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Tuesday, June 28, 2005

The President’s Address To The Nation

Just got done watching the address. I thought it was well done, if not exactly anything new. The President re-iterated the things we need to keep in mind regarding Iraq and he's correct on just about every one of them down the line. We must stay the course and not leave until the mission is over lest the loss of soldiers lives in Iraq be in vain. That's clear to anyone without a deep-seated partisan interest in seeing the President fail even at the expense of democracy in Iraq.

Even Gen. Wesley Clark, one of the most outspoken critics of the President and the war in Iraq during his campaign for the Democrat nomination last year, came out in support of the President and the war in Iraq in an interview on Hannity & Colmes tonight. We must complete the mission in Iraq.

Failing to do so will only leave us worse off than we were before the war.

One thing I did think the President could have done better is to contrast the difference between the middle east before the invasion of Iraq and the middle east now. He made brief mention of Libya and other things, but I think he could have done better. He should have talked more about the elections in Iraq and the fact that women got to vote and run for office in them. He should have talked more about the elections in Afghanistan. He should have talked more about how the people of Lebanon were inspired by the liberation of Iraq and rose up in protest to drive out the Syrian soldiers who were occupying their country.

In short, the President should have done more to highlight the good things in Iraq and the progress has been made. All the things the media ignores on a daily basis. But he didn't, and because of that I think his speech will probably be less effective in changing the public's current attitude toward the war in Iraq than he wanted.

Update:

I see the President's mention of 9/11 is already getting some attention from the press. Anti-war advocates will no doubt soon be claiming that the President's intent was to say that Saddam Hussein somehow played a role in 9/11. Clearly that isn't true and any reasonable person read the text of the President's speech would agree that he meant that we should not forget who it is we are fighting in Iraq. That country, under Saddam's leadership, became a safe haven for extreme Islamic terrorists. Not the same terrorists who planned and executed the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, but people like them.

The point was to draw a comparison, not say that they were one in the same. And the comparison is apt, though lost on those who long ago made up their minds to hate the President and all that he stands for.

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Nothing new is needed. We are doing exactly what needs done. He was preaching to the choir, nothing anyone has to say will change the minds of the America-is-Evil crowd and kowtowing to their screeching and wailing is not going to do any good. I thought he did a good job, though he should have used this oppurtunity to present some awards to troops in the audience. Also should have made more direct mention of civilian contractors who are doing so much in really bad situations in the mid-east. Over all, I give it an 8.

2Hotel9 on June 29, 2005 at 02:07 am
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The point was to draw a comparison, not say that they were one in the same.

Kind of like Dick Durbin pointing out that human rights abuse is to be expected in Nazi regimes but should not have a place in America.

MikeAdamson on June 29, 2005 at 04:07 am
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Thank you, Mike. We should find BOTH analogies repulsive.

Dave on June 29, 2005 at 04:07 am
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Maybe Durbin had some points about the way we’re treating prisoners in Gitmo, but was comparing our soldiers to death camp prison guards the proper way for one of our nation’s leaders to go about making that point on the floor of the Senate?

I don’t think so.

But then, Mike, your point here is kind of silly.  Bush is comparing the head-choppers we’re fighting in Iraq to the kamikaze pilots who attacked us in New York.  That’s an apt comparison.  Both are groups of extreme Islamic terrorists.  Maybe they weren’t from the same group and weren’t involved with one another, but they’re the same type of people.

Our prisoners, as much as you and others apparently dislike them, are nothing like Nazis.  At least not to any reasonable person.


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Rob on June 29, 2005 at 05:07 am
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David Gergen gave an excellent analysis on CNN immediately after the speech.  He noted that nothing was really new, and that Bush continues to play the 9/11 trump card, but that it should give him more time, which is really what he needs. 

I still would have liked to have heard more in the way of milestones and strategy.  It’s all well and good to say “we’ll stay until the job is done, until the Iraqis can defend themselves,” but what does that mean?  What are the metrics?  Is it a certain force leve?  Are there training metrics?  I manage web development projects for a living, and the first question we ask when we begin a project is “How do we know when we’re done?”; I haven’t heard any concrete answers to that question in the case of Iraq.

modern instances on June 29, 2005 at 07:06 am
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This is a complete distortion and a lie!

No it is not.  You’re actually the one doing the lying here.

likwidshoe on June 29, 2005 at 07:06 pm
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Even Gen. Wesley Clark, one of the most outspoken critics of the President and the war in Iraq during his campaign for the Democrat nomination last year, came out in support of the President and the war in Iraq in an interview on Hannity & Colmes tonight. We must complete the mission in Iraq.

This is a complete distortion and a lie!

On programs that Clark has appeared on like Real Time/Bill Maher that you consider biased, he has sternly criticized Bush’s mishandling of the war. Furthermore, he was quite clear in his support for his former military colleagues who were fired for telling what turned out to be the brutal truth.

Which makes Clark a loyal soldier, who will support those charged to carry out such a mission, no matter how ineptly planned it is.

that colored fella on June 29, 2005 at 07:07 pm
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Rob...it wouldn’t be the first time I made a silly point but I’m not so sure it’s silly. Today I broke up a scrap between a couple of my kids/hooligans.

“He hit me!”
“She hit me first!”
“He hit me harder!”
“She hit me on my sunburn!”

Hitting is wrong and so is the abuse of human rights. One may hit harder and one may have hit first but they’re both in the wrong. I don’t like the tendency to compare anything or anyone we don’t like to Nazis either but wrong is still wrong.

MikeAdamson on June 29, 2005 at 09:07 pm
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Hitting is wrong and so is the abuse of human rights. One may hit harder and one may have hit first but they’re both in the wrong. I don’t like the tendency to compare anything or anyone we don’t like to Nazis either but wrong is still wrong.

Correction: the alleged abuse of human rights.  The alleged wrong would be wrong.  In that light, Durbin’s remarks are reprehensible.  Your point was silly.

likwidshoe on June 29, 2005 at 11:07 pm
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