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Tuesday, February 08, 2005

This Makes Seven

The arrest of this woman makes no less than seven teachers who have been caught having sex with their students since the beginning of this year.

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WKRN - A Warren County elementary teacher faces a maximum 100 years in prison if she's convicted of having a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old boy.

Only news two was in Fentress County as 27-year-old Pamela Rogers Turner was arrested and charged with 15 counts of sexual battery by an authority figure and 13 counts of statutory rape. District Attorney General Dale Potter said that Turner, a physical education teacher and coach at Centertown Elementary, had an ongoing sexual relationship with a male student. Potter said that some of the incidents even took place at school and at the boy's home, where the teacher reportedly lived a short while.


Seven teachers caught having sex with their students in a little over a month. This has to be some sort of trend, but I have no idea what's causing it.

The indictment and mug shot are here.

Update:

Here's some more pictures (via Marty in the comments):









(via Wizbang)

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She’s looking damn foxy in that hat…

Mark J on February 8, 2005 at 08:02 pm
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Hey no fair, i NEVER had teachers that looked like this… much less any that were good to go!

Signed,
Born too late…

(more pictures please… google “+honeymoon +hedonism")

Marty on February 8, 2005 at 08:03 pm
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Click on the smoking gun link and check out her mug shot.


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Rob on February 9, 2005 at 06:02 am
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I wanna know where all these hot teachers are coming from.  They weren’t too prevalent in the Maine public schools in the early 80’s.

Bruce on February 9, 2005 at 08:02 am
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Fixed it Marty.  I also put the pics in the post.


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Rob on February 9, 2005 at 04:02 pm
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That 13yr old boy is “GOD”.

T-REX on February 10, 2005 at 03:03 pm
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I’ve met and talked to this girl at a local resturaunt before all of this came out, and I can say she was very nice, cordial, and yes very hot!!!!!!

Warren County Native on February 10, 2005 at 04:03 pm
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I’m so intriqued by this story. Whoever this 13 year boy is he will have enough confindence to be pimpin’ for years. As for her I think it’s hot!

ned on February 10, 2005 at 05:02 pm
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Okay, maybe just one more… without the bad crop

http://gcruse.typepad.com/turner.jpg

Marty on February 10, 2005 at 05:03 pm
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poor kid....

jerry on February 10, 2005 at 06:02 pm
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I had no idea that makes seven in the past month, that’s insane!  It kind of makes you wonder if this is the type of thing that has always happened, but it’s just been swept under the rug until recently.  I gotta say though, there’s nothing like a couple of hot women to draw attention to an issue and both Debra Lafave and Pamela Turner certainly fit that mold!

SayHey on February 10, 2005 at 09:03 pm
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hey,
that 13 year old boy is lucky. I am 11, so i wish to have such a teacher to teach me how to ride them.

nick on February 11, 2005 at 04:02 am
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Heh, i wonder if it is all a publicity stunt.  She’s guaranteed a Playboy layout now…

Marty on February 11, 2005 at 07:02 am
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That’s nuts...if I were that kid, I would not have said anything, and I would have just enjoyed banging the hell outta her! I’m 30 now, but if I were that kid, I would defend her, and lie my ass off to cover for her...she would owe him big time then...talk about “hot for teacher”...lol

Fallen on February 11, 2005 at 07:03 am
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I knew pamela personaly she was a good friend to me she listend when any of me or my friends had problems and helped us if she could i DO NOT BELIVE she did it cuz she is a good person and i belive if anything that boy made it up cuz look at it this way if u was a teenage boy liveing with one of the most beautiful pple in fentress and most likeingly warren county wat would u tell ur friends u played ball all day NO........i mean she is so beautiful and talented at that she has some of the most greatest records and c-range highschool and on top of all her accomplishments she is a wonderful person inside and out so i belive all u pple out there who don’t no her and if callin her crap like a slut and crap need to stop becuz u have no idea wat this AWEFUL rumor IS DOIN TO HER LIFE.........its werid last week i was tlakin to her at a game and she has been in jail pple harrasing her and her father.......it really knocks u back to reality and if ur wondering who i am it really don’t matter but U ALL NEED to THINK of wat she must b going thro her life is basically ruined becuz of this her marragie her job HER LIFE ...u guys should b praying 4 her not callin her crap and most of u i bet don’t even no her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

britney on February 14, 2005 at 03:02 pm
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Britney, so far no none here has called her anything but “one fine lookin woman!” so your charges are unfounded.

One question for you though—what grade are you in?  Just curious… you sure have a way with words…

Marty on February 14, 2005 at 05:02 pm
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Just a tip honey, if you want people to listen to what you have to say—and i DO think it’s worth saying—you should pay just a touch more attention to HOW you say it.

Just a bit of advice from a friend who can’t spell very good either.

