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Of COURSE the system is racist, Rob.  What is WRONG with you?  The system HAS to be racist.  In fact, YOU are a racist for even insinuating that the system isn’t racist.  Why . . . why . . . why look at all the realities we’d have to face if we accepted (even for a moment, even in the smallest degree) things MIGHT be getting better.  Good Lord, man, how can you be so sick as to even bring this up?  Obviously the books have been cooked, the stats have been fiddled with, the numbers have been manipulated.  Foul, foul I say!

{Just thought I’d get the rant in early, before one of the trolls stops by to tell you how screwed up you are, Rob.} Stop your celebrating you racist pig and do your pennance: two Jesse Jacksons and one Eleanor Holmes Norton.

Regards…

The first paragraph if Rob’s excerpt states clearly that white males “make more than anyone else”.  Rob didn’t miss it.

What’s really a distortion here is that to claim that because one group makes more money, as a group, than another group that the second group is automatically being discriminated against.  As though we ignore all other factors and assume discrimination MUST be the problem.  I’m half surpised the article didn’t say “Blacks are discriminated against 10% more than Asians, the study finds”

Rob, one of these days I’m gonna have to sit you down and teach you how to read a newspaper article.

For example, buried at the bottom of the AP story is this interesting tidbit: White male college graduates make an average of over $66K per year---over $25K more than Black or Asian women.

The story is designed to reinforce a bullshit theory: being a minority and a woman is a “great commodity” to employers, and may therefore be worth, oh, four thousand dollars more than a White woman.

But you’re not worth $25K more. Which is how much more a candidate would get if she were a White guy. But that’s not featured in the story. The news is more interested in a battle over crumbs.

So let’s be realistic about who is considered to be a real commodity here, and cut out the media distortion and patronizing drivel.

Way to go, Don.  I knew we could count on you to straighten him out.  See, Rob, didn’t I tell you?  You ARE too a racist.

Regards…

Don Myers says, “Rob, one of these days I’m gonna have to sit you down and teach you how to read a newspaper article.”

Don Myers, one of these days I’m going to have to sit you down and teach you proper manners and how to be respectful.

How many black women ,white women ,white men ages,
percent of racial group, what’s a hispanic?
The figures by themselves are so incomplete in definining populations that they indicate nothing you could base a statement about affirmative action on.

Don Myers: they are looking for you at the Rott. Only a couple days left to smack your silly ass around!
Why is there disparity in wages to begin with? Why aren’t they based on GPA coming out of college and proven experience as you get older?
I always wondered about you Rob!

There are always big holes in these kinds of studies.  Everything “depends” on factors you can’t test or control.  The article mentions nothing about kinds of jobs minorities apply for and what industries they typically go into as opposed to white males.  These studies only beg more questions than they are worth.

There also a statistical phenomenon called the Simpson’s Paradox that happens quite often with these kinds of studies.  Basically the idea is that you will get different results using the same sample depending on how you group the subjects.  Of course this means you just group them way that provides the results you want and you can fool anyone who has not taken a basic statistics class.

Typically, its the racism criers and affirmative action proponents who try to get away with using these flimsy studies to support their arguments.  I’m very suprised to see that Rob tried to do the same here, especially with his history of disbelief in statistics.

I’d like to know what work fields these people are going into.  For all we know, white men could happen to choose fields that pay better than the one’s minorities go into.

I’d agree that this study isn’t very good.  There are too many factors to be looked at.  The results of this study aren’t conclusive enough to make an arguement for or against affirmative action.  But either way, AA still stinks.

One wouldn’t be out of bounds to suggest that men will probably always earn more than woman on average for some very simple reasons (none of which have to do with discrimination):

Men don’t take as many sick/personal days as women.

Men are incapable of applying for maternity leave.

Tradtionally, women leave work to care for families.  Men don’t.  The time women miss at work is often to their detriment as they miss out on training and experience.

Its just the way the world works.  Personally, I’m all for equal pay for equal work and I’m not so sure that we aren’t very close to that now regardless of what the bleeding hearts would say.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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