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Friday, March 25, 2005

A Stupid Mistake

Recently you may have noticed the appearance of a new link on the left sidebar here at Say Anything. The link read "Sponsors" and was located near the top of the sidebar just under the chat room link.

The link was the result of an email sent to me by Business Barn LLC. The company offered to pay me $300/month for the use of a subdomain off of my "sayanythingblog.com" domain. I would point the subdomain to a page of advertising hosted on their servers and they'd send me the money via Pay Pal. I checked out the advertising and there was no porn or anything involved so I agreed. Seemed like a good deal to me and with hosting costs rising as this page gets more and more popular I'm not much inclined to turn down opportunities to make money from this page.

Turns out this was a mistake. This company is involved in something called link farming, a practice Google frowns upon. They frown upon it so much, in fact, that Say Anything has now been removed from that search engine's indexes.

Coinciding almost exactly with this removal from Google was an email from Business Barn stating that they were ending our arrangement together. Which makes perfect sense. They were after my Google page rank. Now that I have no Google page rank I'm of no use to them.

Looking back on it all I believe I've been more than a little naive. I should have known better than to trust in an unsolicited offer, but the money was enticing and I honestly didn't think that their methods were anything to be worried about.

I've removed the link and am in the process of killing the subdomain. Once that is done I'll be sending an email to Google begging for mercy. Hopefully they'll take pity on me.

So take heed, fellow bloggers. Before you accept any offers similar to the one I accepted be sure to check out the practices the company will be engaging in lest you face the same consequences I am now facing.

Update:

It looks like Captains Quarters has run into the same problem.

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If you got delinked from Google because of this episode, ask them why the company in question is still linked.

likwidshoe on March 25, 2005 at 02:03 pm
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You guys are right.  But it was $300, and when you’re as cash-strapped as I am sometimes that comes in handy.

I didn’t listen to my skepticism and made a mistake.  Hopefully other bloggers will see this before they’re suckered in as well.


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Rob on March 25, 2005 at 02:03 pm
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The offer of $300/month for just putting a link up is a bit bizarre.  No offense, but your site does not get enough traffic to warrant a $300/month fee just for providing a link.  Not many do. 

I would not be shocked if GoogleAds canceled their account with you soon because of this.  Then again, you know I’m not too keen upon them.

Chad Evans on March 25, 2005 at 02:04 pm
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Chad is right for once.

Sometimes an offer is just a bit too good to be worth it.

Jadegold on March 25, 2005 at 02:04 pm
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hate to ask, but did you get the money?

William Teach on March 27, 2005 at 06:03 pm
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Any chance that the reason for Google’s policy is that they may be in direct competition with Google-based ads?

Psycmeistr on March 27, 2005 at 07:03 pm
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I know other bloggers who have gotten the same offer, and they did, in fact, get paid.  I’m sure they didn’t realize the Google downside.

I was also contacted with the same offer and was getting ready to respond in the affirmative (who doesn’t want $300??)… but now I think I’ll just leave the offer unanswered.

CJ on March 27, 2005 at 09:04 pm
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I got a similar e-mail from a similar company offering me $500 a month for the use of a subdomain. That money would have covered about 2/3 of my rent. Despite the temptation, I didn’t return the e-mail.

La Shawn on March 28, 2005 at 04:03 am
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I got the same “business proposal” from Business Barn—now I’m glad I simply assumed it to be spam.

I did a Google search for the company and for the name of the person who contacted me and didn’t come up with a single relevant hit. That’s usually a pretty good sign that you’re dealing with a shady company at best.

Jay Reding on March 28, 2005 at 05:03 am
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Yes, I was foolish in taking them up on the offer.  But as I said, the money was enticing.

I did get paid, but I wouldn’t do anything like this again.


When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Rob on March 28, 2005 at 07:03 am
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I would imagine that Powerline and the rest of the big fish must make some money from ad revenue…

Psycmeistr on March 28, 2005 at 08:04 am
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Ironically, your comment got zapped (partially) by my commenting spam filter.

My agreement with the company who scammed me was that I would point a subdomain (info.sayanythingblog.com) to pages of their content, which is where all those spam URL’s originated.  I also provided one link from my sidebar to the subdomain.

GoogleGuy...are you with Google?  I’d really like to get back in the index and would point out that my participation in this was a stupid mistake made by someone naive to some of the shadier practices on the internet.