Marty on February 14, 2005 at 05:03 pm
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i don’t no why it matter how my words r this is expressing urself not grammer class ok the fact is i said wat i felt and new wat i was talkin bout and talkin bout someone i don’t no and pple r too callin her a playboy layout and all i just don’t like the fact of pple not evening noin her and judgeing her

britney on February 14, 2005 at 05:03 pm
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OK, lets see, When I was 13 I was having wet dreams about stuff like this…
I would have given a testicle for her! That FOXY little lady.

hornytoad on February 15, 2005 at 12:03 am
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Based on her grammar and spelling skills, Britney is definitely from Fentress Co. TN and should be considered a credible source.  Bottom line is, Pamela is a dope. I know from experience. If she wanted a boyfriend, she could have nearly anyone she wanted.  Why a 13yr old kid?  Must be serious mental issues.

john on February 15, 2005 at 10:03 am
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britney,

i don’t no why it matter how my words r this is expressing urself not grammer class ok the fact is i said wat i felt and new wat i was talkin bout and talkin bout someone i don’t no and pple r too callin her a playboy layout and all i just don’t like the fact of pple not evening noin her and judgeing her

The point of communication is to convey a thought from one person to another.  Your text is nearly illegible, thus making your points extremely difficult to understand.  Yes, we are not in grammar class.  We are in the real world where communicating ideas is paramount. 

Please, before it’s too late, study English and understand the importance of good grammar, sentence structure and spelling!  Realize that by not learning to communicate the only person you hurt is YOU. 

Without good communication skills the best you can hope for is a mediocre labor job, or call center hourly employee.

Seth Yantiss on February 15, 2005 at 11:03 am
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yes she could get anyone she wants so excately why would she want this lil boy who is probably not even worth her first look so he is lieing they were liveing togather i mean if everyone knew u was liveing with her wat would u tell them EXCATELY....i belive he is lieing and its got so far he can’t back out!!...and by the way i am 14 and its called slang easier way of typeing srry if u can’t understand it but i don’t have time to type and worry bout my spelling and father more yes i am from fentress county so wat.....just because i am most likely younger than u guys does not mean i don’t have a very good out look on this issue and a very good opinion so i think u should not judge my “grammer” and my age but wat i have to say if u don’t mind!!!!!thank u

britney on February 15, 2005 at 12:03 pm
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Sadly, at 14 you seem to think that your convenience is more important than your clarity.  What you fail to understand is that if WE can not understand YOU then YOU become irrelevant.

But go ahead and preach to us about how you are so much more efficient.  Tell us, in your slang, how you are well within your rights to express yourself in anyway you please.  Tell me, O fourteen-year-old, how you are “All that and a bag of chips”.

:::Sigh:::

Seth Yantiss on February 15, 2005 at 12:03 pm
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They should get her and Lafave together for the layout I have no doubt that it woul be one of playboys best sellers.

Richard on February 15, 2005 at 12:03 pm
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well i am just not going to bother putting my opinion on here anymore cause this is not what i thought it was it is just alot of people trying to make other feel bad about themselves other than haveing a conversation about the issue that this website is about......i really don’t understand why u can’t understand me i mean what do u no not understand or r u guys that old!!....but some of u thank u for being at least half nice!!!cuz this is a big deal to me...u know wat screw this cuz u guys r to worried in tellin me wat my sentences are suppose to b!! this is my last message bye

britney on February 15, 2005 at 01:02 pm
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Well, the red showed up on the preview. smile Oops!

Amy on February 15, 2005 at 01:02 pm
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We are interested in what you have to say, Britney, its just that while you’re saving time by typing in abbreviated slang and run-on sentences we’re wasting time trying to decipher your meaning.

The better we can understand you the more likely we’ll be to consider your opinion and respond in kind.


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Rob on February 15, 2005 at 01:02 pm
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“I knew pamela personaly she was a good friend to me she listend when any of me or my friends had problems and helped us if she could i DO NOT BELIVE she did it cuz she is a good person and i belive if anything that boy made it up cuz look at it this way if u was(should be were)eenage boy liveing with one of the most beautiful pple in fentress and most likeingly(not even a word)ren county wat would u tell ur friends u played ball all day NO……..i mean she is so beautiful and talented at that she has some of the most greatest records and c-range highschool and on top of all her accomplishments she is a wonderful person inside and out so i belive all u pple out there who don’t no(should be know) and if callin her crap like a slut and crap need to stop becuz u have no idea wat this AWEFUL rumor IS DOIN TO HER LIFE………its werid last week i was tlakin to her at a game and she has been in jail pple harrasing her and her father…….it really knocks u back to reality and if ur wondering who i am it really don’t(should be doesn’t)ter but U ALL NEED to THINK of wat she must b going thro her life is basically ruined becuz of this her marragie her job HER LIFE …u guys should b praying 4 her not callin her crap and most of u i bet don’t even no her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “

