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Sunday, March 06, 2005

Italian Hostage Says Americans Targeted Her

BBC -Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena has suggested US troops deliberately tried to kill her moments after she was released by her kidnappers in Baghdad.


Ms Sgrena, writing in her left-wing newspaper Il Manifesto, described how her car came "under a rain of fire".

At that moment, she said she recalled her captors' words that some Americans "don't want you to go back".

The US military, who said troops fired on the speeding car after it failed to stop, has opened a full investigation.

A top Italian secret service agent, Nicola Calipari, died in the incident as he shielded Ms Sgrena from the gunshots.

He had led the efforts to negotiate the release of the correspondent, held captive in Iraq for more than a month. . . .

Upon her release, [Sgrena] said, "They [the kidnappers] said they were committed to releasing me, but that I had to be careful 'because there are Americans who don't want you to go back'."

In another interview with Sky Italia TV, she said it was possible the soldiers had targeted her because Washington opposed the policy of negotiating with kidnappers.

"Everyone knows that the Americans do not like negotiations to free hostages, and because of this I don't see why I should exclude the possibility of me having been the target," she said.


There is no doubt in my mind that Sgrena's car was fired upon by American forces because the driver failed to follow the directions of the soldiers at the checkpoint. The idea that U.S. forces would fire upon a released hostage because we do not negotiate with terrorists is patently ridiculous.

This assertion also ignores the fact that had the U.S. troops really wanted Sgrena dead they could have easily finished the job of killer her after the car was stopped and she lay wounded inside. Doing so would have removed all witnesses to the crime and left no one to tell the tale that Sgrena is now telling. But that didn't happen. Instead the troops realized their mistake and rushed Sgrena to a hospital for treatment. Not exactly the behavior of a military force intent on murdering freed hostages.

But really it isn't at all surprising that Sgrena is taking this position. What else would you expect from a communist terrorist sympathizer? Regardless, I expect this story to be hyped to the high heavens by the blame-America-first crowd who will no doubt claim it as vindication for Eason Jordan.

Chad Evans has much more on this story.

Update:

You gotta love this headline from Reuters:

Italy Doubts U.S. Version Of Shooting


Apparently, as far as Reuters is concerned, Sgrena speaks for all of Italy.

There is no indication in that article, or anywhere else in the media, that Italy doubts America's version of the shooting. They are asking for an investigation, of course, but that fact certainly doesn't warrant the headline Reuters is running.

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Let’s see; Sgrena was in the car, she was fired upon, she was wounded and her rescuer killed.

But Rob was some 12,000 miles away and knows better?

Jadegold on March 6, 2005 at 10:03 am
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The question was answered, Joseph. To have mounted the full assassination effort you allude to would have required significant Italian Govt. complicity.

Now, you have to ask yourself why Sgrena would suggest US troops targetted her.  After all, what allegiance does she owe her captors or those who sympathize with them?  It’s highly doubtful she has any--after all, she was a hostage for about a month, probably spending every waking moment fully understanding the plight of hostages in Iraq has not been good.

Jadegold on March 6, 2005 at 11:03 am
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If the soldiers wanted her dead you’d never hear the story…

Sorry, Joseph, this is real life--not the movies.

The fact is Sgrena’s release was negotiated by the Italian Govt and facilitated by their military and intelligence services.  To do away with her--covertly--would have to involve the complicit support of the Italian Govt.

Jadegold on March 6, 2005 at 11:04 am
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Puhlease Jadegold, If the soldiers wanted her dead you’d never hear the story…
And even if we grant the (ridiculus) premise that they did fire at the car with intent to kill,
do you really think she be alive to talk about it?

Shoot the lady, treat her wounds and then send her on the way with the biggest PR scandal in quite a while.
brilliant!

Joseph on March 6, 2005 at 11:04 am
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You didn’t answer the question.

If they wanted her dead, do you really think she be alive now to talk about it?

Joseph on March 6, 2005 at 11:04 am
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The question was answered, Joseph. To have mounted the full assassination effort you allude to would have required significant Italian Govt. complicity.

I’m talking about the incident and not some theoretical black op.
Why shoot up the car, treat her wounds and then send her to Italy if they wanted her dead?