When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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Rob on March 28, 2005 at 12:03 pm
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Yes, GoogleGuy, that helps very much.

Thank you so much for the prompt response.


When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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Rob on March 28, 2005 at 12:03 pm
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They offered me $500/mo and I gladly took the money. Now that they’ve “modified” the offer to $200 plus free hosting, it’s not so attractive.

Richard Bennett on March 28, 2005 at 12:03 pm
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Weird; it looks like my comment got combined with something else. My comment started with “Hi, I can confirm that it was spammy....”

GoogleGuy on March 28, 2005 at 12:03 pm
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Yes, I left an email address with my comment that will allow you to contact me. But as long as those pages are gone, you should be reindexed quite quickly.

Hope that helps,
GoogleGuy

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They made the same offer to me for free hosting.  But that was at the same time I noticed my site had been taken out of Google.  After I checked around a bit I shut them down.


When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Rob on March 28, 2005 at 12:03 pm
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Hi, I can confirm that it was spammy urls like

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that led to this spam penalty triggering for your site--and it looks like there were links from your main site to this info subdomain. It looks like these urls have been removed or the DNS has been updated for info.sayanythingblog.com, so I’d expect your site to return into Google index quite quickly (probably within 1-2 days).

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No worries--happy to help. Richard, it looks like mossback.org was also affected because of urls like
http://mall.mossback.org/catdesc-1-Anxiety_Relief-Pets-Pets_.htm
http://mall.mossback.org/catdesc-1-Necklaces-Magazines-Magazines.htm
travel.mossback.org/All-Hotels-InterCities-PT-LISBON-207878-A--1.htm
travel.mossback.org/All-cities-WA-FIFE-1-1.htm

You’ll probably want to make sure any “mall.” or “travel.” or “info.” urls are gone as well.

GoogleGuy on March 28, 2005 at 01:03 pm
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I wish Google had responded the way they are with you, Rob, when I ran into a problem with their Adsense program.

No more make money quick programs Rob.  Rinse, Repeat and Rinse again.

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Don, the trackback link is located right above the comment form, underneath where it says “Post a Comment.”

If you right-click and the copy/paste that into your trackback field it should work just fine.


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Rob on March 28, 2005 at 06:03 pm
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Update from my above comment,

It looks like Business Barn LLC is no longer listed in the Google database. 

They were listed just a few hours ago.  I wonder if GoogleGuy had anything to do with that…

likwidshoe on March 28, 2005 at 06:03 pm
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I can’t find your TrackBack link, but I quoted you on http://donsingleton.blogspot.com/2005/03/blog-advertising.html

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Well hopefully this post will rank high in the results for Googling “Business Barn.”

Of course, they’ll probably just change their name after this.


When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Rob on March 28, 2005 at 06:03 pm
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[...] It is very common for people to be calling offering to get us more hits etc. Unfortunately this can lead to unexpected consequences [...]