“i don’t no(should be know) it matter(s) my words r this is expressing urself not grammer class ok the fact is i said wat i felt and new(should be knew) i was talkin bout and talkin bout someone i don’t no(should be know) pple r too callin her a playboy layout and all i just don’t like the fact of pple not evening(should be even)hould be knowing) her and judgeing her”

“yes she could get anyone she wants so excately why would she want this lil boy who is probably not even worth her first look so he is lieing they were liveing togather i mean if everyone knew u was(should be were)ont> with her wat would u tell them EXCATELY….i belive he is lieing and its got(should be gone)far he can’t back out!!…and by the way i am 14 and its called slang easier way of typeing srry if u can’t understand it but i don’t have time to type and worry bout my spelling and father more yes i am from fentress county so wat…..just because i am most likely younger than u guys does not mean i don’t have a very good out look on this issue and a very good opinion so i think u should not judge my “grammerâ€? and my age but wat i have to say if u don’t mind!!!!!thank u”

First thing, for the love of God, would someone please get this poor girl a dictionary? I think I got all of the spelling errors but I am going to need a fresh red pen for the rest. Mine is out of ink.

Next, Britney - you point out that her life is ruined. If she is truly guilty of this crime then there is only one person to blame for this, and that is Pamela. She ruined her own life with her poor judgement.

Amy on February 15, 2005 at 01:02 pm
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i ddnt evn bther rdg it

Marty on February 15, 2005 at 01:03 pm
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Catmet,

I have seen this type of writing before.  The advent of the text messaging phone created the need for a shortened communication style.  IM’s also (sort of) required slang for quick communications. 

I don’t know if this person is truly 14 or not, but judging by the high standards being placed on kids in the Public de-education camps, (this one is mine smile ) I can see it…

Seth Yantiss on February 15, 2005 at 07:02 pm
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Why the hell are these kids saying anything at all. If they would keep there mouths shut they would still be banging these women!

Rocky on February 15, 2005 at 07:02 pm
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I laughed for a long time!  Thanks Amy !!!

Britney,

Rob said it quite well.  We are not “picking on you” per se, but we are trying to assist you.  If you want your ideas to be heard, then you need to voice them in a way that is coherent for others.  If you are talking to a crowd of Elderly people, would you talk like you write?  Or, would you talk to them so that they understand your meaning?

Without Clear, concise diction the points you wish to share are moot and all validity to your position is lost. 

If you prefer to take the easy way out of your situation, then leave… don’t come back.  No one is going to mourn.  I do not say this to be mean. I am simply stating the truth.  The world is too big and busy for people to feel bad that you don’t want to “hang with us.” If you think quitting is better, then go. 

Nor will anyone stop you from posting in your gibberish, but realize that you will not reach as many people with your potential wisdom. 

You may, instead, wish to stay.  You may get over being offended; realize that we were not being cruel; and enjoy the conversation.  You may, also, find that WE have a difficult enough time conveying meaning when we use proper diction and grammar.  You may understand why some of us do not have the time to spend translating the broken English.  You may begin to appreciate the written word.  You may begin to covet communications of a higher order…

Whatever you decide, I wish you luck.

Seth Yantiss on February 15, 2005 at 07:02 pm
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My comment is about “britney.”

I don’t for a second believe that she is a 14 year old kid. My gut feeling is that her style, slang and misspelling is contrived to disguise the author’s identity.
It simply takes too much effort to post such rubbish as a natural style of prose.
I wouldn’t be surprised if “britney” is involved in whole or in part in the case.

catmet on February 15, 2005 at 07:03 pm
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Anytime Seth! I aim to please. wink

Amy on February 15, 2005 at 07:03 pm
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she does not need to be able to spell the cash register at Mc Donalds has little pictures of the food on it I think.

richard on February 16, 2005 at 09:02 am
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she does not need to be able to spell the cash register at Mc Donalds has little pictures of the food on it I think.

richard on February 16, 2005 at 09:03 am
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Catmet...You have obviously never been to Clarkrange.I do believe Britney is a 14 year old girl from Clarkrange,however I seriously doubt her grammer skills have developed enough for her to compose complete sentences in order to have had a conversation with Pamela at a ballgame.

Cook on February 16, 2005 at 09:03 am
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Britney makes me ashamed to be from Clarkrange.

cook on February 16, 2005 at 10:02 am
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Britney makes me ashamed to be from Clarkrange.

cook: there are idiots everywhere.  Don’t let one define your entire area.

likwidshoe on February 16, 2005 at 10:03 am
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Sorry, I must be slow.  How is, “I knew a lot of folks that learned to type one handed by using slang”, crass?

I agree with most of the rest of what you wrote, but that part just confused me.

