Say Anything Blog

See ya, bye. We are right back to the lunchmoney scenario. Show weakness, get victimized. Show strength, eat lunch.
I wonder how long before they get hit with an attack?
There will be more blood on the lying communist reporters hands!

Rob,

Such a reaction by those of you on the Right, only reinforces the image of an insolent, spoiled brat, lashing out and blaming others for misfortunes you’ve perpetuated.

And, I’m not a gloating, anti-war Lefty, I’m a pissed off one!

You want everyone to believe that Italy’s decision is based on the hysterics of Sgrena, and that the Italians were staunch allies before this decision.

Wrong, on both counts!

I’m outraged that an ally could not unequivocally dismiss any notion that American troops were purposely targeting one of their journalists. I’m outraged that an ally government doesn’t even trust a Pentagon inquiry enough, before making this decision.

The Italians were overwhelmingly anti-war, long before this incident. Why? Because, the evidence of torture, ‘extraordinary rendition’ and suspicious deaths of Al Jeezera journalists were not censored in their country!

After 9/11, Americans are excusing or turning a blind eye to such evidence, proven or not.

Our allies cannot.

thatcoloredfella: You make some good points. I don’t believe she is the sole reason for this but she is I think, a contributing factor. She still hasn’t gooten her story straight and I’m sure it is going to change again. The Italians have the same problems with biased media that europe and the US do. This wench is part of that biased media.

maxxdog,

If you can convince me you get cable from Italy, I might buy your argument. But, you’d need to explain this preemptive move by the PM Berlusconi.

Blair is facing the same opposition in Britain, but has not caved. Italy is pulling it’s troops even before the results of the Pentagon probe. That signals grave mistrusts at the highest level.

Sadly, as long as Italy continues to pay ransoms for hostages, we are probably better off without their relatively small contribution in manpower.  Funding the terrorists clearly does much greater harm.

Rob,
You guess Giuliana Sgrena got what she wanted?  Do you really think she wanted to be kidnapped, held hostage, have a man killed right in front of her and be shot herself?  I know it’s easy for us to be flippant sitting in comfort at our computers and I do know what you mean to say, but couldn’t you express it without complete disregard for a person’s humanity?

Paul; re: “You guess Giuliana Sgrena got what she wanted? Do you really think she wanted to be kidnapped, held hostage, have a man killed right in front of her and be shot herself?”

Personally, I’m not totally convinced that she didn’t do exactly that.  The shooting at the checkpoint was an unfortunate accident, but I’m about half convinced that she set up the kidnapping herself, and when it didn’t draw the attention she wanted, she had the kidnappers release that emotional videotape that galvanized the Italian public.  Hell… she’s admitted that the tape was HER idea!  It wouldn’t surprise me at all if it finally came out that the whole kidnapping was staged!  Why?  To fund her buddies among the “minutemen”.

your cold mama.  what about she and her rescuer being shot?  do you blame the victim there, too?

thatcoloredfella asks, “The Italians were overwhelmingly anti-war, long before this incident. Why? Because, the evidence of torture, ‘extraordinary rendition’ and suspicious deaths of Al Jeezera journalists were not censored in their country!”

Wow!  You’re awash in moral relativism there.  Tell me: where the beheadings censored?  Where the mass graves?  Are the history books censored?  Do they even know why we’re fighting this war?  I bet they think it’s oil..huh?

After 9/11, Americans are excusing or turning a blind eye to such evidence, proven or not.

Our allies cannot.

Yeah whatever.  When our “allies” side with the terrorists, screw ‘em. 

And give me a break thatcoloredfella.  The people in Italy that were against the war are the same type of people who were against the war in America.  International A.N.S.W.E.R., hate America, blame America first, Marxists.  Marches organized by the same damn Marxist groups with the same damn agenda.  THAT’S who was against the war.  I don’t think I have to tell you why they were against the war.

Don’t bullshit us.

It’s not just Sgrena--it’s the population of Italy.

What the Cult of AWOL Bush tries desperately to ignore is the very real fact the populations of most European countries--even the UK and Italy--oppose our misadventure in Iraq.

Does Italy pulling out mean much?  Nope.  The fact also remains the US is bearing 99% of the brunt in terms of lives and money.  This is the testament of AWOL George’s failed foreign policy.

Bush has almost brought democracy to Italy. Berlusconi is talking out of both sides of his mouth because Italian elections are coming up. He says he will pull out troops in September, IF the security situation warrants it… IF Iraqi security forces could defend themselves. ...