just some collaterial damage from the revolutionists protest?

Here’s a buck, Carl.  Buy a clue.

Regards…

LTM, what do you know about this specific encounter with the cop, other than that he got a busted head? I know peaceful people who have encountered cops and THEY were the one’s leaving the scene with the busted heads. What says you to that? Cops are people like you and I, and they often over react...and can get their asses kicked in the process. You know nothing about this incident...He probably approached angry rioters and tried to stop them via equal force. Fun job!

what do you think about a missile misfire blowing up an occupied school or hospital? Or bombing a city you know is still occupied by civilians? What do they have to do with flying planes into buildings or putting bombs on subways? Not changing the subject...connect the dots.

likwidshoe, I’ll respond when I have time to read in detail.

Carl, you say, You know nothing about this incident…He probably approached angry rioters and tried to stop them via equal force.

You’re right, I don’t know the circumstances.  But then, neither do you.  That last sentence of yours is how you manage to blow your credibility. *sigh*

As for your gratuious, what do you think about a missile misfire blowing up an occupied school or hospital? Or bombing a city you know is still occupied by civilians?

The operative word in the first sentence is ‘misfire’ which makes it a regretable accident.  In the 2nd, we have yet to bomb an Iraqui city with the ‘intent’ of killing civilians.  I’m not making light of civilian deaths, simply pointing out that innocent people do die in war, but it is not a matter of policy for us to kill them.  For what it’s worth, that is the difference between us and those who are flying planes into buildings or putting bombs on subways.

Regards…

And update for us both, Carl:

According to an SF police department spokesperson, the officer remains in the hospital in serious condition with brain swelling. He has developed a blood clot as a result of his injuries.

Additionally, the SF Chronicle (that bastion of conservative right-wing journalism) reports:

The department’s spokeswoman, Maria Oropeza, said the officer and his partner were driving on 23rd Street in response to a vandalism call when protesters threw a mattress underneath their patrol car.

In addition, Tarlow was held on suspicion of wearing a disguise for the purpose of escaping discovery or identification with a public offense. Earnst was also suspected of removing a weapon other than a firearm from an officer, and the unidentified man was suspected of inciting a riot.

I guess that nasty ol’ cop got what he deserved, huh?

Regards…

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Regards…

...and a baby had his limbs blown off when a bomb landed on a house in iraq. Baby really deserved it! It’s for the good of all! hey, they were WARNED it could happen! there’s a DIFFERENCE! that kind of violence is JUSTIFIED.

silly cops and robbers, fighting on the homefront. It’s so much worse than the large scale WAR going on in someone else’s backyard.

Damn, what do those protesters have against the original 13 states?

My guess? They’re preparing for life in the U.S. after Congress passes the law prohibiting the burning of the American flag.

Regardless of what I think of people who burn the flag, I do support their right to burn it as an expression of free speech.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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