Robin S. on February 16, 2005 at 11:02 am
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They had to learn to type one handed during online sex.  They had to learn to type one handed during online sex.  <-- could be considered crass

Seth Yantiss on February 16, 2005 at 11:02 am
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Robin,

I have a blackberry that I use for e-mails, which has a full keyboard on it, so I don’t need to use slang. I once worked for AOL as a technical support rep, so I did a lot of IM’ing, but never learned the IM shorthand (except LOL and the various emoticons) wink grin ETC.

But, not to be crass, I knew a lot of folks that learned to type one handed by using slang.  U R for “you are” etc.  I am not saying that I agree with using it as it limits the ability to communicate, nor do I think it should be used in a situation, like blogging, where you can not know who is reading your text.  Additionally, a 14 year old learning slang English is not as likely to learn real English as is evident by Britney’s posts. 

Don’t get me wrong, I understand the use of it, and could care less if it’s used between private people.  When you get into a public forum, there is no excuse for using it.

Seth Yantiss on February 16, 2005 at 11:03 am
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Seth wrote:
I have seen this type of writing before. The advent of the text messaging phone created the need for a shortened communication style. IM’s also (sort of) required slang for quick communications.

I know this is the common understanding, but I don’t buy it.

I use text messaging occasionally on my phone, and I’ve never resorted to anything like that.  The closest I’ve come was leaving off the word “I” on a sentence now and then.  ("Wrecked my car; am sitting at police station.  Can’t talk right now.")

The advent of IMs (and, later, text messages) may have given kids more of an excuse for this tripe, but it didn’t give them a NEED.  All they needed to do was learn to be concise.  (Something, as you can see, I’ve never really learned...)

Robin S. on February 16, 2005 at 11:03 am
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i am 14 whoever is saying I ant.
actually I am 13 will be 14 the 28th!
I am sorry you can’t understand me,because most of you probably ant familiar with this “slang” I am just use to talking to my friends they understand it didn’t really think about it but hopefully u can understand this,and btw(by the way) whoever you are your gut feeling is wrong!I am not hiding my idenity and I have had alot of conversations with pamela.She use to be my p.e teacher before she went to warren county!That is why I know she couldn’t have done this!Because she isn’t that sort of person!!

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i am 14 whoever is saying I ant.
actually I am 13 will be 14 the 28th!
I am sorry you can’t understand me,because most of you probably ant familiar with this “slang” I am just use to talking to my friends they understand it didn’t really think about it but hopefully u can understand this,and btw(by the way) whoever you are your gut feeling is wrong!I am not hiding my idenity and I have had alot of conversations with pamela.She use to be my p.e teacher before she went to warren county!That is why I know she couldn’t have done this!Because she isn’t that sort of person!!

britney on February 16, 2005 at 12:02 pm
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Much better!  Thanks Britney!!!  Still, you should, seriously, pay more attention to your English classes.

Seth Yantiss on February 16, 2005 at 12:02 pm
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i am 14 whoever is saying I ant.
actually I am 13 will be 14 the 28th!
I am sorry you can’t understand me,because most of you probably ant familiar with this “slang” I am just use to talking to my friends they understand it didn’t really think about it but hopefully u can understand this,and btw(by the way) whoever you are your gut feeling is wrong!I am not hiding my idenity and I have had alot of conversations with pamela.She use to be my p.e teacher before she went to warren county!That is why I know she couldn’t have done this!Because she isn’t that sort of person!!

britney on February 16, 2005 at 12:03 pm
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i am 14 whoever is saying I ant.
actually I am 13 will be 14 the 28th!
I am sorry you can’t understand me,because most of you probably ant familiar with this “slang” I am just use to talking to my friends they understand it didn’t really think about it but hopefully u can uinderstand this,and btw(by the way) whoever you are your gut feeling is wrong!I am not hiding my idenity and I have had alot of conversations with pamela.She use to be my p.e teacher before she went to warren county!

britney on February 16, 2005 at 12:03 pm
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Sweetheart, your freinds won’t think you’re cool just because you use slang, and they wont think less of you if you do not.  Most of your freinds read just fine, even if their writing is less than perfect.

The rest of the world however (that means us, as none of us know you) will think less of you for communicating with such laziness.  And yes, i’d be more forgiving if you were typing from a cell-phone.  If you are, just say so.

If not, welcome to a room full of strangers who will judge you by every sentance, every word, and yes—every letter you type (or don’t, as it were).  Get used to it kiddo, that’s what growing up is all about.

Question:  How do you know “what type of person she is” when she was just your PE teacher?  YOu may know what type of PE teacher she was—to her female students at least—but when hundreds of catholic preists have been convicted of molesting thousands of little boys, how well do any of us know anything? I’m sure everyone was CERTAIN that their preist “wasn’t that type of person”.  Just another lesson that can only be learned through pain—either your own, or through the pain of others.

Marty on February 16, 2005 at 01:02 pm
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I have a brother and he knew him just as well.....female and male she is the same either way and I am not trying to be cool...we all use slang!marty I thought you wasn’t bother reading what i had to say...so why should i bother hearing what you have to say!!??

britney on February 16, 2005 at 02:02 pm
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Britney...It’s called a lack of education from going to Clarkrange, not slang.