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[...] The world could use more dialogue about its differences — a little understanding goes a long way. There are many online forums where people with different perspectives yell at each other and hurl abuse. There aren’t so many where completely different points of view are expressed rationally and constructively. That’s why The World Forum was created.  View:  Mixed (default) Topical Only Editorial Only All Comments No Comments Display:  Threaded Minimal Nested Flat Flat Unthreaded Sort:  Unrated, then Highest Highest Rated First Lowest Rated First Ignore Ratings Newest First Oldest First Pagerank Spam in Old Stories | 11 comments (11 topical, editorial, 0 hidden) Drog, I think this is urgent (5.00 / 1) (#1) by QuickFox (Sweden) on Sun Apr 24, 2005 at 08:36:10 AM PST I think the spam comments must be hidden ASAP, else Google’s automatic algorithms might decide that we’re a link farm. We don’t want that! Even if Google doesn’t react to this, leaving the spam there will probably encourage spammers. I’m assuming that you have Trusted User status and can hide the comments by giving them zero ratings. Don’t you? Is there some technical problem that prevents you from doing this? At least one of the comments is not spam, so that one should not be hidden, probably all others are spam that needs to be hidden.—Give a man a fish and he eats for one day. Teach him how to fish, and though he’ll eat for a lifetime, he’ll call you a miser for not giving him your fish.  Now hidden (5.00 / 1) (#2) by QuickFox (Sweden) on Sun Apr 24, 2005 at 07:08:17 PM PST I found a solution so I could hide them myself. Problem solved.—Give a man a fish and he eats for one day. Teach him how to fish, and though he’ll eat for a lifetime, he’ll call you a miser for not giving him your fish. [ Parent ] Aha, it was you! (none / 0) (#3) by Drog (Canada) on Sun Apr 24, 2005 at 07:29:49 PM PST I plain forgot to hide them, then I was going through all the stories just now looking for the comments and couldn’t find them, and realized somebody was hiding them just before I got to them! Thanks! By the way, I’m looking into whether or not there is a way to write a box that will flag any suspicious comments. Say, anything comment added to a story that’s older than a week. It would just help us to stay on top of it.  [ Parent ] My proposal (5.00 / 1) (#4) by QuickFox (Sweden) on Mon Apr 25, 2005 at 10:06:45 AM PST By the way, I’m looking into whether or not there is a way to write a box that will flag any suspicious comments. Say, anything comment added to a story that’s older than a week. It would just help us to stay on top of it. What I’d like to propose is similar but still quite different. It’s an arrangement that would be useful to all our users. Helping us chase spam is a side effect. Sometimes an interesting discussion will continue past the frontpage lifetime of a story. The only way people can notice that the discussion continues, if they haven’t bookmarked it, is by going to some special page to check it—page 2, 3 etc of the frontpage listings, page 2, 3 etc of the Site Talk listings, the story itself, etc. This means that readers miss discussions they’d be interested in, and discussions are cut short. This could be solved with a margin box on the frontpage that shows stories sorted by the date-and-time of each story’s most recent comment. Topmost in this box you’d see the story that got the last comment that was added anywhere on the site. Going down the list you go backward in time by the last comment date under each story. This way people can revive old discussions whenever they want. And spam will show up too, for easy deletion.—Give a man a fish and he eats for one day. Teach him how to fish, and though he’ll eat for a lifetime, he’ll call you a miser for not giving him your fish. [ Parent ] Interesting (none / 0) (#5) by Drog (Canada) on Mon Apr 25, 2005 at 10:18:54 AM PST I like your suggestion. I’ll look into how that could be accomplished. I’ve also been meaning to rewrite the Previous Top Stories box, by the way, so that it shows new comments just like the other boxes do.  [ Parent ] Top Stories box (none / 0) (#6) by Drog (Canada) on Tue Apr 26, 2005 at 08:53:40 AM PST I’ve added a Top Stories box to the stories page. I seem to remember there was something wrong with it before which is why I didn’t have it there, but I can’t remember what. Maybe as I watch it over time, I’ll remember. smile [ Parent ] Great! (none / 0) (#7) by QuickFox (Sweden) on Tue Apr 26, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM PST Nice! It doesn’t show writer’s name, was that the problem? Which reminds me, the frontpage box Section Stories doesn’t show writers either.—Give a man a fish and he eats for one day. Teach him how to fish, and though he’ll eat for a lifetime, he’ll call you a miser for not giving him your fish. [ Parent ] Yes! (none / 0) (#8) by QuickFox (Sweden) on Wed Apr 27, 2005 at 04:06:10 PM PST I’ve also been meaning to rewrite the Previous Top Stories box, by the way, so that it shows new comments just like the other boxes do. A very good idea!—Give a man a fish and he eats for one day. Teach him how to fish, and though he’ll eat for a lifetime, he’ll call you a miser for not giving him your fish. [ Parent ] story sorting (none / 0) (#9) by janra (Canada) on Sat Apr 30, 2005 at 05:41:59 PM PST I’ve been thinking of a way to do that for my site as well. I just haven’t gotten to it yet. In a couple of weeks, when I’m off shift, I’ll have a crack at it, and probably put the result on the Scoop Box Exchange. At that point, you’d be welcome to take a copy of it.  [ Parent ] Thanks for the offer (none / 0) (#10) by QuickFox (Sweden) on Mon May 02, 2005 at 01:07:01 PM PST Seems I beat you to it. Once I get a few improvements made I’ll post my solution on the Box Exchange.—Give a man a fish and he eats for one day. Teach him how to fish, and though he’ll eat for a lifetime, he’ll call you a miser for not giving him your fish. [ Parent ] Posted to the Box Exchange (none / 0) (#11) by QuickFox (Sweden) on Tue May 10, 2005 at 07:43:35 AM PST Posted to the Box Exchange.—Give a man a fish and he eats for one day. Teach him how to fish, and though he’ll eat for a lifetime, he’ll call you a miser for not giving him your fish. 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