We swedes use logic when reasoning:
http://www.spectator.se/stambord/index.php?p=629

Joseph on March 6, 2005 at 12:03 pm
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Leave it to Jadegold to side against US troops….

Nope, Aaron.  I don’t what happened.  We have two very conflicting reports where there should not be; the truth probably lies in the middle somewhere.

This tragedy, though, points up the fact things still aren’t hunky-dory in Iraq.  When you’re gunning down friendlies, it generally means your security situation is not good.

You also have to ask yourself why it seems we can’t secure the road to Iraq’s major airport after nearly two years’ time.

Jadegold on March 6, 2005 at 12:04 pm
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Who ever said things were “hunky-dory”?? Things are getting better all the time, but there’s a lot of work left to do.

Try putting on your optimist hat and wearing that for the day, JG…

Aaron on March 6, 2005 at 12:04 pm
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Leave it to Jadegold to side against US troops.... too predictable!

Aaron on March 6, 2005 at 12:04 pm
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Yes, I’m 12,000 miles away...but the version of events I’ve put forth isn’t from me, its from the U.S. soldiers who were on scene.

When it comes time to decide who to believe, I’m going to believe them over a communist, anti-American journalist.


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Rob on March 6, 2005 at 03:03 pm
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Italian Hostage Says Americans Targeted Her

In another interview with Sky Italia TV, she said it was possible the soldiers had targeted her because Washington opposed the policy of negotiating with kidnappers.

“Everyone knows that the Americans do not like negotiations to free hostages, and because of this I don’t see why I should exclude the possibility of me having been the target,� she said.

“possible"...."don’t see why I should exclude”...Your headline does not support the quotes you attribute to her.
We don’t know what happened. That’s what an investigation is for.

MikeAdamson on March 6, 2005 at 04:04 pm
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If it was not a wide ranging conspiracy, how did they know which car to fire on. Or did they shoot every car on that road at the precise time that her car was there. Or is it possible that the failure of the vehicle to stop at a clearly marked and obviously manned checkpoint led to the soldiers lighting their arrogant, stupid asses up. I posted a comment on the day this happened, nothing reported in the MSM, on either side of the water, has changed the fact that they rushed a checkpoint on a road known for carbombings. JG, if you were the Lt. in command of that checkpoint what would you have ordered?

2Hotel9 on March 6, 2005 at 04:04 pm
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Tough call?  What’s tough about it?  If the soldiers’ account is correct, they were acting in self defense! This is how (car bombs at checkpoints) many of our men in uniform die over there…

Aaron on March 6, 2005 at 05:03 pm
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I admit it is a tough call when you’re in that spot and if the soldiers’ account turns out to be accurate then I would chalk it up to bad luck. It is a war zone after all. I think we should wait for the investigation though because there are two very different accounts of what happened.

MikeAdamson on March 6, 2005 at 05:04 pm
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It’s a tough call because the soldiers don’t know if an approaching car contains bloodthirsty terrorists or innocent civilians or freed Italian hostages for that matter. I wouldn’t want to be the guy who has to make that split second determination because I don’t want to be wrong and kill a bunch of average Joes or be wrong and see my buddies die and/or be killed myself. That’s why it’s a tough call.

MikeAdamson on March 6, 2005 at 05:04 pm
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True enough…

Aaron on March 6, 2005 at 06:03 pm
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I’m sure they do have orders and protocols for situations like that. It doesn’t lessen the pressure any I wouldn’t think.

MikeAdamson on March 6, 2005 at 06:03 pm
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While I have never served in the armed forces, I’m sure they have a protocol and orders to follow.  If they’ve done the arm-waving, light-flashing, warning-shot-firing thing and the car gets to a certain point with no signs of slowing, I’m sure they are under orders to open fire… My guess is it’s pretty cut and dry… but again, that’s my guess (and thus why I said it probably wouldn’t be a ‘tough call’wink

Maybe I’m wrong…

Aaron on March 6, 2005 at 06:03 pm
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[...] Meanwhile, Outside the Beltway questions why the MSM is calling Giuliana Sgrena a journalist at all. Say Anything is also pointing out that the prevalent Reuters headline “Italy Doubts U.S. Version of Iraq Shooting” is grossly inaccurate: Apparently, as far as Reuters is concerned, Sgrena speaks for all of Italy. [...]

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