Cook on February 16, 2005 at 03:03 pm
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omg LACK OF EDUCATION you guys don’t even know what the hell your talking about you don’t even know me and I am 13 not in highschool not in collage never had a job and frankly i don’t care what you say about my English so if you have comments about that issue take it to another place.If you want to maybe tell me what I need to improve fine but don’t say i am stupid which is basically what u r saying tell me!!!I am sorry I ant as “WELL EDUCATED” as u all seem to b!!!!

britney on February 16, 2005 at 04:02 pm
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Britney, darling girl. Take it from someone who was raised in south Mississippi, your education is your job. Teachers give you the tools, you have to use them. Nobody here is picking on you, or making fun of you. We all want to help! What that teacher and that student did or did not do does not matter. People do what people do, ain’t no stopping them. What I am going to ask you to do, is the next time you go to Wal-Mart, or whichever large store is in you town, go to the area where the magazines and books are. Look for a Websters Desk Reference set, it will be 3 books in a box, about the size of a carton of icecream. Don’t be afraid to ask someone, that is what they are there for. Come here and practice on us, current events are an excellent teaching tool. Plenty of people here to correct and encourage you. Good luck.

2Hotel9 on February 16, 2005 at 05:02 pm
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Britney; Here’s a little advice. When you plant corn, you get corn.

If you don’t want people in a public forum to perceive you as being an uneducated, illiterate twerp who is not worth listening to or taking what you have to say seriously, then don’t write in a style that leaves people to perceive you in such light.

The best way to stop people like “cook” from indicting the entire Clarkrange alumni and community with his ridiculous generalization is to compose in traditional English verse, spelling and punctuation that is legible by the general populous.

I already think that you are a lot brighter and have more on the ball than the 14 year old that you purport yourself to be. Believe me. People tend to notice when someone writes and posts in a way that is worth reading.

catmet on February 16, 2005 at 05:02 pm
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Britney...I’m sorry I was rude.Honestly, I’m tired of all this talk about Pamela. She made one mistake that will haunt her for the rest of her life.

Cook on February 16, 2005 at 05:03 pm
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Britney,

Let me reiterate what 2H9 said.  You have shown a lot of spunk and tenacity for a fourteen year old.  Certainly more than I had at your age.

Don’t let the detractors get you down, challenge yourself to rise above and pursue a dream. 

Change the dream from time to time. 

Learn as much as you can about EVERYTHING, but especially communication (English in this case) and History.

The thing that sets this country apart from most others is our freedom to grow in any way we choose. 

I now return you to your regularly scheduled soap box...

Seth Yantiss on February 16, 2005 at 07:02 pm
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I do not get it. Britney seems to be like a lot of little girls that think they know what the world is all about. I mean how naive do you have to be to make a statement like I knew the type of person she was because she was my P.E. teacher.

The only thing I hope she learns how to spell is birth control and knows that being on Maury for your fourth paternity test is not a good thing.

richard on February 17, 2005 at 04:03 am
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SO, does posting a comment and checking off that box below stop all those “post reply” e-mails?

Bruce on February 17, 2005 at 05:02 am
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expand your vocabulary Britney.

Cook on February 17, 2005 at 05:02 am
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Pamala’s out of jail.She isn’t guilty!!
WHAOO!!! WHAOO!!

britney on March 11, 2005 at 07:04 pm
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As of wednesday, Pam was free on $50,000 bond.  Do you have new information Britney?  Please share—scoop the press!

Marty on March 11, 2005 at 09:04 pm
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Britney,

After reading your later posts in this thread, I went back and re-read your first post, which I had originally skimmed the first part of and then dismissed.  I have to admit that I still do not understand everything that you said, but I think the gist of your argument is that Pamela Rogers Turner could not be guilty because, one, she is a good person and a good friend who listened to you and your friends when you had problems, and, two, that she is an attractive and multi-talented woman who could have anyone she wanted whereas the thirteen year old boy is nothing to write home about.

I do not pretend to know whether she is guilty or not.  You are quite correct when you say that boys of that age are prone to lie about their sexual experience and she would not be the first teacher to be falsely accused of such a thing, but that is not proof.

Pedophiles and hebephiles (people who have a sexual attraction to adolescents) come in all shapes and sizes.  Some of them are creepy people that everyone is uncomfortable around and some are, in all other respects, perfectly normal.  These are people you have a problem that causes them to be attracted to under aged kids.  They do not turn to this because they cannot get dates their own age.  As for your assertion that she was a good friend and listened when you and your friends had problems, this does not surprise me.  If the accusations are false, this means that Ms Turner is a good teacher who cares about her students and can relate well to young people.  If the accusations are true, this means that Ms Turner is a good teacher who cares about her students, can relate well to young people, and is sexually attracted to young boys.  Many pedophiles and hebephiles are very good at relating to young people and gravitate towards jobs working with them.  This is not always because they are seeking sexual relationships and sometimes they work with young people for years or even their entire lives without ever acting on their sexual urges.  Others do not last nearly so long.

There is no standard type of woman who is attracted to underage boys just as there is no standard type of man who is attracted to underage girls.  The fact that you and many others in your community think highly of Ms Turner speaks well of her, but it is not proof that she is innocent, and it does not even necessarily suggest that she is innocent.

In closing, I would like to say to you that I thought some of the comments you made on this web site were interesting, but I, like many others here, would have passed over your comments without giving them a thought because of the way they were presented.  I have seen several instances in my life of talented and intelligent people who lost opportunities or whose careers fizzled because they lacked the ability to communicate their ideas well.  This is part of the reason that the SAT now has an essay portion.  Some day you may have one chance to attract the interest of a supervisor, prospective employer, or client and it won’t matter at all how good your ideas are if your initial presentation turns them off.

Learn who to speak and how to write well and forget whether or not it is fair of others to judge you based on these things.

Fatherzen on March 27, 2005 at 01:03 pm
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she can suck my dick

Joseph on August 11, 2005 at 12:09 pm
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She’s totally HOT! Lets handle things on a case by case basis. Everyone who has had a hot teadher has wanted to sleep with her. Good for him.

I know she can’t sell her story but I’d sure like to get it. If anyone knows the address for the jail, let us know. We’ll try to do a photo shoot or something. Hell… she can work for us.

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REVEAL Magazine on August 12, 2005 at 02:09 pm
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[...] Aparently some chick named Pamela Turner did the same thing.... Actually seven teachers so far this year… Man, wtf were these whores when I was a kid? Oh wait, they were my age… http://sayanythingblog.com/2005/02/08/this-makes-seven/ Hot too… BAM! WTF?  -Jake [...]

Newfoundland Motor Sports Forums on November 25, 2005 at 05:11 am
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[...] Continuing the discussion… TrackBack URL for this entry:http://wizbangblog.com/cgi-bin/track.cgi/5030 Listed below are links to weblogs that reference ‘News Quiz’ from Wizbang.  If she had waited a bit, it might have been legal Excerpt: Two cases of a grown woman and a young boy having sex. In the US, she faces 100 years in prison. In Canada, where marriage is undergoing a radical redefinition, people are wondering about how long it will be before what she did might be considered ... Weblog: Angry in the Great White North Tracked: February 8, 2005 08:45 PM White Trash Wednesday: Debra Lafave redux Excerpt: Crazy? Yeah, crazy hot! Weblog: Six Meat Buffet Tracked: February 9, 2005 08:47 AM This Makes Seven Excerpt: The arrest of this woman makes no less than seven teachers who have been caught having sex with their students since the beginning of this year. WKRN - A Warren County elementary teacher faces a maximum 100 years in prison if she’s convicted of ... Weblog: Say Anything Tracked: February 9, 2005 08:19 PM Gym Teacher Pamela Joan Rogers Turner, 27, Arrested For Having Sex With 13-Year-Old Boy [Pics] Excerpt: I just can’t understand these women. They must be legitimately crazy because for the majority of these molesting teachers they are in pretty good shape and are—in some cases—very good looking. On top of that they… Weblog: Diggers Realm Tracked: February 10, 2005 07:52 AM [...]

Wizbang: Discussion on News Quiz on December 25, 2005 at 08:13 am
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The last posting was in August?....geeze....you guys are a fickle buch aren’t ya’?
For one thing I have been writing Pam while she does her jail time. And my motives were typical guy sexual attraction motives. I live in East Tennessee so I offered to take her out on a date when she gets out if she was interested. I am very attractive guy and I gravitate toward hot slutty type women basicaly who like to party naked. Because basicaly I’m just out for a good time.
After several letters I’m backing off Pamela because she is to nice for me. She is not the sultry seductive, sex kitten ditzy blond abnormal pedaphile child molester that the media has made her out to be. Hey I’m not going to pretend what really happened between her and little Jack horney ok?......maybe something happened maybe not....but I’m here to tell ya’.....this woman is a quality woman......she’s kind, creative, sincere, highly intelligent and sensitive....not the menace to society that everyone is blathering about.
She’s so kind and classy hell I don’t even know how to deal with her I’ve not recipricated with a woman of this quality in years. If I’m going to be her friend I’m going to have to raise my standards.
Now why would I raise my standards for a rapist? Or a pediphile, or a terror to society?
I mean seriously people.....think about it....if a good time Charlie like me can see there’s something wrong here....theres no excuse for you assholes. So wake up. Don’t give this woman jailtime, give her a better investigation of her case, and give her her life back.

Brian King on January 12, 2006 at 11:02 am
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I attached my name to my comment because I’m not a covert pussey Andrew....what is so hard to fathom about that?

Brian King on January 12, 2006 at 12:01 pm
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Oh and by the way, in case your wondering about all these hot teachers going after men not even old enough to drive yet. Its a simple matter of physics people. These women crave the passion, excitement and pleasure of having sexual contact with men in peak condition. Its really that basic that simple. And these women are going for it. I love the sexual initiative these attractive women are exhibiting its debunking all the old myths about women being less sexual than men. I freakin’ love it.
I should know the hot sexy women that date me could care less about the shitty car I drive, or the flashy friends and fancy lifestyle I don’t have. So what....I’m wealthy where it really counts. Women date me for my looks, my body, my personality, my brains, my charm and to have a great time and for great sex.
Casts a little different light on what we thought women really valued eh guys? And this runaway train rash of older women younger men thing is going to force our male dominated society to change its perspective of female sexuality. I just hope that not to many casualties of otherwise good women being thrown in jail for their spirits to rot results from it. But so far it has. Not good.
Women are finaly coming out of their shells and opening up sexualy and we destroy thier lives for it. I don’t like the message that is sending to women in general of our society. When a woman over 18 has sex with a teenager she’s not having sex with a child but with a young man....so that doesn’t make her a pedophile, nor does the fact that she craves great sex and acts on the impulse in a non-invasive way make her a rapist. But we are labeling them that arent we? Why does everyone feel so threatened? Trust me.....teenage boys eat this sort of thing like candy....and feeling threatened or violated is the furthest thing from their highly sexualy charged minds.
I’m all for protecting children, but lets not cut our foot off to get rid of our ingrown toenail. These women are causing no harm with their sexual explorations, ( ever wonder why they are receiving such light sentances?). If they were causing such “wreckage” and disruption, like men do when they act upon their more aggressive, destructive impulses and natures when commiting violent ugly sexual acts ( true rape) these women would be dealt with accordingly...tossed in jail and the key thrown away. But women are not men, and are not to be feared in the same capacity by any stretch. So lets aknowledge that and stop approaching this from such an anal retentive colloaquial standpoint of warped narrow sexual sensibilities based on fear and ignorance ok?

Brian King on January 12, 2006 at 12:02 pm
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I can’t believe you attached your name to that comment.

Andrew on January 12, 2006 at 12:02 pm
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” All be back”

Brian King on January 12, 2006 at 01:01 pm
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I take my comment back, Brian.  What I really ment was that you’ve got class.

Andrew on January 12, 2006 at 02:01 pm
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Ok ‘Drew I’ll give you that one:::::::: laughing::::::::
I’ll work on it.
Being bold, outspoken and a free thinker has its downsides. People like that tend to attract idiots. With idiot clueless opinions about you.
But your right I’ll work on my rough around the edges persona. After all I’m a Tennessee’n I should be more of a gentleman (southern) I’m setting a bad example.

Brian King on January 12, 2006 at 02:02 pm
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Brian you just made my day—Andrew Dice Clay would be proud!

Marty on January 12, 2006 at 03:01 pm
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Brian? Just how old are you?

2Hotel9 on January 12, 2006 at 03:02 pm
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Thanks Marty.....glad I could brighten up someone’s day.

Yo Hotel-9.....trust me I’m of age....did my comments sound like those of a snot-nose teen to you? I mean seriously.
So you can relax and call off the Gestapo, or the swat team.....or whatever wrench to throw in my motor you had in mind.
But then again....if you were just being inquisitive...cool..more power to it..I’m over 18...thats all that matters here isn’t it.

Brian King on January 12, 2006 at 04:01 pm
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No, that was not actually my intent. I know plenty of guys that think like you. They just don’t think it a good idea to trawl through the local junior highschool. This woman has some issues, you should consider that, at length, before entangling yourself with her.

2Hotel9 on January 12, 2006 at 05:01 pm
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Hello guys,
Its britney again here! well I ant talked to pan lately but i know her dad well he is a great man as well as she is a wonderful woman! I mean you could look up to him as much as you could her! oh and as all of you are wondering I do look up to pam! no matter what you guys might think!......she is one of the most unique people you will run across and she comes from a great family!!!well...thats all for now....much love cya!!!

britney on January 12, 2006 at 06:01 pm
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Your a nice guy Hotel.
And you made some good points, but worry about Pam becoming entagled with me:::::::LAUGH::::::
Naw seriously what we have is casual she could use all the new friendship she can get, she’s a woman of intelligence and depth I’m not going to regard her like the slutty bimbo’s I usualy date. Pam is true blue and has my highest respect....look what she’s been through and survived I mean hell that would have emotionaly destroyed a lesser woman. She inspires me.
By the way is that you in the picture?.....cool....howdy!! smile

Brian King on January 12, 2006 at 06:01 pm
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Hey Britney!!!.....hey, want me to give Pam any messages from you in my next letter to her?.....I’m sure she’d be absolutely tickled to hear from you. Let me know. Email me if you like....you too
you guys are welcome by my campfire anytime

Pam would be impressed with my meeting someone she knows online....I’ll mention you to her Britney

Brian King on January 12, 2006 at 06:02 pm
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Hey Hotel.... Pam probably does have issues bro....I can see it in her letters.....but don’t we all? To one degree or the other? Trust me....her issues are not that profound.
At first I just liked her for her looks and the intrigue of what she’s accused of. But now I’ve fallen for her intelligence and large heartedness. You have no diarrhea how sick I am of dating women with 40 double D’s and zero IQ’s. So self absorbed over their physical attractiveness they can hardly think straight or socialy function.
Pam was a school teacher for crying out loud, and her love of people, of all walks of life, and of her proffession are touching. Its difficult for me to fear a woman like this. I don’t care if she transformed into a werewolf when the moon is full. She’s great gal. Nobody can take that away.
I think most of the negative comments about her are jealousy based because she’s beautiful and outgoing. You know how that goes. Beauty and vivaciousness can be a curse if your caught in the wrong circle of people or circumstances.

Brian King on January 12, 2006 at 07:01 pm
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Hey,
Well sure pass along to pam that Its britney still not giving up on her she is so great and nothing will bring her down and this will only make her a better person and in the end only god can judge her and tell her much love and stay good!!! also tell her aaron my brother says hello too!!!
much thanks cya!!

britney on January 13, 2006 at 09:01 pm
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Britney!!! Whats up?.....guess what.....Pam will be out soon.....days now.....I passed her your message......haven’t heard back from her yet.....should be soon.....I’m going to post a comment when she gets out be sure to read it!!!

Brian on February 21, 2006 at 09:53 am
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Well, I live in Warren County. My sister goes to that school, and I used to go. Damn, I wish she would have been there when I was there. Had I just been there one more year…

The boy that she supposedly had an affair with isn’t very attractive at all in my opinion. Then again, I’m a guy, so…

Kluender on March 1, 2006 at 02:07 pm
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Hey everbody, do you all like apples?
I’m a male model, live in East Tennessee, not far from where Pam lives, ‘bout 2 hours away. I’ve been writing her letters for the duration of her short prison sentance. Gotten to know her pretty good. Is she guilty as charged? Well, I never really gave a red rats ass, hey she’s beautiful, intelligent and single. Thats all the reason I need to ask her out on a date. And she’s actualy considering my offer. All the media and legal hype about her is just background noise to me. I don’t know what the big fuss was all about she’s just a woman for crying out loud. Everyone acts as tho’ she fell from outer space. Whats up with that.Why was this thing with her case so blown out of proportion and hyped up way outta’ control? Our society is so hungry for a new slant of sex gossip that they will trample all over themselves to get to it. Pathetic. I’m not concerned with trusting her.....I worry about you people, you know, the giant collective pervert known as the general public. If the American general public were one person, I wouldn’t trust him alone with a one-eyed-purple-people-eater in a pink-polka-dot-bikini. So excuse the hell out of me if I see this woman in a nuetral light free from all the crazy opinions and charges railed against her. The bottom line is......I’ve gotten to know her pretty close, and she’s about as respectful, kind, sincere and normal a woman as I’ve ever met. Beleive me, I’ve dated enough wacko women and sex crazed nut-bags to know one when I see one. Pam ain’t it. So all you out there in hype land who thought they had a sleezy story to masterbate over.... Read it and weep. Looks like you’ll have to turn your prurient attentions elswhere.
Pam is now free, free to go and free from all you.
How do you like them apples?

Brian on March 3, 2006 at 08:45 am
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I just don’t understand how anyone would or could uphold the school teacher’s actions with a child.  It doesn’t matter that she is pretty or hot. She is an adult that should know better that having sex with a child. I am 33 years old and I have an 11 year old son. I just can’t imagine what a grown woman would possibly want in a little boy.  I really have a hard time understanding anyone that defends her actions.  It is so sad to me that this just keeps on happening. 

Sonya

Sonya on May 2, 2006 at 09:57 am
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Well Sonya...your son is 11....just a child....Pam’s lover was 13, and physicaly mature for his age, he was a young man...beleive me thats what she went for....she would not be interested in your shrimpy, boyish little 11 year old....youv’e got it all wrong....I was already 6 feet tall and built like a little locomotive at 13, with a sex drive to match, and housewives chased me all the time for sex when I’d mow their yards or deliver the newspaper....thats kind’a how it works.....no woman in her right mind would be interested in me at 11....and none where....but when my hormones hit and I become manly....that changed things....get what I’m saying here?

anyway....your right regardless her actions were bizzare....and I don’t defend them....there was no excuse for her she could have had any man over 20 she wanted......she’s toast.....

Brian on May 2, 2006 at 10:52 pm
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